Should We Turn Back Time?

Making the Emirates Highbury revisited.

Is it good news or is it bad news? I am unsure, I quite like the fact that the clock is coming back, but in my opinion it should stop there.
We have moved stadium and we need to move on. Trying to name the stands after the famous North Bank and Clock End is a step too far.

This is our new stadium and it needs to create it’s own identity, it needs to create it’s own history. It’s a bit like getting a new girlfriend and dressing her up in your ex’s clothes.

They are trying to get the old NB v CE singing going once again. I am sure it all started when the Clock End would get the North Bank going with “North Bank, North Bank, give us a song” then they would respond and the Clock would greet that with the old Gareth Hunt hand signal..

Okay the orange/yellow, etc quadrant idea is completely stupid too, in fact there is a lot of problems with the personality of the Emirates, why not have a Rocastle End or a Chapman Stand, the supporters could either use the name provided for them by the Arsenal cooperate crew or they can make their own name up.

What annoys me the most is the Spuds up the road are learning by our mistakes, when they build, sorry IF they get around to building a new stadium ‘on-the-Marsh’ they have the advantage of seeing the pitfalls of the Emirates. (on their turnover £117 million )

The problem with the atmosphere I would say is to do with all the noisy supporters getting seats next to quieter strangers, when the real North Bank was chugging it used to fire up a group of about 50 like-minded supporters or so perched right in the middle behind the goal, they would start it off, it normally started with a song that involved just clapping and few words just as a warm up. Then as the pubs emptied friends would choose where to stand and start joining in. It was infectious. This cannot happen anymore thanks to the Bindippers.

As for putting a 25p flag or a scarf from a scuzzy shop on the seat for when the new age fan arrives is pathetic, how old do the club think the supporters are? If you love your club and want to wear the colours there are plenty of shops and market stalls outside.. It isn’t the Jubilee, it’s a football match. Oh and not a theatre or a night at the movies, I keep hearing we have the highest priced tickets in the world, yet at half time there is a mass exodus to the snack bars.. You only have to sit for 105 minutes, why do you have to shove something in your gob?? Stay and keep singing, have some banter with the away supporters.

Just to put icing on the cake, we have the most entertaining team in the Premiership and perhaps in the world, yet it must be a nearly a third of the supporters leave early, I used to wait all week to watch that magic 90 minutes of footie and I have never left early, if I had to I would walk for half hour or so if need be to find a station where I never had to queue, find a pub or I would shoot into the old amusement arcade at Finsbury Park for a while. Even after night games in the cup that went into extra time when I had 30 miles to travel home I would stay for the duration.. If you cannot spend an extra 30 mins for the Arsenal.. well..

What is the answer to the atmosphere in the Emirates, all I know is since the game has been priced out of the hands of the young working classes it isn’t the same.
The Dippers and the Geordies have the most ferocious fans and they come from some of the poorest areas of the country, is this a coincidence?

West Ham if they get the Olympic stadium after the government have wasted millions building it and the ‘ammers reduce their prices to an affordable level will be an interesting experiment..
What will the atmosphere there be like?

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134 Responses to Should We Turn Back Time?

  1. rico says:

    Morning all, Im off to read the post

  2. Hear Hear. Great post. Too long I’ve been fed up of seeing 3rd rate supporters coming to the ground (10 minutes late) and then leaving 10 minutes early. Is it any wonder why the players sometimes lack the effort when a large portions of fans can’t wait 10 minutes?

    Also would be nice to see the clock above block 6 where the largest majority of “singing” supporters are although I’d be quite happy for it to go over the South end as well.

  3. rico says:

    Nice one ave, I didn’t get to Highbury as much as I wanted, travel, money and time prevented that along with that silly thing in life called work!

    I used to love hearing all the banter between the CE and NB, it bought the ground alive..

    Sadly I don’t get the Emirates much either but from watching the televised games its does seem somewhat quieter than the dippers, mancs and many other stadium of fans.

    When I read about the changes to being considered I thought most fans would be happy, but your view about moving on has given me food for thought…

  4. rico says:

    Morning rant, welcome to Avenell Road.

