Why Özil after two good games? Is it Goodbye to Dudu?

It seems that the whole world of footballing fans suddenly want their club to buy Mesut Ozil and we Arsenal fans are no different are we.

One great display against the ten men of Australia, an average performance during Germanys loss to Serbia but then a wonder strike from the player to earn his country a 1-0 win over Ghana, seems to have convinced us all that he is the man we want Arsene Wenger to sign.

Well, yes it would be wonderful wouldn’t it to finally bag ourselves an out-and-out attacking midfielder, a winger some would call him. I’ve forgotten what a winger was its been so long since we’ve had a ‘real one’.

But hang on, were we not crying out for players with experience, did we not ask for players who have been there and done it, did we not say we have too many young players in our squad and we wanted oldies to ‘show the way’ to the young uns??

We did, so what makes us all suddenly believe that Mesut Ozil is good enough for Arsenal Football Club. Be honest with yourselves, did you want him before this World Cup? No, nor did I!

We have little to no chance in buying him in my opinion and feel free to voice yours loud and clear, but Wenger has said he will not buy a player off the back of a four-week competition. Add to that, he has had two very good games in three, is that really enough to convince Wenger to splash out vast amounts of money? Nah, I don’t think so.

Werde Bremen will be sat rubbing their hands together as this tournament goes by knowing that if their 6’0″ attacking player continues to shine they will be able to stick a £20M price on his head.

That price tag will be far too much for Wenger. However, his contract ends this time next year, maybe we will see another Audrey Arshavin scenario in January if he hasn’t been snapped up by then..

I don’t think we’ll get him, but I’m sure he’d look good in Red and White and he wears the Number 10 🙂

Sad news this morning written in many papers, that is that Eduardo could be on his way. Reports are that Arsene Wenger no longer has him in his first-team plans and he would be better suited to league where football is a less hard. Well, I wonder how Martin Taylor feels this morning having read the papers?

If this transpires to be true then I truly hope it’s not the beginning of the end of our little poachers career…

Well done to Ghana for yesterdays win, great to see the African flag flying and today it the turn of England. No doubt it will be a high scoring, entertaining match with plenty of goals.

Have a good day all, enjoy the sunshine and the football…


248 Responses to Why Özil after two good games? Is it Goodbye to Dudu?

  1. rico says:

    Morning all

    Sad news if its true re Eduardo, but I can understand why Wenger would let him go, he won’t get my playing time and needs to be in a more ‘gentle’ league…

  2. Danish Gooner says:

    Regarding Dudu it is Tabloid bullshit and regarding Ozil it isnt because he played a couple of good games for Germany but because he set the BUndesliga alight and is three times the player Rosicky is.

  3. Danish Gooner says:

    The turks of London would love us to get a german/turk in our side.

  4. gooner 52 says:

    Arsene will not buy ozil as we have a certain Jack Wilshere whose playing style is similar to that of ozil……….regarding eduardo he doesn’t fit into our new formation of 4-3-3….so sell him and buy a winger maybe eden hazard/afellay/balazs dzsudszak

  5. Danish Gooner says:

    If we sell that plonker Rosicky for 10 mil we can easily afford 15 to 20 mil for Ozil,come on Wenger make it happen.

  6. DragonDragon says:

    “Be honest with yourselves, did you want him before this World Cup?”


  7. DragonDragon says:

    Oh, and Wenger was interested in Ozil just before he moved from Schalke to Bremen, so he’s not going to base any opinion of him based on just the World Cup.

  8. mike says:

    i wanted Ozil before the world cup, used to watch him on espn n memba da matches he played against valencia. Great post, your saying what everyone else thinking.

  9. DragonDragon says:

    Not that I think he’ll buy him now or anything. Unfortunately.

  10. adam says:

    Actually, we have been linked with Ozil for a long time and to suppose that this has come after 2 good games is fanciful. He is a very, very good player and if Cesc goes, could form part of a midfield axis that I think could work. I agree about Eduardo though and it shows in stark terms the duty of care that players should have for one another. His Arsenal career was ended by an act of thuggery that had its roots in the mind of McLeish. I well remember his lilly-livered interview after the game where he admitted to telling his players to “get in Arsenal’s faces”. This is a horrible term, reserved it would seem almost exclusively for teams of cloggers when they play Arsenal. It has been embraced by Pulis and that disgusting man Allardyce as their “tactic” on many occasions. Eduardo’s situation is a direct result of that ethos.

  11. Rob says:

    Ozil was absolutely brilliant is the Bundesliga for the past two seasons and by far the best player at hthe euro u-21s last summer, so he wouldve been on my list if cesc left.

    But I agree that it is much more important to bring in experience first. So koscielny, a back up CB and a new goalie (don’t think GK will happen) are most likely,

    AW said more than 3 in destabalises team.

    Also, I have a feeling he will give Nordtveit a chance to cement a subs bench CB spot in pre season, so although not ideal, asbackup he may be good enough

  12. Danish Gooner says:

    Jack Wilshere is another english plonker compared to Ozil whose vision of the game is far superior to Jacks.

  13. rico says:

    Hi all, great to see you all and welcome to those just joined…

    I’ll be honest I’d not heard of Ozil before this campaign, will be interesting to see how he does against Cole today, if he makes Cashley look silly (well, sillier) then go arsene, go….

  14. DM says:

    Be honest with yourselves, did you want him before this World Cup?

    Yes – you’re just a little behind the times on this blog. We were looking at Ozil and Nasri at the same time. We went for Nasri as Ozil hadnt yet broken into the Bremen first team. This last 2 seasons he’s really come to the fore with Diego now moved on. He’s a classy player, only coming if Rosicky moves on. Which he wont.

  15. rico says:

    Wow Danish, thats harsh on Jack…

  16. JonJon says:

    morning rico

    no talk of germans today please.. 😉

    danish are you on a wind up mate??? rosicky might not be the player he was but hes no plonker..

    and jack??

    who’s pissed on your chips?

  17. Rob says:

    Ozil makes jack look like a plonkedr?

    Firstly, no he doesn’t and we haven seen enough of Jack to know that, secondly, do you watch the Bundesliga?

    If so, then you’ll see that they’re pretty similar types of player.

    Not to mention that ozil is THREE years older than Jack

    In three years he will at least be at ozils level

    In terms of role, I would say Ozil alone couldn’t spark a midfield, sort of like Rosicky, just much much better. Just my opinion, but I think that in a couple, Jack will be able to.

    Just my opinion and only time will tell

  18. rico says:

    DM, if you call Ozils name being in a paper ‘looking at him’ then thats up to you, did Wenger say he was looking at him??

    I thought it was Ben Arfa we were linked to at the same time as Nasri???

    We are not a little behind here, we write about whats in the news today, you should try doing that on your own blog…

  19. JonJon says:

    ozils name was mentioned a few times this year by a few bloggers

    ktr pointed him out to me a few months back..turns out he was right.

  20. rico says:

    Morning jj

    No Waldorf salad either 🙂

  21. JonJon says:

    you are correct rico

    we were looking at ben arfa

    it seems DM was the only one looking at ozil a few years ago and is now the cat with the cream over the fact he spotted this lad

    DM did you point him out to joachim lowe too??

  22. Rob says:

    DM, you must have gotten a lot of satisfaction from that, brilliant comment and input into the Arsenal community….

