A Sad Reality…..

 

mikeB left this comment on Avenell Road last night, it was later in the evening and most of us had gone. The comment deserves more than to be lost on a days before post,  it deserves debate, so here it is today…….

It is a sad reality of our media dominated game that we will never function as a successful national team until we take away the fear.
We see it with the players. Household names that are revered the world over fail to live up to club form… why? Because they play with fear.

A manager with the noblest record starts his England career with freedom and verve. Two years later he is so frightened that he leaves behind his most gifted impact player, and instead plays the same tried and tested format that his failed predecessor used… why? Because he was scared to do anything else.

Success for England is sadly unattainable in our current frenetic, Z-list celebrity crazed, and media dominated game. This has been true since the 1970 World Cup, when a media feeding-frenzy took the England Captain, one of the finest and most decent men ever to grace the game, and accused him of being a shoplifter.

Ever since then the media has been digging up dirt, besmirching reputations, and generally interfering in the psychological well-being of our national team and its many coaches.

I am not asking our trusted guardians of the ‘fourth estate’ not to do their jobs. What I am asking for is that they do their jobs responsibly. Until we take away the fickle interference of the British tabloid press, and the capricious and vested interests of other media outlets (Sky Sports take a bow) England will continue to fail, because they are too terrified to do anything else.

The inconsistency of a venomous media is quite shocking. England’s hero, from the qualifiers, suddenly became an untalented spoilt brat; unable to run with the ball, unable to cross a ball, unable to create space, and without an iota of ‘footballing brain’. According to the suddenly hate-filled tabloids, he was a man doing nothing for our great England cause; and why…? Because certain vacuous individuals, with axes to grind, and vested interests in their own self-promotion, were given platforms in the tabloid press, and told us it was so. For an already fragile England team it was cancerous, mendacious, and debilitating.

Great players don’t become bad players overnight. A great manager doesn’t become a poor manager overnight. Not unless they are hounded by the press until they are afraid to function.

That is what we saw against Germany… A team of fine individual players, led by a great manager, unable to pass, unable to shoot, unable to cross a ball, unable to express themselves, unable to make decisions, unable to function, unable to win… and why…? Because they were too terrified of failure.

This isn’t just about Theo Walcott; he is merely a symptom of a greater and more malignant disease, but if he and Jack Wilshere and co. go on to play for the national team they will fail too… The so-called pundits, and the rest of the rabid media in this country, with their vacuous opinions and feast and famine approach to football, won’t allow them to do anything else… Not if there’s a headline to write, and a quick buck to be made.

Written by mikeB

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183 Responses to A Sad Reality…..

  1. rico says:

    jaygooner said
    2010/06/28 at 2:02 am

    MikeB wow! you are so spot on with that! The media, disgustingly British media, dig the dirt, plant the poison, turn the fans and create hate. Remember Donkey Adams? That was awful but us gooners turned it and Donkey won the Derby when we beat the spuds was a song that still resonates. They perpetuated and encouraged the vile campaign against Sol, ermm he is footballer what does it matter about his sexuality, and he is getting married soon, the disgusting stuff that Wenger suffers, particularly at Old Trampford, the media encourage and whip it up. Why? my best guess is that that the hacks and presenters all wanted to play for the best team, in the world, got a trial and were told YOUR SHIT AND YOU KNOW YOU ARE HAHAHa. Ermmm thats my rant God i hate ill informed hacks and journos.

  2. rico says:

    Morning everyone…

    Thank you mikeB for allowing the above to be posted, its a top top comment.

    The main topic in the cruel media this morning is asking for the head of Capello. No doubt he will leave, the FA pay out more compensation and England place Hodgson into the next firing line.

    WHY??

    Stick with Capello, sort the media out and let footballers do what they get paid to do…

  3. W.A.T.H says:

    In all honesty Rico as good a comment as MikeB’s is… the saddest reality is that we are pretty crap…! No technique no passion and no idea….! We are miles behind the rest and yet we try play a game that doesnt suit the players and we made to look even worse but the problems are exposed over and over when certain players think they 50 times better than what they are helped laregly by media hype as well.

  4. rico says:

    Morning WATH,

    Hows sunny SA 🙂

    We were awful, but why?? Week in week out the same players play their hearts out for their clubs, but when it comes to wearing the shirt of their country they morf into Blue Circle players…

  5. rico says:

    I wonder if every other nation has the kind of media attack that we do in England??

  6. W.A.T.H says:

    Thing is Rico do these players play their hearts out week in week out…? overhyped prima donna’s sure the media now get to bomb them out but average players made out 2b something they not and the vast majority fall for it time and again. We average end of….!.

    Sunny SA, yep it’s great…. Just very cold when that sun vanishes…! 😛

  7. rico says:

    WATH I guess what i mean is, they put a shift in for their club but not country…

    But then, having watched some of our arsenal players especially Eboue & Song, they are proud to wear the shirt, proud to play for their country and play with heart….

    The only good thing is most of the players in this campaign for england will not be in the next world cup, in fact if i were Capello, I wouldn’t pick them again, follow the German set up and start playing a few younger ones now..

  8. K-TR7 says:

    Morning all.the media is a cancer to the english side.rooney for all his hype has never scored in a wc game but the media let everyone believe he was better than messi and cr9.james said shrek was banging ’em in in training but that was just a preview of how poor the defence was going to perform.3 shots on target is pathetic for a supposedly wc player.

  9. rico says:

    Its 30% + here WATH 🙂

  10. rico says:

    Morning ktr7,

    Dire wasn’t it, just dreadful….

  11. W.A.T.H says:

    Just u watch those puppies of mine Rico I don’t want em all burnt when I get back 😉

    Hmmm i hear what your saying Rico but then again is that now part of the “money” game that they actually can’t be bothered anymore..?????????????

  12. rico says:

    Spot on WATH, then thats where it must begin – cap the salary….

    They are kept in the shade thank you WATH, no chance of burning 🙂

  13. rico says:

    Why do people want Capello sacked???

  14. W.A.T.H says:

    Capello sacked cos he the manager Rico, knee jerk is to blame the manager and yep to a degree it’s right as he picked the squad and the team yet the players didn’t play…! They don’t deserve the support they get. Anyway enuff of England it’s over as usual let’s now concentrate on Arsenal and fingers crossed our players left come home uninjured YES Robin that menas you…!