    I ceratinly don’t get why people leave early – not only because it costs money but often the last ten minutes of a game are the most exciting. Take the weekend, I know we were away, but we won the game in the last ten minutes, I wouldn’t have wanted to miss that…

  5. rico says:

    When I used to go to Highbury on a Saturday afternoon, after the final whistle I would take a wander down the road to a little Mexican restaurant, half price meal between 5-7pm. The food was wonderful and then my journey home was stress free. By train I hasten to add, Mexican Beer would not allow me to drive 🙂

  6. Erick says:

    Ave nyc post i feel the huge ask is left in the hands of the club to lower the ticket for the fans especially now that we are so close to wining the EPL the atmosphere should be up a few million Decibles

  7. Personally I find it worse when it’s obvious we’re going to win, say when we’re 2 or 3 up. Surely they should be staying behind to show their appreciation for a good performance. I know it’s obvious it’s benefited us and had to be done but in a way I wish we’d stayed at Highbury. At least when we were there we knew all the supporters were genuine as only those in the know could get hold of tickets. There was a lot more to be said for the atmosphere as well.

  8. Erick says:

    Pardon me Morning Friends the piece took me away

  9. rico says:

    Morning Erick, nice idea, but our club woudn’t entertain that thought, but nothing like a loud crowd to see you through.

    rant – good comment, didnt the club say something similar a while ago, I just don’t get why fans would leave either way.

    I would rather we stayed at Highbury, we used to sign real quality players then 😉

  10. Morning all
    Great post ave
    im all for renaming the stands
    yes we should move on but lets not forget where we come from.
    like the sound of the clock & rocastle ends.
    what about a Aresne stand and chapman stand.
    alot better than the colour crap that is in now i hear that most people get lost.

    As for leaving before the end is not just about entertainment it about respect after the game is when you can actually get the full attention of the lads.
    and give them your full praise.

    this is what your missing if you dont stay after the game.

  11. rico says:

    Morning rsd, good comment, the right balance is needed, bit of history added to the future..

  12. Erick says:

    Rant i personally have never been to an Arsenal game but when we sit to watch it on tv we shout,jump when we score but the Emirates i have to say is too low even Teams like hull and Stoke know what to do to take the crowd off the game

  13. rico says:

    I bet if you did though Erick, you wouldn’t leave before the final whistle..

  14. Erick says:

    Mornin RSD Rico is having some Mexican Beer 🙂 🙂

  15. Erick says:

    Rico am making plans to make the trip next year i will be the last one to leave the stadium

  16. rico says:

    Ha ha Erick, bit too early for me, give it a hour or two 😉

  17. rico says:

    That sounds fab Erick, bet you can’t wait – make sure you bring some warm clothing…

  18. rico says:

    rsd – it was in my tale of going to Highbury and how to avoid the queues..

  19. Erick says:

    Yap RSD Mexican Rico i will can i bring you some wild fruits 🙂 🙂

  20. rico says:

    That sounds interesting Erick… All legal fruit I hope 😉

  21. Erick says:

    🙂 i suppose Rico where can i get details on an affordable accomodation like 3 nights

  22. rico says:

    Other than the Internet, I am not sure – i’m poss not the best person to ask really as i am not in london. ave might be able to help out, he used to up around the big city..

  23. Erick says:

    Okay i will try and talk to Ave so what do you think abt Wenger signing Melo from Juve what would be Songs Fate

  24. soz rico was just scaning the post have home work lol
    I nb McGonagall’s sweetshop on the corner of Gillespie Road usually had a Gunner or two in there. Usually Liam Brady

  25. rico says:

    dont stay in london though Erick, the prices are hideous, your best to stay out of the city and be near to the tube/train

  26. if he’s coming to london rico he might as well see the whole lot you can get a cheap place around paddington
    aint the best looking place but is cheap like a score a night
    sorry £20

  27. W.A.T.H says:

    Proper post Ave you just forgot to mention Gemima and Tarquin stuck at the bar getting their free glass of wine and prawn sandwich and then rushing off ten mins before the end to get first in the “Q” for the free goodies……

    Morning all….!

  28. rico says:

    Apparently AW has said we wre in for him but we were outpriced Erick, mixed reviews on him, I think he would be good for Song and for us.. we need two HM/DM’s, and then that would mean NO Denilson 😉

    No worries rsd

    I have to pop out for an hour, back shortly

  29. morn wath

    hasnt melo signed a new deal in the summer erick
    i know he aint happy there but would cost a penny or two

  30. so u busy getting this post ready wath of johnny come latelys and plastics?