  23. Martin says:

    Ozil has been more than just 2 good performances at the WC

    Ive followed him since he made England look like 5 year olds in the U-21 Euros with 2 assists and a goal in the final amongst other great performances, then there was his great performance in the German cup final which he won, then there was him taking on the pressure of being Werder Bremens main man which he did after Diego left and had a great season, then he took on the mantle for Germany, BEFORE the WC and now hes shown he can perform under real pressure at the WC

    now if I have followed him for all of about 1-2 years im sure Wenger has followed him for about 5 and not just off the back of a 4 week competition

    he to me is the answer to Cesc cos clearly he can perform well under huge pressure

  24. rico says:

    jj & Rob 😆

    Its that thing about players who bust on to the scene, look great and the whole world wants them…

    Just look at Theo 🙂

  25. Alan says:

    Ozil isn’t good after two games, he’s good after 2 seasons. 2 seasons of playing at the highest level in the german league. And he’s not a winger, although he can play there, he is a more a traditional number 10.

  26. rico says:

    Martin, that is just the kind of comment I hoped for, I’d not heard much about him and hope for more info, you have just done exactly that…

    Sadly though, unless the fact that his contract is up next summer, I can’t see Wenger splashing out what Bremen will now be asking…

  27. JonJon says:

    ive got a feeling ozil would inprove the team but would now cost way too much money..even in the last year of his contract the top teams will spend big to get him.

    and we all know we dont spend money

    wenger would rather play denilson on the wing than spend 30mil on a new player.

    as for dudu i would like to give him another year and play him regular but i dont think hes good enough to get into the team anyway and if he doesnt want to sit on the bench fair enough..dont blame him..he hasnt come back from what hes come back from to get splinters..

  28. rico says:

    Alan, he’s described in the post exactly as you have said??

  29. JonJon says:

    i tell you what i wouldnt mind a couple of those ghana boys…

    im still liking anthony annan..

  30. Rob says:

    I get your point

    As a mere armchair scout, my observation
    would be that Theo never proved himself at top level, and Ozil has. Also that (again, v. Armchairscoutish) Ozil is a very technically gifted, intelligent player whereas theo isn’t, so Ozil
    is better suited to adapt

    One thing about signing theo that never made sense was that if you look at arsenes house stricture for young players, he says that if you ain’t got it technically by 14 you’re out. So did theo have it??? Does he have It now?

    Good point Rico

  31. Martin says:

    true true rico i think that what may happen is that we keep Cesc for a year and Wenger will some how convince him to see how it goes for another year whilst also looking for viable options

    then let Cesc go next year if we dont at least win the PL/CL and get in maybe Ozil on a free or someone of the experience say of Sneider ( i wish) or someone similar

  32. DeiseGooner says:

    Not another No10 player! We have a bucket load of them – Cesc, Van Persie, Arshavin, Nasri, Rosicky, Wilshire and now probably Joe Cole – Good as he is we have a fews better who are already settled in the team.

    The deficiency in the team is defensive players not attackers. If we can afford to lose Eduardo it kinda goes to prove that.

  33. JonJon says:


    ive said that about theo all along!!!

    ive got a feeling theo burst onto the scene and wenger made a boo boo buying a lad on the fact he only had pace hoping to turn him into henry.

    it wasnt until he’d been at arsenal a year that wenger started to realise he had made a monumental cockup but wont concede defeat cos theo cost 12mil…

  34. rico says:

    jj, there are many an african player that would slot right into our side….

  35. Rob says:

    Second that for Anthony annan

    My know it all football nephew made him one of my ones to watch before the cup started and have been really impressed

    However, for me that’s my ‘he was good at the world cup, let’s sign him’ player……

  36. JonJon says:

    yeah weve got too many attackers, the team is unbalanced but i also feel alot of our attackers are not good enough…so if an extra attacker was to come along such as ozil or joe cole i would welcome him with open arms cos i wouldnt cry myself to sleep if any of our current attackers were dropped to the bench

  37. rico says:

    Hi DG, i don’t think his position is the priorty either, we haven’t got a bottemless pit of money, what we have needs to be spent on our defensive…

    Rob, the big thing with Theo was that he’s English and every club wanted him…

  38. JonJon says:

    i’d never heard of Annan before this world cup..but ive watched him throughout and i like him..

    doesnt really stand out and doesnt have many tricks or flicks but does all the dirty work, tackles hard and never stops running..

    he’s like essien and hes the flamini type cog weve missed in this arsenal machine for the passed 2 seasons…

    i also think melo has had a good tourney..he was awseome v the ivory coast..

    but i think annan plays for some club in the eskimo league so wouldnt cost all that much

  39. rico says:

    thats all we want though jj, a player who does what is says on the tin, gilberto is still doing well too…

  40. JonJon says:

    yeah theo was english and wenger priced everyone out of the market with what he paid for him…

    arsenal are the chelsea and citeh of children and it annoys me cos even with all these financail restraints, money has always been avialable but weve spent it on kids instead of the real deal

  41. Niels says:

    Two good games? Are you on cracker? He has tormented defenses for Werder Bremen for a long time now. Kid is the Real deal.

  42. JonJon says:

    gilbertos doing well but melo does all his running..

    i dont think brazil actually need gilberto but their attackers are that good they can afford to play him and he adds lots of experience and abit of leadership…

  43. DeiseGooner says:

    IF we lose Eduardo (like i said before since the injury he wont go in where it hurts) we still gain Chamakh, and probobly Joe Cole too. So we have improved the attack – when it really wasnt a priority.

    So forget Ozil i say – get a keeper, a centrehalf and a player that can play both CH and DM – id be happy with that

  44. rico says:

    maybe thats where they have it right jj 😉

  45. rico says:

    Ozil will probably snapped up by Barca, he would be cheaper than Cesc…

  46. JonJon says:

    yup rico

    if you have the right amonunt of quality you can afford ‘passengers’ who offer the team something else

    gilberto wouldnt hack it at arsenal no more cos hes faster than denilson still so he would have to do all the running and we havent got enough quality up front to take the pressure off him…

  47. rico says:

    DG, i’m not so keen on the ‘dual role’ players, they never seem to get a break, its alright for an emergency but for our tight old boss its an excuse not to buy players for one position…

  48. rico says:

    i guess i would rather see gilberto than denilson in when song is out jj, he may be as slow as denilson but he does at least have a footballing brain 😉

  49. goonergerry says:

    Reading it in the mail does not make it fact. How do they know he’s not in the first team next season? But if it is true- I wonder why his contract was extended last year? OK so if he has lost speed and if he has lost it psychologically as a striker- play him in midfield- he still has vision, touch, imagination- and can pass the ball. Why let an obvious class player leave? Unless we need the money that is.

  50. JonJon says:

    but he doesnt make interceptions rico!!! 😉

    or throw for a touch down!!! or whatever it is what denilsons good for!!

  51. rico says:

    goonergerry, please, i didn’t suggest it was fact, i said if the story turns out to be true…..

    i know its only paper talk, everything is this time of year, but i wouldn’t be at all surprised if he goes…

  52. DeiseGooner says:

    Well thats why i mention it Rico – cause i dont see 6 players coming in.