  15. K-TR7 says:

    Another fact rico is that england don’t possess that special player.the germans had özil who tore england a new one.i said before the game that if capello insists on playing a 4-4-2 england will get destroyed by 4-2-3-1 of the germans.ozil played in between the defence and midfield of england which was disjointed.since barry went awol terry had to step up to mark özil which proved suicidal.the first goal from the gk barry was non-existent which forced terry to stepup but he missed the ball leaving acres of space from which klose scored.in the second klose and özil pulled terry and upson out of position leaving müller and podolski with only johnson in between them.in the third,barry lost the ball leading to a counter.ozil made a decoy run through the middle taking two defenders with him.in the fourth özil nutmegged cole for an assist for müller’s second…what i’m saying england don’t have such a player due their insistence on athleticism over skill in the grassroots level.stan collymore praised aw’s philosophy last night since aw may prove to be the english saviour when the likes of wilshere start playing spainesque footy.will aw be appreciated?…but he can’t do it alone.

  16. rico says:

    But that speads beyone England too WATH, grrrrr

    I just think he’s a top manager, but regardless of how good he is, the players didn’t turn up for him, they are to blame 🙂

    Ok, now to Arsenal, lets sack the manager coz we are shite 🙂 🙂

  17. rico says:

    KTR7, i actually didn’t think Ozil was exceptional, moreso i think you were right in saying he lacks stamina, yes he was affective but he was in and out of the game….

    maybe he just did all he needed to…

  18. K-TR7 says:

    Its also quite amazing how tactically static england is.Mourinho criticized the english saying most players can only play in one position in a 4-4-2 which is very static and less fluid.England needs a complete overhaul from the grassroot level.for most part of the decade the germans played Boltonesque decade but after wc02 they decided to overhaul the team leading to them flopping at euro04 but look at them now?5 players from the german team yesterday were graduates from the u-21 team that destroyed England 4 nil when özil scored one and created two.löew trusted the youth and had the balls to drop household names such as frings,kuranyi,metzelder…who had poor seasons for their clubs.

  19. drew10 says:

    I don’t think the media had anything to do with the decision to bring on Heskey and not play one of Englands most prolific scorers in recent history at all in the competition.

    Rooney was obviously shite for whatever reason but the vague hope that the golden boy would suddenly come good was foolhardy at best.

    Ian Wright can wax lyrical all he wants about Shaun but the fact is he isn’t in the same class as Theo, nor is Lennon for that fact. Neither of them had the defences sitting deeper like Theo would have done.

    Playing Gerard on the left wing? Cole not getting on ahead of the two muppets listed above?

    Yes the players played way below par but these decisions are what the manager gets paid for and whether it was media driven or some other reason he got them wrong!

    I agree that the media do spout shite all the time especially in the run up to a tournament but this argument just gives the players and manager an excuse to be rubbish. They are playing for England for Gods sakes they should forget the media and think of the fans, once they put that shirt on. Lampard may have scored (sort of) and hit the bar yesterday but his overall performances for England are woeful. Drop him put Gerard in the centre where he plays best and build the team around him!

    One thing is for sure Beckham would have been embarrassed to watch that and I for one wish he had been playing, one player that never gave anything other than 100% for his country.

  20. rico says:

    Maybe some good will come from it all then KTR7, i would certainly get rid of a few now and start to rebuild…

  21. drew10 says:

    Rico, who do you think should go? I have my thoughts what about you?

  22. Erick says:

    Sailor whats up hope your good mate sorry about England Rico Dear hope you still simple 🙂 Mr. K-tr7 Niaje mambo aje hapo uko poa sio 🙂 Ozil did what he had to do but the kid is talented Gerrard and Lampard in midfield never work Capello should have know that but hats off to Mike B spot on re the media they have to know their boundary 🙂

  23. Red Arse says:

    Hi Rico, Hi Guys,

    Love that MikeB post! Absolutely spot on, and so well and lucidly written.

    The British “gutter” press are well named and are responsible for how other parts of the world see us. Remember Jaygooner’s comment yesterday?

    There was a very intelligent German journalist interviewed this morning. He spoke perfect English, of course, and he did not gloat or show off, but rwo interesting statistics he threw up were;

    A) Rooney, Lampard and Terry earn more than the entire Germany team! Wow. and

    B) the average number of games played by the England squad was 46 in the season and the average for the Germany squad was 51. What?

    A sounds like it could be club before country? Maybe?
    B dispels the myth we play too much football.

    Both MikeB and the German journalist have very interesting angles on the debacle.

  24. rico says:

    Hi Drew,

    Heskey shouldn’t have been on the plane imho

    As for playing Upson or Carragher over Dawson smacks of silliness in my book..

    Like you, Beckham for me was a model pro when it came to playing for his country, he still is. He takes a lot of stick, but he can never be questioned over his attitude when wearing the shirt of the three lions…

  25. rico says:

    Drew, I think its easier to ask who would stay…. 😉

    Dawson, Milner, Hart and Ashley Cole..

  26. K-TR7 says:

    Adam johnson should’ve gone to the wc rico.Capello started well by picking form players but eventually crumbled.johnson starts for city but capello took swp his sub which says it all really.Theo may have his faults but barca,milan,lpool and croatia games prove that he can have an impact that few can.

  27. attafuah says:

    I cannot believe people expected more from this England side!! Listen from the word go, they were destined to fail .why? simple answer is they do not possess the skill to play modern football..ie hold pass and move, triangles etc.MikeB’s analysis is spot on , and until the FA realise what is wrong with football in England, results like these will be frequent. I played non-league/semi-pro football, and u will not believe the amount of racism and favouritism in the game at that level. A foreigner will be ten times better than an english player yet he will be benched , but the thing is all the players know their quality in training and instead of managers playing to encourage young English players to learn from them, they look at passports and hence give these young naive english players a false sense that they are better players. The problem lies deep at the grassroots. Can anyone name me a new generation of England players to take over this failed golden generation?

  28. rico says:

    Morning Erick and RA..

    RA, The wages bill will soon change after this world cup, few of those German players will be off to pastures new and give hefty contracts…

    Amazing that the German players played more games than in the English…

  29. drew10 says:

    Rico,

    If I were the manager now my list of players that would go are:

    Wright-philips – usless
    Johnson – His positioning was so bad yesterday he was out of position on every goal. And when Germany broke for their last goal he just jogged back and watched.
    King – Please tell me the point in taking someone who can hardly walk?
    James/Green – James had a good tournament but now select Hart as number 1 and stick by him.
    Heskey – If anyone in the world thinks this guy has ever been good enough for international football they are just mad!
    Terry – He is past it, always getting sucked under the ball and wont make it to another tournament.