  31. W.A.T.H says:

    He only just joined Juventus this past summer RSD he’s not looked happy since he been there….! Maybe a nother smoke screen from AW…?!?!?!?!

  32. W.A.T.H says:

    No mate can I really be arsed…. def not….! It’s just a sign of the times and it’s not likely to change until they find something else that tickles their tail feathers and they go “support” another new fad sorry I mean team…!

  33. u know AW all smoke and mirrors in the transfer market
    i think he says he’ll sign a player just to make sure prices will be high for others
    AW only signs people when you dont hear nothing about it
    only nasri and AA
    have come in when there’s been loads of media coverage

  34. You’ll just have to wait for the next andrew lloyd webber to come out
    then we might have a gate of 60000 😉
    as usual but with all the empty seats in the suits seats

  35. Erick says:

    The buy out clause would make AW sweat but i like Melo’s attitude a fighter £20 a night RSD mmmh

  36. W.A.T.H says:

    RSD, lets not get into the ppl that fill the soulless bowl….! Amazes me why you would pay 50quid to mist a quarter of the game tunring up late and leaving early….! Utterly pathetic…!.

  37. W.A.T.H says:

    Think my fingers have been on that free wine…!

  38. Erick says:

    WATH true disgusting guess they should have a policy no movement during the games

  39. W.A.T.H says:

    They can’t stop anyone moving Erick it just shows the kind of ppl that go to watch footie these days…!

  40. would say it was soulless
    put would be interesting to seem how many turned up if we got a standing terrace back just on end
    the people from hilsborough foundation said they have no objections
    and there is nothing in the stanley report about all standing terraces being bad it was nore due to bad policing.
    As for the late arrivals and early leavers it is london
    even i used to have trouble getting to places on time the fucking cc zone makes it even worse.
    still not an excuse.
    mostly because so call “supporters” arnt living it anymore just used to be away of life you turn up meet all the guys talk about everything then squezze in and hopefully catch a glimpse of something half decent.

  41. Erick says:

    So sad WATH its time real fans got back to the stadium atleast travelling fan crunk it up

  42. W.A.T.H says:

    Thing is though the fact that so many fans cant get in cant afford to go been priced out of going those proper fans are outside in the pubs watching and the ones who go take it for granted are fickle dont get passionate at all and then dont really support the team they go cos football is trendy…! crock of shit…! Look at the atmosphere for the games in the youth cup when the prices are a fiver and you can pay on the door, 40,000 locals kids with Dad etc etc and the place is rocking….! every picture tells a story, its not just terracing it who’s in the place..!

  43. W.A.T.H says:

    Thing is though Erick the prices now stop Dad’s taking kids its just to expensive simple as that…! so many many real fans cant go…! also they dont wanna go when the place is filled with idiots and plastics..!

  44. but wath it no co-inky-dink that since the norf bank was rebuilt and the prem started the place has got quieter and prices higher.
    you would think it was plan set by the premier league and fa to sanitise football and make it the coporate show piece it is today.

    it is a sad state of affairs when a dad cant take his son to see the team he loves
    for me it always a special treat
    when i was a kid of me uncle taking me.

  45. Erick says:

    I hear you WATH tough 😦

  46. W.A.T.H says:

    Ur right RSD….. it’s sanitised and watered down….! Why are the stewards like the gestapo..? obviously cos thats what they are told to clamp down on by the club…???? hence the club are happy with no passion and no intimidating atmosphere..?!?!?!?

  47. maybe we need to send in some double agents as stewards and take over from inside

  48. W.A.T.H says:

    You never know what might happen in the future but for me the fans have to take things into their own hands and make the place more intimidating and the atmosphere better but again catch 22 when the jcl’s a re happy to sit there and go Arsenal Arsenal ra ra ra…..!!