    We got Chamakh
    We MAY have Joe Cole
    We NEED a keeper
    We NEED at least 1 centrehalf possibly 2
    And we could do with another DM

    Wenger says more that 3 players disrupts the team and hes never been one to buy a whole heap of players.

    I suppose you could argue that only 2 would be starters therefore its not a disruption but……

  53. Erick says:

    Morning good people 🙂 Ghana did it my oh my am enjoying the Wc and bring on Uruguay 🙂 Sad that Dudu might be packing his bags am hoping its all rumour Rico Ozil is a fine player but he has not been tested enough England will just do that to him lets see

  54. rico says:

    nothing jj, denilson is good for nothing 😉 😉

  55. Red Arse says:

    Hi Rico, JJ

    Thought provoking post Rico, and yes I did here about Ozil before the WC, but never gave much thought to him. Wenger almost certainly knew about him but he was never seriously linked to the Gunners. A good player but JJ is right we will never buy him for the sort of money mentioned. 😦

    Really disliked Danish Gooner’s racist and unbalanced comment about Jack. Shove it, my friend.

    Rico, did you get my email last night? 🙂

  56. rico says:

    DG, fair point, ebenezer won’t buy who/what we need to a duel role player has to be the only answer…. sadly..

  57. rico says:

    Morning Erick, Ghana did you proud 🙂

  58. JonJon says:


    coz that class player doesnt want to be a bit part player after what he went through he wants to play football and not sit on the bench

    baring in mind we have about 90 strikers now i think the chances of him playing in the majority of games are slim..

    dont forget the 433 isnt really a 433 its a 451…dudu doesnt fit either formation as a winger or a lone striker…

    unless we revert back to 442 he wont play..

    ive got a feeling he was offered a new contract to keep his price high…

  59. rico says:

    Morning RA, oops, i am getting as bad as jj for not checking my emails 😳

    I thought you had done a runner, so pleased that is not the case, agag will be glad 😉

  60. Erick says:

    JJ am sure you know by now that Denilson potential is world class 😉 RA howdy nice read up yesterday but am thinking Cesc is a goner and his heart is at the stains

  61. rico says:

    jj, me too, so many have walked for free i think finally after 200 years wenger or maybe gazidis has woken up..

  62. goonergerry says:

    I have watched the Bundesliga a lot. Ozil is the next big thing- he is real class- I would sell Fabregas and buy him- thats how certain I am about this guys ability. Fabregas will be a great player- though not for us- after he has spent the next season on Barca’s bench, Ozil will have overtaken him. If Arsenal are for real and really can splash the cash- he’s the guy they need to splash the cash on- and soon- but as they don’t have any money its academic.- good player though.

  63. rico says:

    RA, i let the comment about Jack go over my head, just had a feeling the guy was on a wind up….

  64. JonJon says:

    hello RA

    enjoyed the posts mate well done like a duck to water..

  65. rico says:

    Daxxjoker – feel free to come and post your views about Ozil, but mixing insults like yours into your comment means you stay in spam!! Change your approach or bolt the door after you close it,……

  66. Red Arse says:

    look guys, Ozil/Schmozil, I would love him but as was said earlier, our big problem is defence central midfield!

    Replacing Gallas with an unknown Koscielny is simply NOT good enough! We need a CLASS centre back, plus Koscielny as back up.

    We need to say goodbye to Denilson and get a CLASS central midfield.

    How difficult is that to understand? Come on Arsene!

  67. Erick says:

    Rico you should have seen me waving my flag 🙂 lol JJ we owe Dudu another season and not just on the bench but on the field

  68. rico says:


    we all understand it, you need to convince wenger 🙂

  69. rico says:

    😆 Erick, trumpet blowing too i bet ….

  70. JonJon says:

    i agree GG

    i want wenger to splash the cash on players ( any age) who are tearing their leagues up now…

    i dont really want any more unknowns or kids who will be ‘tearing their league up this time in 7 years then we can sell them for huge profit’

    trophies trophies trophies

    and to do that we need the best players…ozil falls into that category i think…

  71. Red Arse says:

    Hi Erick 🙂

    Thanks to both you and JJ for your support, really appreciated. :embarrased: 🙂

  72. Erick says:

    Goonerg you seen convinced Ozil be the answer to el captain RA spot on re defence and DM we need to tighten up at the back

  73. JonJon says:

    i want a new keeper, two CB’s of shit hotness (although i’ll settle for one of shit hotness and another decent as back up) a duracell bunny CM ( doesnt have to be out ond out defensive, just needs to be able to run faster than the ref and do it for 90 minutes)

    anything alse would be a bonus but a winger and a goalscorer would be nice too 😉

  74. DeiseGooner says:

    If Man City get Yaya i wonder would they be open to selling De Jong- i like the cut of his jib – i still got a soft spot for Cana though – hes just the nutter in midfield we need since Flamini left

  75. Red Arse says:

    Rico, I was just spouting. My comment about “understanding the problem” was addressed to Arsene. I’m sure he reads all our comments. 😉

    If Cesc goes, I think we could afford Ozil from the transfer money, and I would certainly prefer him to Gourcoff for example.

  76. Erick says:

    Vuvuzela Rico 🙂 🙂 hope Wath can get one for himself but he seems to prefer zulu girls

  77. Erick says:

    JJ how did you like Annan yesterday worked his socks off 🙂 the ref was crap how can he give Ayew a yellow for such a soft foul on Altidore

  78. Red Arse says:

    JJ, I am with you on your 10:15. 🙂

    I think Wath should get back here pronto and whisper in Wenger’s ear! I think that might work. 🙂

  79. JonJon says:

    i dunno about cana DeiseG

    he didnt do much good at sunderland..cattermoles a better player i think.

    de jongs a good shout though. dont think we’d get him though..

    and if we are after any player from citeh its gotta be joe hart

  80. Danish Gooner says:

    Hold your horses,i like Jack but to sugggest he is half the player Ozil is rather ludicrous.i have watched ozil several times in the bundes league and he is the finished article,Jack is a huge raw talent and i wish him the best of luck at Arsenal but something tells me Mr.Wenger doesnt fancy him.By the way you can all sleep easy because Wenger would never in a million years cough up with that kind of money needed for him to buy Ozil.

  81. Erick says:

    DG De jong am not very sure about him nice defensively but a poor attacker

  82. Red Arse says:


    I was also bellowing for Ghana, not that I was anti USA because they have done very well, but it was important to the WC to have an African nation go thru, and Ghana have shown great skill and athleticism.

  83. DeiseGooner says:

    I still reckon Cana would go a right good job in our midfield – hes like the anti-Denilson…..

  84. DeiseGooner says:

    Thats exactly what we need Erick – someone who cant attack so he wont try, just mop up our messes when attacks break down

  85. Red Arse says:

    Danish Gooner

    I understand your point in comparing Ozil and Jack. Wilshire does need more experience, preferably in the Arsenal team, and Ozil is the more accomplished player at the moment, well he has now played in a World Cup.

    Just did not like the way you said it earlier. Your 10:23 is better put and worth discussing. 🙂

  86. JonJon says:

    no danish

    we never suggested jack was as good as ozil

    we suggest jack wasnt a plonker…

  87. rico says:

    Erick – its easier to spell trumpet 🙂

  88. Red Arse says:


    Snap! 🙂

  89. rico says:

    How can an 18yr old be compared to a 21yr old who is already playing for his country…

    surely like for like is Theo 🙂 🙂

    ok, now shoot me down 😉

  90. Red Arse says:

    Oh Rico,

    That’s a bit harsh on Jack. 😉

  91. rico says:

    I know we’ve all gone a bit cold on Gourcuff, but Chamakh seems to think he would be perfect….