    I agree Dawson should have got the nod he and Jagielka should be the new defensive pairing IMO.

    Clear out this load of rubbish, the golden generation have proved to be the brown generation!

  30. rico says:

    Thats what i meant ktr7, so many of those who Capello took i wouldn’t have. BUT, to do that he would have to leave out others, then it would have been back to the media who would slate him..

    Barry should not have gone, On form, Rooney should not have gone… Imagine that eh??

  31. Red Arse says:

    Rico

    I don’t know that the stats were right, or not, but he seemed pretty sure.

    I read your excellent posts last night and it seems that we think alike. Yours were better written!

    Go to go on my hot date now, fingers crossed! 🙂

  32. Erick says:

    Wow RA interesting stats there but despite the officiating Germany were superior their counters were spot on and had a very solid defence

  33. rico says:

    I think Cahill will burst onto the scene this season drew, and hopefully in an Arsenal shirt…

    Cahill , Jags and Dawson and maybe even Richards – thats four good defenders to build on…

  34. shedzy says:

    we were not good enough to win the WC, but we should have been good enough to top our group, therefore getting a far easier (not EASY, but easIER!) route to a semi with either the Dutch of Brazilians, who’d have murdered us.

    HOWEVER, I totally agree with the post and have been saying it for years – when we play in tournaments we are shitting ourselves in case we play badly, and, therefore, we don’t play at all – hence ‘no chance of winning’ became ‘no chance of looking half-decent’.

  35. rico says:

    RA, thanks but i think you are wrong in your assesment of mine 😉 😉

    Hope all goes well today 🙂

  36. rico says:

    Erick, you are spot on, germany wanted to win, it seemed England wanted to go home…..

  37. Red Arse says:

    Erick

    You are right. It wasn’t just that game. England were poor thru out the Group stage.

    Lampard and Gerrard have never worked together, why do different England mangers persevere? Germany look an excellent blend of youth and skill BUT they also play as a team for each other!

  38. Erick says:

    Hot date 🙂 RA

  39. rico says:

    hi shedzy, england should have won their group easily, they have only themselves to blame….

  40. Red Arse says:

    Erick, not a date I want to go on! 🙂

    Hope to chat tomorrow.

    (Good to see the alpha male known as W is back on the scene) 😉

  41. rico says:

    See you tomorrow RA, that’s if your not out running a marathon 😉

  42. mikeB says:

    Thanks for the comments guys. I appreciate them. And as you all seem like a creative bunch, how about trying this…?

    There is a book that is considered an industry bible for screenwriters… especially in Hollywood. I would recommend it for anyone thinking of writing a screenplay or novel. It is called The Writers Journey, and was written by a guy called Christopher Vogler.

    In it the author describes how plots and characters are developed, in just about every successful film and in just about every successful story ever told. They each follow a pattern that is repeated time and time again… see where I’m going?

    I believe there is a similar set of circumstances and similarly motivated characters in every England coaching appointment. That is why we, on the other hand, fail.

    For anyone who hasn’t read or heard about the book, let me start you off…
    Heroes are introduced in the ORDINARY WORLD, where they receive their CALL TO ADVENTURE. They are reluctant at first and REFUSE THE CALL, but are encouraged by a MEETING WITH THE MENTOR to CROSS THE FIRST THRESHOLD and enter the Special World where they encounter TESTS, ALLIES, AND ENEMIES. They APPROACH THE INMOST CAVE by crossing a SECOND THRESHOLD, where they endure the ORDEAL. They take possession of their REWARD and are pursued on THE ROAD BACK to the Ordinary World. They cross the THIRD THRESHOLD, experience a RESSURECTION and are transformed by the experience. They RETURN WITH THE ELIXIR, which is a lesson or treasure to benefit the Ordinary World.

    So that’s a rough chronology, and here we have our set of characters…

    The Hero… Let’s call him Capello, or Venables, or Hoddle, or even Keegan. We know they won’t succeed, nobody ever does in our story, but how they fail is riveting stuff… this could run for ever.

    Threshold Guardians… the establishment, the F.A. The same people who made sure Alf Ramsey died a slow and painful death. The same people who refused to appoint Clough and Taylor when England so desperately needed them. The same people who prevent anyone with character and ability from achieving. These are not necessarily evil people, just misguided and self-important.

    The Shapeshifters… The Sun and The Mirror and the Star. These are mercurial and capricious creatures who constantly change and like to cause mischief. They are also often the Villains.

    Shadows… The evil and dark side… Let’s call him Waddle.

    The Mentor… The individual who convinces the Hero to cross the threshold and embark on the journey…. For a playing Hero it could be an Arsene Wenger. For our Manager Hero it could be the outgoing manager, or a club president… you decide.

    The problem with our story is that the Shapeshifters and Villains and Shadows are always too strong, and we get the chronology wrong… consequently our Heroes take possession of their reward before they endure the ordeal… and it is here that our story always ends.

    How would you write a better one?

  43. rico says:

    Hi mikeB, thank you for post, and agreeing for it to be used..

    Did you ever watch Lost?

  44. mikeB says:

    Hi Rico,
    my pleasure; and no… I’m already there.

    Have a good one

  45. Red Arse says:

    MikeB

    You caught me going out the door, but I had to reply.

    What a well structured, literate piece of work. 🙂

    I think I am instantly going to join the Dark Side, that way I can never be wrong and will always win. 😉

    Really, really going now.

  46. K-TR7 says:

    Morning erick…

  47. Erick says:

    Have just read Joe Cole interview and I have this feeling the spuds have a great chance to land him but don’t quote me 🙂

  48. Nedu says:

    Hehe..the problem to england is shrek! I tot he was supposed to be the goal getter? What was he doing all over the pitch yesterday? He only succeeded in getting in the way of lampard and stevie g. Messi plays a free role but thats cos he can beat 2-3 players wit the ball! Rooney cant do that and he certainly isn’t world class! Morning all.

  49. Erick says:

    Howdy K-tr7 so what you have instore for me today 🙂 Mike B I need help with understanding that piece 🙂

  50. Erick says:

    Nedu am starting to dislike Messi despite his talent he is world class

  51. Erick says:

    He dives alot 😦

  52. K-TR7 says:

    I don’t think a lack of quality is England’s problem. Our eyes have not been lying to us all these years that Gerrard, Lampard, Rooney (and others) have succeeded in the Premier League and the Champions League. And I don’t think a lack of effort has hampered them either. Beating Germany remains a holy grail for English footballers. Pundits rarely impart valuable insight, but their habit of questioning effort and commitment irks me. These are professionals playing on the highest, most exalted stage in the sport, the world even. Of course they’re playing 100%!