  49. just nb to take your rattle next time

  50. right swedish school beckons
    see you guys the next time
    always a pleasure……

  51. W.A.T.H says:

    B good RSD……………

  52. K-TR7 says:

    Morning,anyone watch Brazil yesterday would see what i posted yesterday.in the first half they were poor,defending deep but they didn’t concede,they scored on the counter.in the second half they played with flair and the second half typified the’joga bonito’style of football;the second goal was an art only seen in computer games.Robinho plays so well for Brazil,Melo is just a taller denilson.R80 may not make the squad because he doesn’t track back since he isn’t athletic enough for Dunga’s system.Diaby is back in training and may feature against Burnley which is good news.

  53. Erick says:

    Nice review never watched yesterdays game but i have to disagree with you on Melo being a taller Denilson he is nothing close to Crab he give alot both in attack and defence and his attitude is close to TV

  54. K-TR7 says:

    Erick-watch melo at juve and you’ll see what am talking about.juve fans want him out,he does have the occassional good game but against top sides he struggles and Gilberto is there to baby sit him.Brazil are like a combination of fulham and arsenal,they can defend and attack just as well which spain can’t do.

  55. Erick says:

    K-TR7 i have never watched him play for Juve but during the confederation cup i watched him a good number of times and he seemed world class

  56. K-TR7 says:

    Erick-in the confeds he was playing against south africa and new zealand which are poor teams giving him space to pick a pass.i watched him against milan,inter,bayern in the cl where he was anonymous when they were eliminated,his own fans boo him,he nearly quit in january.when teams don’t allow him space to pick a pass he makes rash decisions,errors and sloppy passes,thats why in Brazil squad he has to play with Gilberto in the dm role since he can’t be trusted to do it on his own.

  57. Erick says:

    K-TR7 that i wont disagree coz you have watched him in more important matches so what does Wenger see in him or it would be a flop signing

  58. K-TR7 says:

    Wenger loves smoke screens:he said he was after Benzema while chasing chamack,he said he wanted ben arfa but went for nasri.trust me,melo in the epl would be a liability;he already has 3red cards this season,he is a very rash tackler with a poor disciplinary record.in the epl we play in tight spaces,he will suffocate.

  59. Erick says:

    So you reckon he is after another player probably Matuidi

  60. rico says:

    Afternoon peoples, what have i missed then…

  61. Erick says:

    Nothing much Rico only Melo is a tall Denilson 🙂

  62. rico says:

    Ah, don’t want him then 😉

  63. Coadsi says:

    Evening all, I cant see Le Boss signing someone who rejected him. (but then again i did not see him resigning a player but look where Sol is now). Melo would have to take a pay cut, no winter break, ………cant see it happening.

  64. Erick says:

    Rico he is aiming for someone else 🙂 Coadsi thats true and also we have buy out the rest of his contract which Wenger cant splash what about Matuidi any word on him?

  65. K-TR7 says:

    Melo will not come;juve will probably overprice him.he isn’t that good as he only has lucas to contend with in the national team.expect a vermy type of signing.

  66. rico says:

    Hi Coadsi and all

    I think he will get someone (mme, think i have thought that before) but we won’t have heard of him 😉

  67. K-TR7 says:

    Fab4 and torres are not in starting 11 to face france,interesting…

  68. rico says:

    I’m glad KTR7, I don’t want Cesc to play in a poxy friendly

  69. K-TR7 says:

    Thats one way to look at it;he may have his confidence blown to not have a place in starting 11 against le bleus.

  70. Coadsi says:

    does anyone know when this 5 + 6 rule or whatever it is comes in effect? i think that has a bearing on how arsenal are curently doing things. for example the quota on home grown players registered for the UCL. I dont see him buying much in the summer to be honest. I think he will promote the youngsters. so DJ20 will come in for Silvest, sol will stay, eastmond promoted etc. I think he should by though because, sorry to say but ramsey out for at least a year. not my hope but this is arsenal where the injuries are longer than expected.

  71. Coadsi says:

    Fab will come on and give a fabulous cameo appearance K-TR7. then tomorrow the spanish press will start the merry go round again about him leaving for Barca etc.