    Is it best to form a true opinion of Gourcuff during a world cup for a french team that is in shambles??

  92. rico says:

    RA :lol:, i know that you know i meant Ozil 😉

  93. JonJon says:

    i think if jack got three years of experience of tearing up a poor league he’d be shit hot as well…

    not saying that ozil isnt class cos he is but dont underestimate jack…the boys got skills to pay the bills its just the PL is a difficult league to learn your trade

    give jack the chance and games that denilson eboue diaby all got then im sure in two years he’d be in the england squad…

  94. ArsenalDK says:

    a high scoring, entertaining match with plenty of goals.?

    Well it’s good it’s not a high scoring match with few goals 😉

  95. JonJon says:


    the reason i first suggested gourcuff is coz him and chamkakakaka were a good combo at bordeux..

    my beef now is that i dont want any french player at arsenal

    they have attitude problems and they no longer have the skills they used to…the french have always been moody but they were goood enough to get away with it…

    not no more…

  96. rico says:

    jj, spot on, that goes back to the old cliche

    ‘if hes good enough he’s old enough’

    Jack imho is old enough, had he been given a chance week in week out, even from the bench we wouldn’t even be thinking about Joe Cole, Jack can do, and will do a better job than him if only he got a chance…

    same old wenger, stick with the crap and don’t give the real talent a chance…

    I know you don’t rate Theo, but i’m starting to believe those ex top players who are blaming wenger for his lack of progress…

  97. Jenkinson says:

    I don’t think Arsene would balk at £20m – he’s very much his type of player, two-footed and multi-positional; a playmaker who can score goals.
    Suppose we get £5m for Eduardo and sell Rosicky for a little more he won’t have to dig far into his kitty to find the rest.
    Koscielny £9m, Chamakh free, Schwarzer £4m – he hasn’t even begun yet!
    On the goalkeeper front has there been any talk of Akinfeev recently? In my book he would be far better than any of the current suggestions.

  98. Red Arse says:


    I am trying hard to disagree with something JJ says but I am finding it impossible at the mo! 🙂 and yes, I did know what you meant. More fun pretending I didn’t. 😉

    Did you see that Denis Bergkamp has allegedly (another rumour) recommended Ajax’s Danish midfielder, Kristian Erickson, to Arsenal? BUT Manure, Chelski, Barca yada, yada, are all also on his case. Raised hopes? Then reality kicks in! 😦

  99. DeiseGooner says:

    I also feel losing Eduardo might see the making of Wilshire as it frees up a spot for him on the bench and he can become Arshavins understudy

  100. JonJon says:

    yeah but theo got no skills..never has had never will have…

    i no ppl try to defend theo but when you pay 12 mil for a 16 year old and all you get in return is a lucky run v liverpool you start to think hang on a minute!!!!

    hes been with us 4 years and he still cant control a football….

    thats not down to wenger or where he plays him..theo just cant play…

    kick and run like the fast kids use in the playground dont work in the PL.

  101. Red Arse says:

    Good point DG.

    But like everyone else I am sad for Dudu. That injury has wrecked him. 😦

  102. Erick says:

    JJ am forced to say we don’t need Joe Cole we have Jack who should be getting more playing time and we can spend the wages for Cole do get ourselves a real DM i wouldn’t mind Annan either 🙂

  103. JonJon says:

    i told ya im always right RA 😉

  104. rico says:

    RA, can’t believe you have just said that, jj is bad enough without you agreeing with him 😉 😉

    jj, theo has gone backwards, telling ya, its down to the coaching staff, and on this one i’m right 🙂 🙂

  105. rico says:

    I saw that about the Dane, he’s 18 though… we need a 28 year old 🙂

  106. DeiseGooner says:

    Ah yeah Red, im totally gutted for Eduardo. He did look like he could have become a quality player for us. But you know its true that since the injury hes never really recovered mentally. So any shance he might have had is now gone i feel. Hes not so supremely skilled that he can afford to lose any of the weapons in his armoury and expect to make it. A 100% Eduardo yes but nothing less

  107. JonJon says:


    i would counter that by saying jack could learn from cole and develop quicker 😉

    jack is the new joe cole..i remember when joe first came through at wham and everyone was comparing him to gazza…

    and gazza was very special..cole aint done too bad either..jack hopefully will make the same name

  108. DeiseGooner says:

    And while you could make a case for keeping Eduardo and hope he sorts his head out – i feel he is but holding back either using Theo as a striker (his eventual position) and/or Jackie Boy appearences in the first team

  109. Red Arse says:

    Great postings this a.m. guys!

    Off for a bit, see you later.

  110. Erick says:

    DG on the Dudu front i may be emotional in my suggestion but have always though we owe him a season he still has it and just need our support JJ am not sure Jack would be around if we get Cole he said he won’t be warming the bench he is better off at bolton

  111. rico says:

    Cheers RA, see you later after two England wins 🙂 🙂

  112. K-TR7 says:

    Morning all.Ozil is a player i have watched for a long time.When he moved to Bremen from Schalke he struggled to breakthrough because of Diego who was the main man.in diego’s final season he was drafted to the wings and was one of the main reasons bremen mnade the UEFA cup final where diego missed out due to suspension.In the u-21 championships he held the Gerrman creative mantle leading them, to glory after destroying England in the final.

    Rico i recommended the player here a few months ago after watching him alot.the only issue i have with him is his lack of stamina and upper body strength which would be an issue in the EPL.otherwise he is a superb player who is very consistent and would improve any team.

  113. rico says:

    Good point about Jack and Cole Erick, Jack has made it clear he’s ready, he doesn’t want splinters…

  114. rico says:

    Morning ktr7, jj reminded me earlier…

    Today will be interesting, Ozil will be up against possibly the best LB in the world right now (pains me to write that) should be a good battle…

  115. K-TR7 says:

    Jambo erick.habari ya Nairobi?Ghana waendelee kupeperusha bendera ya Africa juu!!!siku njema…

  116. Erick says:

    Cheers RA have a good one Howdy K-tr7 the price tag would be an obstacle as always to our club

  117. DeiseGooner says:

    I know what you mean Erick, hes a gooner and maybe he deserves a chance and maybe Wenger will give him that chance – but – look at it another way and say wo has a better chance of become a top top player now – Eduardo or Jack? And without playing time Jack will take longer

  118. K-TR7 says:

    Rico ozil plays quite central.he will be up against barry.lahm and muller will be up against cole.

  119. robert says:

    Özil is a really good game, the two recent games he has performed in are not the only ones.

    Last year in the u21 cup I saw him, and I said “he will be one of the stars in the world cup”..

    I have also cept my eyes on him for bremen, sure sometimes he gets isolated, but he will be a fantastic player in a few years and Wenger should do everything to sign him..