    Rather, England’s gross underachievement – of the last 6 years, at least, must be tied to tactical failings. It’s been clear for ages that playing Lampard and Gerrard together optimizes the abilities of neither. As primarily attacking midfielders, they perform similar functions. However you deploy them, whichever player is out of position will drift to the middle and congest the pitch because he’s programmed to play a more central role. The Netherlands suffer from this too. Part of why they haven’t entertained as much as we’re used to at this tournament is that Sneijder and Van der Vaart have played together for long swaths of games. Even though Bert van Marwijk stations VdV on the left, he instinctively drifts into Sneijder’s space in the center. Moreoever, you’ll notice he almost never takes on a defender to get to the byline and put in a cross. He’s not a winger. Eljero Elia is, and it’s not a surprise that the Dutch threaten more with him on the pitch.

    I wish you’d put a screen shot of England in possession against Germany. They were woeful – narrow, predictable and cramped. Reminiscent of Spain against Switzerland but with a fraction of the technical quality. That’s what you get when you play 4 central midfielders together, all 4 somewhat out of position. As remote as their attacking successes throughout the tournament were, I don’t think it was a coincidence that both of their goals came from crosses. Natural width is something almost every team needs and England have lacked for years. This chronic logjam has made them significantly less potent when in possession because opponents know what’s coming. Real wingers keep defenders honest because they don’t know where the point of attack will be. Width allows options for the team with the ball. What’s even stranger about this is that England actually have wingers. Not one of Ashley Young, Gabriel Agbonlahor, Adam Johnson or David Bentley made the squad. Of course, we should acknowledge that a) you can raise legitimate questions about the quality of all of the aforementioned players, and b) not one of Lennon, SWP or Joe Cole performed – despite getting decent amounts time on the pitch. But England are crying out for width and I’m sure some combination of those 7 (8 if you count Walcott) could have helped their play tremendously. Would England not be dangerous with 2 of those players in a 4-2-3-1 behind Rooney and alongside a defensively unencumbered Lampard or Gerrard? Or a 4-2-1-3 alongside Rooney to give him service from the flanks and in front of a defensively unencumbered Lampard or Gerrard? Carrick, a healthy Hargreaves, Milner and Barry are the obvious choices for the holding position. What do you think, ZM?

    If Greece can win the Euros, England can reach the last four of a major tournament.

  53. K-TR7 says:

    Arsenal boss Arsene Wenger reckons Diego Maradona and Lionel Messi can inspire Argentina to World Cup glory.

    Argentina are into the quarterfinals against Germany after victory over Mexico.

    Arsenal boss Wenger said: “Maradona’s charisma and love he has for his country is a really big advantage for Argentina.

    “Then, of course, they have a world star in Messi, a player who can deliver something special at any mome

  54. mikeB says:

    Hi K-TR7,
    Used to love those cars.
    I agree entirely, and if it comes down to tactics you’re our guy. Why did Wenger, at the outset say that England would start with just one up-front? Because he’s a top class manager and a top-class tactician. But then, so is Capello.
    Tactics are just a symptom of the disease.
    If we ever want a manager to succeed we have to create an environment within which they can succeed… at the moment we don’t have one.

  55. Erick says:

    K-tr7 wow wow nice analysis so Capello is to blame for all this 🙂

  56. rico says:

    Its all down to the players, lack of guts, spirit and attitude, they think they are so so special, maybe a seaon or two ago they were, but now for me they are over rated, over the hill old has beens 😉 😉

    Much rather watch the young players at our club 😉 😉

  57. rico says:

    Guys and Gals, have to pop out for a bit, see you in an hour or so…..

  58. K-TR7 says:

    England played inaffective football throughout the wc and it was a shame. Has anyone noticed that the most experienced managers at the wc – Otto Rehagel, Radomir Antic, Marcelo Lippi, Fabio Capello have all stuck to some old school football tactics that have not worked at all! and neither managers had a plan B but stuck to some fairly mediocore tactics compared to the new wave of talented modern day football coaches such as Low, Bradly and co.

    These old school managers should have a good look at themselves and plan properly for a tournament such as the wc!

    As for England i dont see a bright future at all but im hoping they clean out this team and give youth a go. The English youth teams have been producing some very good results and they should be pushed into the first team.And those who blame the foreigners;If the players were that talented the foreigners would not be pushing them out. That foreigners are in a position to come to a cold and wet island to ply their trade in huge numbers is evidence enough that the locals aren’t much good.

  59. K-TR7 says:

    Couple of observations.

    1. If England buy in a super-coach from Italy (which we they done twice now), we should not be surprised that the England job will attract an Anglophile who’s admiration for our strengths clouds his judgment of our weaknesses. Both Sven and Fabio were 4-4-2 men who believed English heart and running would turn us into world beaters. The FA needs to do its homework better.

    2. There have been attempts to update England’s tactics in the past all of which have come to naught. Vennables was essentially sacked. Hoddle was shafted. In the late 1990’s I recall Howard Wilkinson arguing the future lay with 4-3-3, one where the wide forwards dropped into midfield when defending and supported the striker when attacking. He even implemented the system with every young England side from youth to U-21 level (He had his famous falling out with the media and Hoddle friendly Peter Taylor who wanted to stick with 3-5-2). Wilkinson was derided for it because “nobody played like that at the time”. Ten years on, Wilkinson should be lauded for his visionary insight into the future, but nobody in the press wants to give him his due because he’s yesterday’s man. Its a pity his experiment was rejected. Put simply, we should not play football at this level with less that three players in the centre of midfield and should reject 4-4-2 because it does not!

    3. The FA clearly has no vision for developing young players and inculcating them with the skills and understanding needed to play at this level. Where is the small army of trained coaches operating at youth level the FA promised to deliver? What became of the plan to develop the sight at Burton-on-Trent into an English Clairfontain? Its pathetic!
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  60. jaygooner says:

    If England had employed as charismatic a character as Maradona, maybe the obvious shortfalls in the team could have been overcome. Naaah, the FA shit themselves at the idea of Clough, so that aint going to happen anytime soon. England will always fail at the big tournaments, And if Capello goes who replaces him? Twitchy? hehe that could be fun.

  61. mikeB says:

    Hi Erick,
    sry but didn’t see your question at first.