  72. rico says:

    I can just see what will happen, we will end up either winning the PL or coming second, get to the semis or even the final of the CL and he will say we are good enough – he will then say that those in the reserves have ‘physically and mentally’ meatured and are ready to step up…

    Its like being on a blood merry go round with AW at the moment 😉

  73. K-TR7 says:

    6+5 is highly unlikely to come to effect hence UEFA were forced to look at alternatives such as homegrown rule.6+5 is in opposition to EU labour laws and UEFA don’t really think they can stop globalisation.on spain,this will probable squad in tough matches and cesc will be disappointed to not feature.i think AW will declare RVP fit only after the internationals are done with.

  74. it 8/25
    the 8+6 rule was scrapped at the meeting in sydney as is would fit in to EC working regulations.
    evening people

  75. Coadsi says:

    yep, true that Rico but i would rather we win the prem and allow him to talk his bollocks than not just to prove that project youth is a complete failure. If we come second i think thats dangerous, He would think that we are almost there and then would refuse to strengthen and might even feel he has the luxury to sell a player or two while promoting from within. so i rather we win(which i think we will) or come third (to avoid the pesky CL qualifications, which i think the board loves for the additional money)

  76. Coadsi says:

    guys thanks for the clarification on the home grown player per squad rules

  77. K-TR7 says:

    Homegrown players in current squad:fab4,clichy,walcott,denilson,djorou,bendtner,wilshere,gibbs,eastmond ramsey,song…we’ll be fine.france have alot of quality players;imagine having evra,abidal and clichy fighting for lb while injury to cashley leaves England to bones in the same position.

  78. have you guys seen the player of the month picture from stoke game. looks like reservoir dogs quality

  79. rico says:

    Me too Coadsi, too true, and the CL – and then buy a player or two 😆

  80. avenell says:

    Evening All..

    I watched some of the Brazil game last night and the commentator said..
    ” for all the Arsenal season ticket holders who are here, it must be like watching Arsenal over elaborating and trying to walk the ball into the net”

    2 mins later Brazil scored.

    “what a well crafted goal full of flicks and back heels”

    2 faced tossers lol..

    How are we all??

  81. K-TR7 says:

    To win the cl we need to play like we did at beginning of the season;chasing the opposition everywhere, to avoid being counterattacked like we did against manure and all our best players(rvp AA fab tomas gallas)need to be on fire.Diaby is also a very unique player and is crucial to our chances.AW also needs to pick the best team and mix up tactics to avoid predictability.In the pl only consistency and treating every game as a final will clinch it.we need to improve our goal difference too starting with burnley.

  82. avenell says:

    Your right K-TR7.. I thought the lazyites stopped when Ade left. But it has crept back in.. Cough Denilson..cough Walcott.

  83. you would think with the return of AA dudu bendtner
    upfront we will be scoring for fun again

  84. rico says:

    Evening ave and rsd,

    I feel a HUGE win against Burnley coming 🙂

  85. avenell says:

    Evening Rico/RSD.. especially after what Coyle has been saying..

  86. K-TR7 says:

    We must first eliminate Porto though.In away games we need to ensure we have away goals and prevent being scored at home.Probable knockout teams include:realm,barca,bordeaux,arsenal,manu,inter/chav,bayern and sevilla.Teams that we should avoid:bordeaux,manu,chav,bayern& inter since they are the teams that punish mistakes and can defend a lead.Bayern would destroy anyone on the counter with ribery,robben and olic on the counter.Bordeaux are really difficult to beat.Barca are less formidable this year while real have one of the most porous defences in the ko.Sevilla rely on wingplay and crosses to fabiano and kanoute though they are poor at defending.the mancs and chavs you already know.

  87. have you seen theo been given a start
    see trigg

  88. K-TR7 says:

    England lineup:green,baines,upson,terry,brown,barry,lamps,stevie me,walcott,defoe and rooney.

  89. Erick says:

    Theo starting my oh my

  90. Erick says:

    Goodnight all am off 2bed cheers

  91. rico says:

    Night night Erick – be safe

  92. rico says:

    Sorry for being awol today, been busy changing a Rooster around the garden, the next door neighbours garden and evry other bloody garden…. 😉

    Thankfully he is now asleep

  93. Coadsi says:

    rico not just beat burnley but beat them by 4 clear goals to go on top for a few hours. hope Theo have a good game ensuring he makes the squad for SA and hence relaxing and playing better for us. Ps rooney to get injured tonight

  94. K-TR7 says:

    Rico-those chicks of yours are a handful.you must really be hardworker since i can’t stand them…