  120. useroz says:

    ozil v wilshere??
    c’mon, besides the age diff, jack’s a good 5,6 inches shorter!
    and yes, i’d rather have a 6′ german than the assorted junior french and africans that we are being linked to…
    and we have the money

  121. DeiseGooner says:

    Jack being a case for not signing Cole too – i agree

  122. JonJon says:

    phillip lahm

    now theres a german id have in our team..

    shit hot left back or right back

    and hes still only 26..

  123. Erick says:

    K-tr7 🙂 🙂 that slang is from the street you got to be from Nairobi Ghana wamefanya mambo jo

  124. rico says:

    ktr7, the game i saw him play, against the aussies, he was out on the right i’m sure…

  125. rico says:

    i’m not convinced about the german team just yet – i’m looking forward to todays game…

    its ok to turn it on against ten men, but…..

    what does make me laugh though is the pundits rave about them being a young side full of talent…

    the same pundits who say arsenal wont win anything with youth….

  126. K-TR7 says:

    Erick i know kiswahili quite well.kama vipusa kwenye mtandao huu waweza kuzungumza kihispania mbona tusiongee kiswahili?Annan ni mchezaji bora.

  127. rico says:

    West Ham United goalkeeper Robert Green is being lined up to replace Mark Schwarzer at Fulham, with the Australian international poised to complete a move to Arsenal.

    According to the News of the World, Gunner’s chief Arsene Wenger has opted to bring in a short-term solution to his goalkeeping problem this summer, by replacing the mercurial Manuel Almunia with 37-year-old shot-stopper Schwarzer.

  128. rico says:

    Have to pop off for a bit,my fridge is empty and theres footie later 😉

    back shortly

  129. Erick says:

    DG am sure jack is destined to make it but Dudu is the now we are crying for. Lahm directness to the game is awesome would have him any day

  130. K-TR7 says:

    rico ozil plays behind klose and when tightly marked he drifts out wide allowing khedira to push forward using raw power.kind of like how rosicky/AA are played out wide where they can get more space to operate.nowadays central midfield areas are overcrowded due to development of defensive midfielders and its one of the main reasons why there has been a decline in no.10’s such as Rui costa.Due to this the modern breed of no.10’s play as wing forwards:cr9,messi,robben,AA…are modern no.10’s.



  131. Erick says:

    K-tr7 you must from be from around here your swahili is perfect man where are you from am thinking Tanzania

  132. K-TR7 says:

    Manchester City midfielder Nigel De Jong is set to be ushered to the exit at Eastlands should manager Roberto Mancini land Yaya Toure from Barcelona.

    According to the Sunday Mirror, despite arrvining from Hamburg only 17 months ago in a £16 million deal, the Dutch international will be sacrificed to allow Mancini’s top summer transfer target to gain a starting role.

    If City do sign Toure, City would have four defensive midfielders on their books with Gareth Barry, Patrick Vieira and Vincent Kompany all being deployed in that role.

    Such a scenario would make De Jong surplus to requirements, but with no shortage of potential suitors for his services, he could find himself on the move again this summer.

    Mancini has set about putting together a plan to bring the best possible stars available to the Citizens this summer, in preparation for next season’s attempt to break into the Champions League, while having a major clear-out of his squad.

    City are also reportedlt interested in Barcelona full-back Dani Alves, valued at £40m. Any deal for Alves’ will allow Mancini to listen to offers for youngsters Micah Richards and Nedum Onuoha, with Tottenham Hotspur, Sunderland and Everton ready to battle it out for their signatures.

    It is also believed that James Milner’s arrival from Aston Villa would also have consequences for fans’ favourite Shaun Wright-Phillips.

    With the antcipated arrival of the England star, and Valencia’s David Silva, it would appear to signal the end of both Wright-Phillips’ and Stephen Ireland’s time at Eastlands.i wouldn’t mind him…

  133. K-TR7 says:

    im not Tanzanian erick but good guess.im a fast learner and i want to add spanish and french to my CV…


  134. Erick says:

    Man city is a sinking ship they will always be splashing the cash until they succes player will be coming and going each season Aw has his problems but he knows what he is up to

  135. DeiseGooner says:

    Eduardo is the now? But thats the problem i feel – the now Eduardo isnt what the THEN Eduardo was – and even at that he wasnt a fit replacement for Henry

  136. Erick says:

    Am not good in languages K-tr7 English, Swahili plus my mother tongue but your kiswahili is perfect mate you got have a local helping you

  137. Erick says:

    DG am keeping the Faith at the end of the season Aw said he was showing some form of his old self hope he has been working at the closed season

  138. K-TR7 says:

    Thanks erick.i scored highly in swahili.where in Nairobi are you from?westlands,kile,Ngara,Kitengela.southB/C?…im a frequent Nairobi visitor.

  139. sleepinggiant234 says:

    No. Some of us who are advocating Ozil are doing so for reasons far beyond the World Cup. What about his nine goals and twelve assists in the Bundesliga last year? Or his starring performance in the Eurpo U-21s? The World Cup is only telling the rest of the world whas some of us already suspected. This guy is probably the finest young creative talent in Europe. If, no, when Cesc leaves, he is the only man to replace him (er… well him or, at a push, Gorcouff, but not some unknown). And I know most of us would like more experienced players. I think that should be a factor, but not at the expense of ignoring talent like this. Certainly it shouldnt propell us to sign Joe bloody Cole to replace our captain. And its rather strange to quote Arsene not siging anyone purely on the strength of the world cup – we know at this stage to be dubious about his pronouncements (Superquality signings etc). Actions speak louder than words and we are the only club I can think of who actually have signed someone purely on World Cup performances. Gilberto anyone?

    The stories about Dudu are sad, possibly untrue, but the outcome is inevitable. Given the new squad limitations, someone will have to leave and the poor guy really did go backwards at the end of last year. I for one will miss him, not for anything he actually achieved – I don’t think he was that good even before his injury – but his signing really did excite me. His Brazillian origin and record for Croatia made him a rare exotic sigiing. If I were Arsene, I would try to farm him out to Ajax for a year…their strikers always score for fun, and it might just give him his confidence back. But he’s no youngster, and he really doesn’t have much time to get it together, but he so deserves a turn of good luck.

    And, lastly, please dont let the stories about us gettig Koscielny be true. It appears that Spuds are in talks to sign Kjaer!!!!! Why is it that, not being content to lag behind Manure and Chavski, we must also stand back and let some new Champions league upstarts snap up what appear to be quality while we look for new depths at the bottom of the barrel. Depressing.

  140. gnarleygeorge9 says:

    Good luck England 😀

    rico you’ve changed your avatar 😉

  141. gambon says:

    Ive wanted us to sign Ozil for 2 years now.

    I think basing opinions on international football is stupid, you’ll end up with Kleberson, Poborsky & Jon Jensen in your team!!

    The amount of stupid comments ive seen based around the last 2 weeks is remarkable.

  142. JonJon says:

    bonjour ktr 😉

    je voudraid un citris glace sil vous plais!!

    or something like that. 😉

  143. JonJon says:


    you forget el hadj diouf!!!!

    i was hoping diaby would catch the eye and someone would give us 30mil for him 😉

  144. Erick says:

    K-tr7 am from Umo aka umoja its in eastlands man you sound so local so am sure you know Mariga of inter and Oliech

  145. sleepinggiant234 says:

    Jon jon,

    Good one…HAve to admit I was doing the same! Im still holding out hope for Vela to have a stormer and those bloody Catalans to recognise that he has Barcelona in his DNA.