    The piece is supposed to highlight the fact that it is the framework of our ‘England Story’ that has to be changed. If we don’t make it easy for managers to manage and players to play we fail before we have even begun to consider the short-term tactics.
    It is the long-term strategy that is at fault if you like, and that is the responsibility of the FA, the media, the other so-called experts, pundits, and television stations, to help create.
    At the moment it’s all out of wack; we’re talking tactics before we talk strategy; it’s analgous to how we failed to decide on a long-term strategy in Afghanistan before we started to think about how we combat IED’s.
    I used the storyline to get people thinking of how we create the England story, and how powerful each of our characters should be. Your hero always has to be more powerful and capable than those who try to make him fail; if that doesn’t happen you don’t have a story.

    Clear as mud huh?

  62. SD-London says:

    Morning all, Mike B rocks and made the good and obvious points that most of us has being scared to make.

    Let us forget the formation, it is simply that the players were not good enough.

    Mike B is right about the press they not just responsible for encouraging hate but they are responssible for over hyping the players; Lampard, Gerard ,Rooney, e.t.c.

    When tabloid was comparing Rooney and Messi i knew they were going to far.

    As per Capello , the media pressure got to him and i wouldn’t be surprised that he was probably sat down by FA officials that he should pick the big names because of sponsorship deals and TV viewing numbers.

    Because that’s what the selection looked like , yesterday i could see Johnson on the left and Walcott on the right then Rooney or Defoe in the middle.

    Or

    Ashley Young on the Left and Johnson on the right and Walcott in the middle supporting Rooney but apparently Rooney didn’t like Walcott that was why Capello dropped him. I just wished that rumour is not true.

  63. rico says:

    Hi again all…

    I distraction from England, I have been to check on a house for someone who is away, in the porch i find a baby bat, yes, a bat – i put in a tiny flower pot to keep it safe as it sleeps and contact the rescue centre (via the ‘bat phone’) 🙂

    After what seemed like hours of arranging its collection, i check the flower pot and the little bugger has escaped, more phone calls, more time and now i’m back 😉

  64. mikeB says:

    Rico,

    there wasn’t a little Weeeed, next to your flower posts was there? If so I might know what happened to your bat. Or am I just showing my age?

  65. rico says:

    😆 mikeB, you talking Bill and Ben 🙂

  66. SD-London says:

    Oh! by the way, i am so happy for Walcott and i guess he will be happy too because history will not include his name in the shameful team.

  67. rico says:

    You and me both SD 🙂

  68. SD-London says:

    Well will Wenger be keen to buy Joe Cole now?

  69. mikeB says:

    On the subject of Bill and Ben and being blind as a bat, I see Jovial ‘Arry has thrown his hat into the ring vis-à-vis the England Manager’s job.

    He didn’t wait for the job to become vacant. He didn’t wait for the carrion crows to start circling. He didn’t even wait for the dust to settle on his tax-avoidance case. He just came straight out and asked for Capello to be gone and him to be installed.

    And what was his justification, for such shameless self-promotion and breach of etiquette…? Xenophobia and Jingoism; makes you proud to be English don’t it?

    But how would you feel right now, if you were a Spuds fan (apart from deprived)? Your very own Messiah, that most glorious and gifted of men, would rather take a job where the holder is publicly and systematically vilified and crucified at every championship, almost as a matter of principle, than risk leading the Spuds into the Champions League.

    You have to have a smidgen of sympathy for them.

  70. jaygooner says:

    @MikeB The first thing ‘Arry will do as England manager will be to call up Gareth Bale. “Erm no Twitchy you cannot pick him, he is Welsh” Harry: “but I always rape my previous clubs of their best players” And no Harry, there isnt a treasure chest of untold debt at the FA, you cannot buy success here, you have to get the best out of the players at your disposal. ‘Arry; “What you mean that bunch over hyped plodders, give me my hat, my coat and my £6 million compensation, I am off!”

  71. mikeB says:

    jaygooner,
    What do you mean six million? Harry’s an Englishman. We always pay a premium for Englishmen.
    I don’t see him quitting for less than eight figures.

  72. rico says:

    mikeB, sorry, but I never have an ounce of sympathy in for anything spuds releated….

    Arry won’t get the job anyway imho, Hodgson must be favourite if the FA want a Englishman…

  73. rico says:

    jay 😆 😆

  74. rico says:

    Good point SD, i think he will if Cole wants to come to us, to be fair to him he wasn’t really involved in the competition anyway…

    Dutch are 1-0 up….

    Now if someone says lets go and get Robben, well, i’d say, so for it…

  75. mikeB says:

    Rico,
    given their previous record of avoiding anyone who isn’t politically correct and whiter-than white, I’m frankly suprised he even opened his mouth…

    But then I’m constantly surprised that Jovial ‘Arry has the sheer effrontery to do most of the things he does. Why should this be any different?

  76. SD-London says:

    Harry harry harry,

    It is funny how people are saying sack Capello ,the question is where are you going to get the coach to take up the Hot sit of England management.

    Capello did many things wrong and he alone will know 100% and if he is sacked now and an English coach is employed , it is unfortunately the begging of an English run in football.

    Capello should not be sacked and he should not be influenced and we should all listen to MIKE B’s comments

  77. SD-London says:

    Harry harry harry,

    It is funny how people are saying sack Capello ,the question is where are you going to get the coach to take up the Hot sit of England management who is at the level of Capello in England.

    Capello did many things wrong and he alone will know 100% and if he is sacked now and an English coach is employed now for the sake, it is unfortunately the beginning of backwardness and decline in English football.

    Capello should not be sacked and he should not be influenced and we should all listen to MIKE B’s comments

  78. rico says:

    Arry has wanted the England job for ages mikeB, he just needs to accept he’s never going to get it….

  79. rico says:

    SD, i’m not for Capello’s head, i’m for the players heads, they need to roll, new blood, younger legs and get england ready for 2012 euros and a serious world cup in 2014…. maybe even under steve bruce??

  80. SD-London says:

    Oh sorry Rico, i was just responding to the media reports for today.

    Well i guess Capello could have done with Ashley young, Walcott and Johnson’s services yesterday .

    There was no single wide man in play , who does that in the world cup.
    I think Capello should still be asked by an unbiased and intelligent journalist that if he thinks not taking Walcott was a bad decision.

  81. SD-London says:

    Ciao! :mrgreen:

  82. rico says:

    SD, no worries, for sure the media are after him, just about confirms mikeB’s post…

    see you tomorrow SD, have a lovely evening…

  83. rico says:

    good point about walcott though, and a couple of others…..