  95. K-TR7 says:

    Eddy has the best flicks outside the box which will surely bamboozle burnley defenders.they couldn’t beat pompey at home!we haven’t beat a team by seven goals for a while…

  96. W.A.T.H says:

    Rico ur always chasing “men” round the gardens…! evenin all…

  97. rico says:

    KTR7 – the hens are a breeze really, but the new boy only arrived today, if he isn’t better by the weekend he is off back where he came from 😉

  98. rico says:

    Evening wath, i expect nothing less from you 😆

  99. rico says:

    And wath, they have never had as many feathers as this one 😉

  100. rico says:

    Is Theo starting then?

  101. rico says:

    Oh – and Terry looks like he could be on the catwalk he’s so thin!!

  102. W.A.T.H says:

    Oh that’s just so kinky Rico 🙂

  103. avenell says:

    Bendtner has scored.. 🙂 a goal.. not the 32 year old millionairess he is s***ging.. 😉

  104. rico says:

    The feathers wath or Terry on the catwalk 😉

  105. rico says:

    avenell!!!! 😉

  106. W.A.T.H says:

    Tell you what Ave if your refering to terry on the catwalk I am very worried about you…! 🙂

  107. W.A.T.H says:

    it’s bad enough Rico chasing “cocks” round other people’s garden’s I mean what kind of neighbourhood is it I ask myself….! Now Ave thinks JT is kinky on the catwalk….. Think I’m on the wrong site….!

  108. avenell says:

    Here you are WATH..

    http://soccerlens.com/babes/nicky-bendtners-new-girlfriend/

    Worth about £13 mill from a divorce..

  109. K-TR7 says:

    Song almost got injured by the italians though he looks fine.wath-this site is getting spooky…

  110. W.A.T.H says:

    Ave, I thought you was refering to JT being a 32 yr old millionairess 🙂

  111. W.A.T.H says:

    Hmmm not bad that Ave, worth a few bob and pretty tasty 2, I would if she asked me nicely 🙂

  112. K-TR7 says:

    And Egypt score!they deserve it.David villa scores for spain against france…

  113. W.A.T.H says:

    Hmmmm KTR7….. Now what would I give for DV in an Arsenal shirt…!

  114. rico says:

    wath, you are a bad one ;)England are losing then..

  115. avenell says:

    All that is bad about football 0-1 Egypt 🙂

  116. K-TR7 says:

    Spain are looking comfortable,they really look a class apart.Sagna’s crossing is much better for the les bleus…

  117. rico says:

    Me too, that is the one player who would just fit in to our system, he just oozes class, pure class…

  118. Coadsi says:

    i agree with that rico and wath. however he would kill off dudu and vela 😉

  119. avenell says:

    Bendtner has scored as many as Villa tonight. 😉

  120. rico says:

    But David Villa is cute ave…!!

  121. rico says:

    Coadsi 😆 thats funny

  122. W.A.T.H says:

    Rico ur such a tart mention a bloke and ur on the pull as usual 🙂

  123. rico says:

    Me wath, not at all, just saying it how it is… 😉

  124. W.A.T.H says:

    suppose u’ll be chasing him round the neighbours garden as well 😛

  125. Coadsi says:

    wath she prolly wud not allow him to venture that far. any news on player injury so far?

  126. W.A.T.H says:

    Walcott is off so thats one not getting injured unless he hurts himself getting on the team coach…!

  127. rico says:

    Coadsi is right wath, no chance David Villa would get out the back door let alone next door 😉

    On that note, I’m offski for the night, I have a feeling an old Rooster will be giving me an early morning call, as will the ‘old bill with an ASBO 😉 😉

    Be safe all and have a good night, hope to see you all back tomorrow..

  128. Coadsi says:

    i was gonna say players that contribute but would be a bit harsh. who is the no. 15 for egypt?

  129. K-TR7 says:

    Spain two nil up,ramos has scored and fab4 is off.henry has been subbed and the french fans have jeered him.Argentina are one nil up thanks to higuain while its nil nil between italy and cameroon.

  130. W.A.T.H says:

    Nite Rico……….. 🙂 Saying nuffin….!

  131. W.A.T.H says:

    I’m off, cheers all

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