  146. Erick says:

    JJ Diouf is a hot headed player

  147. JonJon says:

    hes also shit, erick 😉

    had a couple of decent games in wc and liverpool thought they got the next george weah.

    turned out to be more like george foremann

  148. Baz says:

    Is ramsey not the same kind of player as ozil?

  149. K-TR7 says:

    of course erick.they are local heroes.

  150. rico says:

    Hi all

    george, i think we will need it, yes, it’s now ‘the paw of god’ – just for the world cup 🙂 🙂

  151. Erick says:

    Here i was thinking Rico is the mystery then K-tr7 comes and makes the word mystery an understatement lol I must be dreaming 🙂 🙂

  152. rico says:

    30M jj, what in Turkish notes 🙂 🙂

    Told you Erick, i’m no mystery, i’m simples 🙂

  153. Erick says:

    Rico I should have believed you forgive me 😉 😉

  154. Red Arse says:

    Hi Rico

    Just back when I realised the F1 is on, so got to go again.

    Have just emailed you again. Habit forming! 😉

    Will be back later Erick, K-T to break up your love in! 🙂

  155. Erick says:

    Rico 🙂 hope it my apology is accepted 😉 Agag must have had one too many she aint here yet

  156. Erick says:

    RA am amazed by K-tr7 his swahili is local be good RA and stay away from GG

  157. rico says:

    F1, i can’t stand that RA, one of the few sports i dislkie 😦

    You have nowt to appologise for Erick 🙂

  158. dilshan says:

    will be sad to see Dudu leave but I guess its business and nothing personal…will always be remembered fondly ( with a big what if) by almost all arsenal fans am sure..

    Ozil has been good but surely we have Nasri, Cesc, Risiky( when fit) and Whilshire all play that role and as good if not better..the player who has impressed me most well I have been impressed by 2 actually, Anthony Annan, ..he looks like with the guidance of AW could become one of the best in the world, I know we have song, but I feel Annan will become better as well as add a hard tackling dimension to our midfield and the other is Jonathan Mensah..I know he has made a couple of mistakes but there is some thing about this kid, he is only 19 and again will develop into one of the finest CB in the game, pace, power and now being part of this WC will gain great experience and maturity…these two will find their values multiply now but I feel we should try and get at least one if not both of them

  159. rico says:

    Hi dilshan,

    i think we all would be sad, he was just hitting great form before ‘that’ tackle…. our good old fashioned No9

  160. rico says:

    Arsenal in race against time for Anthony Annan
    Published 00:00 11/08/08

    Arsenal boss Arsene Wenger faces a race against time to sign Anthony Annan.

    Wenger has contacted the Ghanaian’s Norwegian club Start to sign the £1.5million-rated midfielder.

    2008 – 1.5 million, you can add a bit more to that valuation now!!

  161. Erick says:

    Dishan I totally agree Annan for me is top class and he rarely get booked yet he wins the ball pretty well Rico 🙂 😉 am trying to be nice just accept it 🙂

  162. rico says:

    all accepted Erick… 😉

  163. Erick says:

    Thanks Ric’s 🙂

  164. Red Arse says:


    You probably already know, we have bowled out the Aussies for 212. Yay!! 🙂

    You were right again! 😉

  165. rico says:

    Hi RA,

    I have been watching very closely, great finish by Jimmy the Gooner 🙂

    Wasnt too far off, eh, not bad for a woman!! 😉

  166. Red Arse says:

    Not too bad for anyone Rico! 🙂

  167. rico says:

    😆 RA, I even know that Webber has had a crash in the F1 😉

  168. rico says:

    I’m off to watch a little footie match 😉 😉

    back later…

  169. rico says:

    I cant believe this game……

  170. Red Arse says:


    The England defence is a disgrace, the mid-field are clueless, we should be down 4:0 and yet we have been robbed of an equaliser. Go figure! 😦

    Agag, ma cherie, ou est tu? Donde estas, querida?

  171. rico says:

    RA, what a shower of shite…..

  172. Kiri says:

    Looks like Ur view of oezill is wrong. Would make arsenal a title winning team.

  173. rico says:

    was he really that good today?????

  174. Red Arse says:

    How true, Rico, how true! 😦 A view previously stated by JJ, so that’s unanimous then.

    I think Gerrard, Lampard and Barry should never play for England again!! And if Wenger even thinks of buying Upson, I will emigrate! 😦

  175. Red Arse says:


    I had previously thought Ozil is a good player, but what I saw today which impressed me was his pace.

    He showed both Cole and Johnson a clean pair of heels and was always available for the “out ball”. But then even I would look good against that shower.

  176. Danish Gooner says:

    If ozil fails to do it at PL level anyone will.

  177. rico says:

    RA, I thought Ozil was good for the first half hour after that he went missing….

    I always touted for Upson, but he was shocking just shocking, mind you they all were bar James…

    I am so glad Theo Walcott was not part of that defeat, and why oh why when you need a goal does Heskey come on….

  178. Red Arse says:


    I am just watching Ozil blasting away from Barry, having given him a 5 metre start, before squaring the ball for their 4th goal.


  179. agirlagunner says:

    Hola! rico the first captioned man is a star. Unfortunately, we won’t be able to afford him now. I thought Oezil was involved in most of Germany’s best plays. I was surprised by his speed and I like that he seems imperturbable too.

    You know my feelings on Dudu. I hope we keep him another year. If we keep him and he recovers his form before injury, we’d reap the reward for patience and we would be able to sell him at a better price next season or the one after.

    Barry was utter rubbish. I’m glad we did not buy him.

  180. rico says:

    RA, ok, you got me for that one, but as you just said, you and i could look good against that England side today, that has to be one of the worst performances we have seen in ages…

    thankfully we should not see many of them in the next WC…

  181. agirlagunner says:

    Je suis ici, RA. Tu es enfin de retour! rico and i were worried yesterday, you know. 🙂

  182. jaygooner says:

    The Eddy story is nonsense. It is all conjecture. However, if it pans out to be true, Taylor should be banned for ruining a great players career. That will not happen though, my best guess is Dudu will go on loan to rebuild confidence and get playing time. Maybe the French League as a sweetener to get Gourcuff. It would serve both teams purpose.

  183. Red Arse says:


    It’s good you are here. (sighs meditatively).

    You see I was just slipping back into your style! 🙂

    Je n’avais jamais quitte vous! 😉

    I sent Rico an email to explain as I think there was a misunderstanding, and my rotten computer was on the blink again.

    If Rico has your email address, perhaps she can send a copy on to you. (sucks on pen and regrets the need for computers) 🙂

    You are absolutely right about Barry!

  184. rico says:

    Hey agag, did you watch England play their hearts out 😦

    RA, for sure i will forward your email…

  185. rico says:

    jay, i think it would be better for Dudu, not that i want him to go. His career has been left it tatters by that iriot Taylor…..

  186. Red Arse says:

    Rico, Agag,

    After I fixed my computer, I looked in on Avenell after lunch and my worst fears were confirmed. There hadn’t been a gooner fan on it for hours.