  84. agirlagunner says:

    Wow, mike b. Such articulate prose! Now that is the media for you. The press are entirely too inebriated on their own power. They build up players/coaches/teams, feel some sense of tummy-scratching self-satisfaction at the false authorship, and ever-fickle, when the creation has reached some level of recognition or success, proceeds viciously to tear it down.

    Having said that, I can only be honest and add that the press’ merciless savaging of the English NT is completely deserved. For a group not short on individual talent, it quite boggles the mind how purposelessly they played as a team, and how lacking in guile, invention and ambition they were.

    Hola, rico. Don’t you just love KT @ 10:37? Without even having looked at who posted, I could tell it was him. 🙂

  85. rico says:

    Hi agag, 😆 re KTR7 and his post, he amazes me so many times with his knowledge, thats a post in itself 🙂

  86. agirlagunner says:

    Actually, rico, KT was particularly inspired today! I have hit upon the perfect idea… Float a good topic, wait for a reaction, and seek permission to post the comment as a separate headline. 🙂 oliver, Red Arse, JJ, shrek, SD to name a few, have particularly fantastic comments. Me, I’ll serve drinks.

  87. Red Arse says:

    Ahem, excuse me you two. I get back from being tortured and find you salivating over the posts from MikeB and KT (admittedly deserved) 🙂 and I suddenly remembered how my post had put you to sleep.

    Anyway, hola Agag, hi chic ric. 🙂 tiamo tanto. (hoping they don’t speak/read Italian). 😉

  88. W.A.T.H says:

    RA ur such a perv…………….

  89. Red Arse says:

    W, I know, but I am in pain you know!!! 😉

  90. Red Arse says:

    Thing is Wath, I do send them to sleep. look no response.

    Are you back in the UK, oh great alpha male? 🙂

  91. Red Arse says:

    W, is that a new doggy avatar? You and Rico can go snap! 🙂

    Anyway, if they are not coming out to play, I’m off to get sympathy for my poorly knee elsewhere! 😦

  92. W.A.T.H says:

    In pain RA…….. hmmmm kinky as well I take it… Nope still here in SA mate, here for a bit yet I have some decent footie to watch now England have left the party…!

  93. W.A.T.H says:

    I’m sure they around RA no new avatar from Me, Rico just gone upside down cos England made her head spin it seems.

  94. agirlagunner says:

    Hola, RA. Polyglot much? Your post didn’t send me to sleep! My bath did! 🙂 Plus, I had a date to keep with Robin! How’s the knee?

  95. W.A.T.H says:

    AGAG, don’t you think Robin Hood a bit old for you……….? ? ? ? ? Oh and hello gorgeous….! 😉

  96. agirlagunner says:

    Boo, WATH! How are you? Wildlifeing? All quiet on the alcohol front here. No one’s drinking. 😦 And I would never give Erick anything!

  97. Red Arse says:

    Agag, it needs lots of TLC.

    Polyglot, is that a russian parrot? I would like Wath to know I was nowhere near your bath. 😉

  98. Suhail.TV says:

    Hello all.. Good comment/post Mike B… Its a reality and the players are not properly glued as team..

  99. Suhail.TV says:

    Hello Wath whats up..? and how s the African safari going.. 🙂

  100. rico says:

    Oi Oi 🙂

    i was watching Robin, Robben and now a bit of Scotch 😉

  101. oliver says:

    afternoon all…back from the bronx. dismal weekend for usa and england. oh well…

  102. W.A.T.H says:

    Hi STV………. RA………… AGAG and her bath…. hmmm I wonder…!

    All good here AGAG i’m def making up 4 your lack of alcohol and I agree can’t let weeds anywhere near the hard tac…!.

    polyglot is russina 4 lie detector RA……

  103. Suhail.TV says:

    why they concede a last minute pen. rico.. it gave away the perfection

  104. K-TR7 says:

    Evening all…

  105. rico says:

    RA, how you feeling ????

  106. Suhail.TV says:

    Hello ktr7 how was the dutch game???

  107. rico says:

    i know stv, they still need to step up a bit to win it…

    actually, maybe they will just fire perfectly in the final 🙂

  108. rico says:

    agag, i’ll do the popcorn 😉

  109. agirlagunner says:

    van Persie, WATH. Only one Robin concerns me. 🙂 Have you drunk your body weight in GG yet?

    Haha, RA. But aren’t you a “russian parrot”? I hope the knee is better with some therapy.

    STV, how are you? I always seem to pop off just when you arrive.

    oliver, too bad for the USA. But England were woeful and wholly deserved their ignominious exit. 🙂 Shame no one took a knock.

  110. Suhail.TV says:

    Am good Agag.. I always prolong the arrival till the completion of first game.. and.. howz you..

  111. W.A.T.H says:

    Evinin KT….! AGAG I think I have done a container load of GG they have brought in emergency supplies I was told the other night 😉

  112. K-TR7 says:

    STV the dutch game was not the best i’ve seen but the dutch gravy train continues to roll awaiting chile/brazil.rvp looks off-form which is worrying but as he recently said torres scored in the final of the euros which was his only goal of the tourney.

  113. Red Arse says:

    Hi Oliver

    The thing is the USA deserved a lot of credit, they all tried hard, were determined and skilful. They couldn’t quite do it but that’s footie. 😦

    England on the other hand got what they deserved too … bugger all!

    Do your family enjoy football (soccer) or do they just have to bear the slings and arrows of outrageous fortune with you? 🙂

  114. Red Arse says:

    Agag, the russian parrot thing …. what gave me away babushka, was it the simpleton responses, the simpleton responses, the sim….. 😉

  115. agirlagunner says:

    Abbastanza bene, STV. (Haha, RA you started this.)

    Hola, KT! To what do we owe your inspiration today?

    WATH, that’s a looot to drink. That you are probably half serious is little scary. 😦

    rico, would you please make my popcorn caramelly? Yum.

  116. Suhail.TV says:

    Another worrying thing is that Wenger acted in the Wenger’s way so far.. no players the hope is fading..

  117. oliver says:

    hi rico/agag/ra. usa’s problem is that they really did not start playing until after the break – yet again, conceded a completely un-necessary goal in the opening minutes. gave the ball away too cheaply too many times, and after ghana scored early in the second half, they showed little urgency until the last few minutes. i think it is good that an african team continues to progress, but i am obviously frustrated that we lost to the same team for the second world cup in a row. that said, in 2006 ghana’s winning goal came off a clear dive. this time, i have no problem with ghana going through, they were the better side over 120 mins. england supporters deserve a better team than they got – not the english media, not the players, not fabio…just the supporters….i understand the frustration over the goal not given, but at this stage, there is not much difference between 1-4 and 2-4…germany could have scored a lot more that just four, if they wanted to…family like both football and nfl. one brother is a spuds fan :=( my entire family support nfl new york giants and mlb new york mets.

  118. Red Arse says:

    Abbastanza bene, Only O.K., Agag? Surely not now big W is back!

  119. rico says:

    hi oliver, at least the usa looked like a footballing side, and all playing for the same team…

    its done agag 🙂

  120. Suhail.TV says:

    A Scotch is working for rico now agag.. hello Mr comment 🙂

  121. oliver says:

    rico, i think getting out of the group was the minimum expectation for usa, so there will not be that much gnashing of teeth here…beside, mlb interleague play has been the top recent store and from july 1st, it will lebron james 24-7…robin did not look very pleased when he was subbed today…i would like to have seen him get a goal (he came close with the excellent free kick), but i am more concerned about him staying in one piece!

  122. Red Arse says:

    Darn it Oliver, up to now I liked you, but I’m a Yankees man. 🙂 Still you write about footie so well I’ll forgive you the Mets! 🙂

    Ignore Agag comparing me to a dessicated russian polly, I’m a true blue! 😉

  123. Suhail.TV says:

    Oliver.. when I started supporting Chicago bulls.. they are not winning any thing.. 😦

  124. K-TR7 says:

    Agag i just try to give it my all if it relates to a topic am familiar with.RA’s post was quite unique in terms of subject matter and it was sad seeing low contributions since he viewed the whole issue from another angle.RA it was fantastic!

  125. oliver says:

    STV, I am a born-and-bred NY Knicks fan – trust me, the Bulls will win an NBA championship before the Knicks will. Lebron will never come to the Garden, not with the condition the Knicks franchise is in! Our only hope right now for someone to buy the Garden (the Knicks and Rangers franchises will come with it) from Cablevision – James Dolan/Isaiah Thomas/Glen Sather have destroyed those two franchises!

  126. oliver says:

    RA, I grew up six subway stops (#4 line) from Yankee Stadium, my Mom still lives in the same apartment where I grew up, but I have never liked the Yanks. Not sure why, I just have always prefered the Mets. Not even the lopsided World Championship count (27 to 2) makes a difference to me.

  127. Red Arse says:

    Thanks KT.

    Agag and the others were right though, you have an excellent talent. Write a post for Rico, it will give her a break, it’s very hard for her to come up with the goodies everyday.

    Joking aside, Agag is right, 🙂 I am not too good at it but if it helps Rico I don’t care! 😳

    You too Oliver, get the quill out! 😉

  128. agirlagunner says:

    At least, oliver, the Americans were not embarrassing. Despite the early goals shipped in, the players were fighting to the last. Your brother’s a spud? Perché???

    I used to love basketball since I live in basketball country. But I met Trezeguet in 98, and I haven’t looked back.

    RA, should I have said “Sono molto felice”?? Well… maybe I could have. 🙂

    I really enjoyed your posts today, KT! Bravo.

  129. oliver says:

    Tell you what, RA….I will write – I will write about how bringing Ike Davis and R.A. Dickey up from AAA has led to this great turnaround in the Mets season. How Angel Pagan is now indispensible in the outfield. How this is suddenly a team that plays hard for themselves and their manager and perhaps believes they can actually accomplish something this year. How Omar Minaya still makes more bad decisions than good, but credit where credit is due…Deal?

  130. oliver says:

    agag, the ‘states team certainly fought hard, to the end, but they were also unnecessarily sloppy at the start of games, had slack passing in all four matches, and did not always show the urgency some situations required, specifically in the algeria and ghana games.

  131. Suhail.TV says:

    I hope kniks will oliver..,trying for Lebron..!

  132. Red Arse says:

    Oliver, you are not alone in your support for the Mets.

    Last time I was in NY I went to buy a new bat, mit and Yankees hat. Nada! It was ALL Mets stuff. Spoke to the manager and told him it was not good enough. His reply was typical NY bullshit, “the Yankees are so popular we keep selling out” Yeah, right! But I liked his pzzaz(?). 🙂

  133. oliver says:

    STV, we won’t get him. Sure he can make more $$ in NY, but this team is still a million miles away. The entire franchise has been chronically mis-managed for the past decade. Knicks have not even been relevant since the 99 season. If I could advise Lebron, I would recommend he stay at home in Cleveland – at least until he brings them a championship.

  134. Suhail.TV says:

    Agag do you watched Rajon Rhondo.. He is like an effective walcot in football.

  135. Red Arse says:

    Oliver go for it. I will read it, and I will certainly cry while the Gooners lynch you! 😉

    I watched the Mets on TV over the weekend …. hmmmm 🙂

    Agag, I knew once Wath appeared you wopuld be happy. Encore! 😉

  136. oliver says:

    RA, where did you go? Mo’s or Sports Authority or Dick’s? Most of those places stock Yankees stuff. Here in DC, those three stores carry plenty of Yankees gear – and this is an area where the Nats and Orioles are the local teams!!

  137. JonJon says:

    fucking germans….

    kick their arse in a fight and they punish you however they can for all eternity…

    i hate the english national side but the three lions is still the three lions and against the germans its a must win game…

    every sodding time…
    this will be the end of an era…thank god

    time to bring the young lads through like rodwell and johnston and then england will become more important to me again

    lampard and his likes can sod off….and good riddance for a decade of making watching england unbearable…

  138. Suhail.TV says:

    And oliver I thing the bulls is facing what arsenal is facing.. Good old days.. caught by youth presently and difficulty to throw the $$

  139. rico says:

    I agree with you all about KTR7’s comments, just get him to sort wordpress out 🙂 🙂 🙂

  140. rico says:

    Hi jj, weren’t they rubbish….

  141. rico says:

    That goes for you too oliver, the door is open for everyone 🙂

    Yep, i’m lazy 😉

  142. rico says:

    jj, it was very refreshing to hear sky talk about the up and coming players – they even mentioned a few Arsenal ones… That must have hurt them 😉

  143. Red Arse says:

    Oliver,

    I visited Hells Kitchen, as usual and became slightly tanked. Lurve dem Coors! 😉 I can’t remember off the top of my head which store, but I wrote a letter of complaint (hoping for some compensation) {I know it’s reprehensible, but Rico told me to do it 😉 } I will dig out the letter and let you know.