    The post had sent them ALL to sleep! 🙂

  187. Red Arse says:

    Jay, I sympathise with Dudu, of course, but unfortunately I think he has lost his pace. And that never comes back. 😦

  188. Shrek says:

    Hey guys, just watched the match while eating dinner, I am very happy about the result. No offense to any of you Englishmen, the English team were quite outclassed although the refereeing regarding that Lampard “goal” was very poor. But it happens in tournaments like these especially in the big games. We all should get used to the unexpected. I believe one of the main reasons England fails is their lack of composure on the ball IMO and a serious lack of dribbling abilities. By dribbling I don’t mean just outrunning the defenders with the ball ( which IMO is what Gerrard does ), it also means having the ability to maze their way past 2-3 defenders at one time . The English lack such a player currently. Most top teams barring Germany have one , Messi for Argentina; Kaka / Robinho for Brazil, Le Winker for Portugal etc and so on…. . This lack of ability of the Englishmen often weakens them in their club sides and thats why they have foreign players with their superlative dribbling skills for this. But there is a small plus point here that this makes them practice long shots a lot which they are quite good at. Lampard is very much an example of this.
    Now onto Arsenal matters , I believe Ozil has very much upped his own value right out of Arsenal’s reach. I doubt Wenger would pay over the odds for him. Although 1 player I would like from Germany is either Khedira/ Per Mertesacker. The former would be a great companion to Fabregas/ his replacement in midfield. The latter would be a good right footed companion to the Verminator and he seems very calm on the ball, although I would like to see him pit his wits against the likes of Messi and other top class talent to see whether he can keep pace with them.

  189. Red Arse says:

    Shrek, can’t disagree with any of that!

    Rico what are they doing at Old Trafford? Another cock up? 😦

  190. agirlagunner says:

    RA, haha. The red velvet cupcake was little help. We’d have missed you for sure, if you”d gone desaperecido on us. 🙂

    My writing can never be anything other than parenthetical, I am afraid. I hope your knee is good.

    rico, the England NT was a shambles. A right debacle, that! I am glad Theo had no part in that pitiful display. Where on earth was Rooney?

  191. rico says:

    Shrek, me neither, no disagreement here….. 😦

    RA, too confident, can’t believe how the last few wickets have gone….

  192. rico says:

    agag, he should have been in england in the physio room, he’s not fit…

  193. rico says:

    agag, i have sent you RA’s email…

  194. Red Arse says:

    Rico the tension is getting to me.

    Agag, I hope you give me permission to ocassionally use Agag-isms? (down on knees, including dodgy one, pleadingly) 😉

  195. Suhail.TV says:

    Hello every one… The Germans made England looked like North korea

  196. Red Arse says:

    Hi Suhail, what do you mean? I thought that was N.Korea. 🙂

  197. rico says:

    Hi STV, The Germans mad England look like Oxford 😉 😉

  198. rico says:

    8 down RA, 10 needed 😦 😦

  199. Red Arse says:

    Rico, I have got to go and lie down in a dark room. England have lost their 8th wicket. 😦


  200. jaygooner says:

    @suhail the germans made england look like san marino. hahaha easily the biggest put down in football history. The mouthy england were going to shove Beckenbaurs words right back down his throat? Hahahaha The Kaiser was being honest and helpful, the arrogant english didnt listen and got thumped. Well done Germany, lets hop The Mighty Arsenal have Ozil already in the bag, yeah I know. not likely aaah well OOOOH TO BE A GOONER

  201. agirlagunner says:

    Shrek, there’s no one singularly spectacular player in the England NT now. (I hate to say this, but…) Rooney would have been it, except… he wasn’t.

    rico, Rooney looked fit enough; but his mind seemed to be elsewhere; no killer instinct surprisingly, and he was drifting into all sorts of odd positions.

    Hola, STV. Your comment is funny. 🙂

  202. Suhail.TV says:

    Hello RA, Who was it Shwaan, anderson,.. ??

  203. Suhail.TV says:

    Hello Agag, don’t you know!! Rooney could be very good.. But capello made a mistake by failing to imprint a Man utd logo on the england shirt.

  204. Red Arse says:

    Suhail, the last pair are in, Anderson and Bresnan.

    They need 8 runs from 8 balls. Unbelievable! 😦

  205. rico says:

    Telling ya, Rooney was not fit 😉

    RA, you watching……….. :mrgreen:

  206. Red Arse says:

    Yay YAAAAY We’ve done it Rico!!!!! 🙂 🙂

  207. agirlagunner says:

    Thanks, rico. 🙂

    I have read the email, RA. All’s well that ends well, I think. And I was not upset at all. These days only the Human Vuvuzelas (from the Camp Nou assembly line of motormouths) upset me.

    lol @ jaygooner.

  208. rico says:

    thats like watching arsenal score the winner in the 95th minute RA 🙂

  209. rico says:

    agag, did you see the side bar, monsieur laporta in the widgets??

  210. Red Arse says:


    Agag is right all’s well that ends well. 🙂

    Am off down the pub to celebrate/drown one’s sorrow.

    Jaygooner, I regret that you presumably think I am mouthy and arrogant as I am English. Bit harsh. 😦

  211. Shrek says:

    Hey agag, good to see you again. Regarding your comment I’d say the one of the main reasons for this would be the press. The moment a young English player with even a small ounce of talent shows up , they are the first ones to glorify him as the 2nd coming of Pele himself. I myself recall Rooney being glorified as Roonaldooooo!!! ( The Brazilian one)when he scored his screamer against us in 2002; but he’s a very good player. Even players like Milner are overhyped a lot. He’s good , but not that good. Such guys only succeed in the EPL, not in any other top class league. This hype only puts more pressure on them .

  212. agirlagunner says:

    I have, rico. I thought I had complimented you on it. LOL. I haaaate him. He’s Father Stain and Xavi his Heir Apparent. 🙂

  213. rico says:

    jay, please tell us you were referring to the england camp rather than the fans….

  214. rico says:

    oops, i didnt see that, sorry, i love the fact hes in his undies and looking stupid 🙂

    And beyond Xavi there are many…. 😉

  215. rico says:

    RA, have a lovely evening, forget the footie, just drink to the fact that you wont have to see half of them in an England shirt again….

  216. Shrek says:

    Err… just another thing I wanted to add. Wenger shouldn’t really give any opinions anymore in the WC, most of his predictions have been wrong.

  217. rico says:

    Shrek, Wenger should be working, but at buying our new players, but don’t worry, but the time the next WC comes along, he’ll probably be gone 😉 😉

  218. Suhail.TV says:

    Shrek, sure, he is a great player.. The only problem today is that he Weared a non man utd shirt

  219. Red Arse says:

    Thanks, Rico, and you.

    Might not be around tomorrow, as I previously, rather stupidly mentioned, I have a prior appointment, so to speak. 😦

  220. agirlagunner says:

    Shrek, I agree. Look at Theo. 😦 Although. of course, I still hold hope that he comes good. And that Milner won the Best Young Player over our captain was an absolute farce. Please.

  221. rico says:

    Ah, yes, i’ll keep your post til tuesday, hope all goes well tomorrow RA – then its R&R for you…. 😉

  222. rico says:

    Don’t get me started on that one agag…. grrrrrr 😉

  223. Suhail.TV says:

    Agag your comments surely made Xavi’s face lurid.. and i was scared when I saw him last time.

  224. Red Arse says:


    Shhhh don’t tell Agag about the post!