    Look, it’s confession time, I’ve been trying to keepit quiet, but I’m also a folorn Knicks fan. 😦

    Let’s not talk about it! 😦

  144. Suhail.TV says:

    Hello JJ.. seems the work is too harsh on you these days.. :(. yeah the germans are fcuking.. They make a team months before a tournament and go all the way with it. I know thay will lose to albicelestes.

  145. JonJon says:

    they were rubbish…

    but saying that they had a 5 minute spell where they were raping them and should of had two goals in 2 minutes…

    if that goal would have been allowed then god knows what might have happened…it would have been alot closer i reckon…the momentum would have been with england but their heads dropped and thats just what you expect from over hyped players..

  146. oliver says:

    ra, last comment on ny sports: patrick ewing seems to have existed in another lifetime, was it really that long ago for the knicks? ok, no more…on to arsenal…only, there does not appear much to say about them at the moment…i expect a koscielny announcement soon, perhaps schwarzer as well…otherwise, wait and see…for both arrivals and departures.

  147. Red Arse says:

    Chic Ric,

    You are anything but lazy! 😉

    JJ thank god you are hear, with your commonsense, buuuuut what about Jack Wilishire, in your new England boys? 🙂

    O.K. I am taking probably more GG (equivalent) to dampen my bloody knee ache, and the key board is hopping about, but Olly Oliver is a good lad!

    I had better go or Agag won’t come back to amuse you all! 😉

  148. JonJon says:

    hey suhail

    the germans run their national side like a club…and it works..they are always dangerous in the tourneys and are always there or there abouts at the end

    england run the side like a circus..

    ‘hes famous pick him’

  149. JonJon says:

    wilshire will be an england player RA

    but wenger needs to play him first.. 😉

    gibbs too….

  150. agirlagunner says:

    STV, I’m afraid not. But I have heard of Ranjana Khan. 😉 Nothing to do with sport, but amazing amazing girly girl stuff.

    oliver, take heart. Even to the neutral, the Americans’ performance is nothing to be ashamed of. You guys can only get better at football. You just need one phenomenal player who will call attention to the sport.

    RA, that was a rhetorical Q. Bye, rico. Catch you tomorrow. For the nth time, hi, JJ and bye, JJ! England’s future will be bright, it will have some of ours, for sure.

    I am off all, niteynite!

  151. JonJon says:

    i dont blame capello either…

    i think hes a top manager who had it right through the qualifiers…

    its the players

    they are shitty bum at every big tourney and i hope capello stays cos hes the type of guy that wont fuck about..

    expect to see massive changes and it wouldnt suprise me if the egotistical rebellious elements in the side never played again..no matter what the media say..

  152. Suhail.TV says:

    True jj..It was a mixture of good players and crap players and they are not properly glued together.. and so called great players are not really great.

  153. JonJon says:

    im beginning to think this is personal agag 😉

    bye bye

  154. Suhail.TV says:

    Good night Agag.. Sleep well..

  155. Red Arse says:

    Bye Agag,

    I knew it was rhetorical. Just trying to play your game!

  156. Suhail.TV says:

    Any body there..

  157. Red Arse says:

    I’m still here Suhail, although I am seeing double at the mo’.

    Hopefully Rico and JJ are still here otherwise you won’t get much sense out of me! 🙂

  158. JonJon says:

    im here guys just cracking open a frosty one.. 😉 getting ready for the chile brazil game..

    heres a question..

    pretend your england manager..whats your team??

  159. Red Arse says:

    Nite Rico, my friend! 🙂

    Nite JJ, you are ace. 😉

  160. rico says:

    im here, just cooking at the same time 😦

  161. rico says:

    i’ll be back to give my team in ten 🙂

  162. oliver says:

    still here also.

  163. Red Arse says:

    Hart, Johnson, Dawson, Cahil, Gibbs

    Wilshire, …… I can’t think …………. Nite JJ

  164. Red Arse says:

    Bye Oliver, Suhail, you are good guys! 🙂

  165. Suhail.TV says:

    defoe
    walcott
    lennon lampard carrick gerrard
    acole terry ferdnand jhonson
    haart

  166. Suhail.TV says:

    Good night RA..

  167. Red Arse says:

    Oliver,

    Have you seen the “7 am weblog on NewsNow?

    What do you think?

    Tell me tomporrow when i am sobner! 😉

  168. Suhail.TV says:

    sub : rooney defo gibbs cole wilshere carrick

  169. JonJon says:

    —————-hart

    richards–cahill—dawson—gibbs

    ——–cattermole—rodwell

    —theo——–jack——johnston

    —————rooney

  170. Suhail.TV says:

    sub : rooney-defo gibbs-cole wilshere-carrick

  171. JonJon says:

    thanks RA

    your not so bad yourself mate.. 😉

  172. rico says:

    You off RA, nighty night 🙂

  173. Suhail.TV says:

    Wow A complete rebuilding JJ.. Iam very impressed with Gibbs . He surely has a great future unless deprived by the media hype.. and honestly I’d like to see him surpass clichy coming season.

  174. JonJon says:

    gibbs is a top talent suhail

    and he can cross a ball so he’d be in the arsenal team over clichy for me anyday..

  175. oliver says:

    c ya.

  176. Suhail.TV says:

    Thats for today jj.. Am off the match is on..laters

  177. rico says:

    I’d def have Gibbs, Theo, Wilshere, Cahill, Hart, Milner, Johnson, Dawson and maybe even JET in there 🙂

  178. rico says:

    Night STV and oliver

  179. JonJon says:

    im off too…

    feeling a samba beat..and some melo cruching tackles…

    peace

  180. rico says:

    Then I’m off too,

    nighty night all, thanks again mikeB

    catch you all tomorrow 🙂

  181. Dr. D says:

    It’s a nice idea to think that the pressure get’s to the English players because of all the media attention, BUT you’re giving the English players to much credit to start with. They play like shit in these tournaments because for the most part that’s what they are. There’s not one English player who can create his own shot. They looked like pub players out there.These players get too much credit for the club success they have. Look at all the talent these players are surrounded by every week that makes their jobs much easier, and most of them get bailed out by the crooked refs. This isn’t gonna happen when they step off their island. You’re not a world power in soccer and never have been. Winning on home soil in 66 doesn’t count. The sooner you realize this you can lower your expectations and enjoy how real teams play the game.

  182. rico says:

    New Post up

  183. attafuah says:

    Dr D, you are spot on mate!! the crooked refs and the media do all the work for these lot and they take all the credit. A close friend of Essien once disclosed this “Lampard gets all the credit after they do all the donkey work” If England are going to win, they need to start treating these players on an equal level..

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