    See you. 😉

  225. jaygooner says:

    @Red Arse I was stereo typing about mouthy arrogant English. But sorry sterotypically the English are mouthy and arrogant. The British media has been giving it large about how they were going to clout the krauts etc etc, if you feel I was personally attacking you? I apologise, I wouldnt do that.

  226. Red Arse says:

    No Probs, Jay. I always thought you were having a dig at the English media, and frankly I can see where you are coming from.

    They don’t represent the likes of people like Rico and myself. 🙂

  227. shedzy says:

    We were looking at Ozil about 3 years ago, and decided not to take him as we already had Cesc and Merida; now that we dont have either of those two (ok, we dont have one of them, the other one quite possibly leaving this summer) we have Ramsay and Wilshere – do we need another player in that role?

  228. Red Arse says:

    Agag, you might have already gone, but Nite to you, in case you are still around. 🙂

  229. rico says:

    They sure don’t RA 😉 Have a beer for me 🙂

    I’m offski to now, so i bid you all a very good night…

    Stay safe and see you all some time tomorrow…

    nighty night..

  230. rico says:

    Shedzy, I would say no to your question….

  231. Shrek says:

    err… Milner won what? umm…never mind… Its good that Milner won that because thats the only individual award he might probably receive in his career. See….. great players don’t worry about such small awards . As for Walcott , I have my doubts on him . There’s still time for him no doubt, & hopefully he’ll come good both for himself and club & country. But his dribbling technique is a bit weird if you all have noticed . He used to dribble better as a striker for Southampton more than as a winger for Arsenal. I believe Wenger has gone wrong there with him there. Secondly Erikson put unnecessarily unwanted attention on him by selecting him for Germany 06. Note that in a way this is similar to the great Brazilian Ronaldo getting selected for USA’94 but not playing a single game. Here the difference is he kept getting better & better and would never be considered by any coach to be in any other position than striker . Meanwhile Wenger has shifted Walcott to the wings where he only had pace to help him . This position not only demands pace but also tricks and great crossing abilities which he doesn’t possess at least for now.
    This shift in position could be in Wenger hoping that he had another Henry in the making. But sadly thats not the case. He doesn’t seem to have the ability to cut inside or outside the defender at will.

  232. agirlagunner says:

    Au revoir, RA. Have fun! I had plenty last night. Your turn now.

    On Theo, rico? Or Milner? ;P

    STV, you really are funny.

  233. agirlagunner says:

    Point well-taken, Shrek. What I noticed about Theo is that he takes too long to decide what to do with the ball. And while he dawdles, a good chance to score/make a killer cross has sped by. All that second-guessing is plain for everyone too see. It frustrates me. I do think he has a footballing brain, but he seriously needs to work on his crossing and close control.

  234. agirlagunner says:

    Niteynite, rico. Do take care. Nite, everyone!

  235. jaygooner says:

    @rico the england fans I have no problem with. Some are deluded but the majority? They spend fortunes following their National team, they deserve better, and with the bunch of kids coming through the under 19’s, they will get what they deserve, a team playing for their countrys pride, not their own gain, and in the next World Cup, a team worth watching. England 2012 European Champions 2014 World Champions? yeah I can see that, remember you heard it from me first lol

  236. mikeB says:

    It is a sad reality of our media dominated game that we will never function as a successful national team until we take away the fear.
    We see it with the players. Household names that are revered the world over fail to live up to club form… why? Because they play with fear.

    A manager with the noblest record starts his England career with freedom and verve. Two years later he is so frightened that he leaves behind his most gifted impact player, and instead plays the same tried and tested format that his failed predecessor used… why? Because he was scared to do anything else.

    Success for England is sadly unattainable in our current frenetic, Z-list celebrity crazed, and media dominated game. This has been true since the 1970 World Cup, when a media feeding-frenzy took the England Captain, one of the finest and most decent men ever to grace the game, and accused him of being a shoplifter.

    Ever since then the media has been digging up dirt, besmirching reputations, and generally interfering in the psychological well-being of our national team and its many coaches.

    I am not asking our trusted guardians of the ‘fourth estate’ not to do their jobs. What I am asking for is that they do their jobs responsibly. Until we take away the fickle interference of the British tabloid press, and the capricious and vested interests of other media outlets (Sky Sports take a bow) England will continue to fail, because they are too terrified to do anything else.

    The inconsistency of a venomous media is quite shocking. England’s hero, from the qualifiers, suddenly became an untalented spoilt brat; unable to run with the ball, unable to cross a ball, unable to create space, and without an iota of ‘footballing brain’. According to the suddenly hate-filled tabloids, he was a man doing nothing for our great England cause; and why…? Because certain vacuous individuals, with axes to grind, and vested interests in their own self-promotion, were given platforms in the tabloid press, and told us it was so. For an already fragile England team it was cancerous, mendacious, and debilitating.

    Great players don’t become bad players overnight. A great manager doesn’t become a poor manager overnight. Not unless they are hounded by the press until they are afraid to function.

    That is what we saw against Germany… A team of fine individual players, led by a great manager, unable to pass, unable to shoot, unable to cross a ball, unable to express themselves, unable to make decisions, unable to function, unable to win… and why…? Because they were too terrified of failure.

    This isn’t just about Theo Walcott; he is merely a symptom of a greater and more malignant disease, but if he and Jack Wilshere and co. go on to play for the national team they will fail too… The so-called pundits, and the rest of the rabid media in this country, with their vacuous opinions and feast and famine approach to football, won’t allow them to do anything else… Not if there’s a headline to write, and a quick buck to be made.

  237. mikeB says:

    Sry about the last post. I know you all went home but I needed to get it off my chest.

    Have a good one.

  238. rico says:

    mikeb are you still around??

  239. rico says:

    that’ll be a no then 😉 😉

  240. Shrek says:

    umm… i am here

  241. Shrek says:

    so anyone still here….?

  242. penfold says:

    What a short sighted and ignorant post about Ozil; you haven’t been watching much european/international football over the past few years, have you? He has been on the radar for a wee while now, ripped England to shreds in the Under 21s and shone in the Bundeslig. If there is genuine interest on out part it is not because of his performances in the world cup.

  243. jaygooner says:

    MikeB wow! you are so spot on with that! The media, disgustingly British media, dig the dirt, plant the poison, turn the fans and create hate. Remember Donkey Adams? That was awful but us gooners turned it and Donkey won the Derby when we beat the spuds was a song that still resonates. They perpetuated and encouraged the vile campaign against Sol, ermm he is footballer what does it matter about his sexuality, and he is getting married soon, the disgusting stuff that Wenger suffers, particularly at Old Trampford, the media encourage and whip it up. Why? my best guess is that that the hacks and presenters all wanted to play for the best team, in the world, got a trial and were told YOUR SHIT AND YOU KNOW YOU ARE HAHAHa. Ermmm thats my rant God i hate ill informed hacks and journos.

  244. g;plg says:

    i wanted ozil before the world cup,

    but thats probably cus im not from the UK and actually watch all football, not just english and realised he’s already been established as a proven player in the german league and has been highly rated for the last 3-5 years, but aye thats just me.

    let alone the fact he’s been tracked by top managers since he was 16…

    don’t comment if you dont actually watch football outside of your self-involved league

  245. rico says:

    New post up…

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