So, who says the magic of the FA Cup is dead?

How could that exciting display not trigger memories of magnificent Arsenal victories at Wembley?

Arsenal dispatched West Ham in a thrilling third round tie and by doing so continued Wenger’s excellent record of never having been knocked out of the FA Cup in the third round.

Surely when we win a match the manager’s team selection should be regarded as the correct one? It seems to make sense with hindsight: a strong back line, a chance for the young Firebrands to strut their stuff in the middle of the park and an attack that had, on one hand, an opportunity to regain some confidence while on the other an opportunity to make more of a mark and all having a chance to prove to Wenger that there would be no need to enter into the transfer market during this window.

Well, that may have been the theory; the trouble is that the defence was not solid with Silvestre doing an impersonation of a boxer out of breath and on the ropes for the majority of the game. Two of the young Firebrands were committing that oh so youthful sin of believing their own hype and failing to do the one thing that got them there in the team in the first place – doing the simple things well. Nothing demonstrates this better than Wilshire dribbling the ball in our own area and losing it which almost cost us a goal. The withering look that Gallas gave him after would scare small children from here to France.

West Ham sensing that we were having a bad day at the office came onto us with all the gusto of a man having been condemned to death and given the opportunity escape or perhaps more accurately having been widely expected to be knocked out but presented with the slim possibility of staying in the competition. We were pants in the first half: a couple of scuffed chances topped off with some school boy defending by Silvestre sending us into the break one nil down and no less than we deserved.

Wenger obviously sat the young guns down in the break and reminded them that their destiny is to become the best midfield that Arsenal had ever produced because they came out with far more belief but unfortunately still not enough cutting-edge to even the game up.

Changes had to be made and on the hour Wenger sent on Nasri and Diaby: the effect was not so much that the team moved up a gear it was more like they put the keys in the ignition and started the engine up for the first time.

The Gallic duo changed everything, not quite as dramaticly as Cesc coming on against Villa but it has to be noticed that Wenger is improving at this substitution malarkey.

Sagna, Silvestre and Song, who was my man of the match by a country mile, all pushed up; Vela was sent out to the wing which gave us width for the first time; Eduardo was given a ginger suit with a long nose and a bushy tail and told to stand in the box, while Ramsey freed from the responsibility of having to mop up other peoples mess could concentrate on driving forward into West Ham’s penalty box and scoring goals and that, as you know, is exactly what he did: the nimblest piece of interplay between Vela and Ramsey resulted in  the Welsh Wonder Kid firing a low drive past the helpless Robert Green to even the score.

West Ham’s heads went down and it became a competition of men against boys, only now it was our men against their boys, we were totally dominant.

The winner came from a fine cross from Vela into the penalty area for Eduardo to out jump Upson and send a looping header into the top corner. This goal not only won the match but it put an end to this nonsense of signing yet another over rated ex-Arsenal player. The smile on the face of the Fox in the Box said everything we needed to know about just how important it was for him to score and the relief it gave him.

The tie was ours West Ham were sent scurrying back to their places and all that was left to do was play a bit of exhibition football until the final whistle.

Player ratings

Fabianski: is obviously going to be our number one goal keeper next year, kept us in the tie with a brilliant save just before half time. 8

Sagna: crap crossing as usual but we scored more goals than they did so I guess that’s all that counts. 7

Gallas: always good nowadays but why was he risked? 7.5

Vermaelen: I would have preferred to have known that he was doing an add for a Belgian beer at home rather than risking himself in East London. 7.5

Silvestre: in his defence, the West Ham’s goal was off side. 6

Wilshire: the idea that he will get games at a team that will be fighting for their lives in the not too distant future like Burnley makes me laugh. 5.5

Song: I have one request: come back soon and safe. 9

Ramsey: ohhh we like Ramsey, sprang to life when the dynamic Gallic duo came on and made everyone’s afternoon. 8

Merida: totally out of his depth but how do you improve unless you play. 6

Eduardo: needed that goal badly. 7.5

Vela: the young Mexican’s attitude has changed from a person who expected to glide into the first team when he first arrived to one who seems to be prepared to fight for it, improved enormously when he moved out to the wing. 7

Which brings me to the question above: who says that the magic of the FA cup is dead?

I do — it left me as I made the long, lonely walk from the Stade de France back into the centre of Paris with the memory of being one up and the image of Thierry Henry being one on one with Valdes; he missed. It still hurts; I want to win that one more than I want us to win anything else and I don’t want our players arriving at the next final more tired than they need to be from unnecessary exertions in the now almost insignificant FA Cup. By beating West Ham we are forced to go to Stoke a couple of weeks before the CL re-starts and by doing so we risk fatigue at best and injury at worst. I would have preferred a completely CC team and worked on the basis that if the kids swam they swam and if they sank they sank.

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140 Responses to So, who says the magic of the FA Cup is dead?

  1. London says:

    Morning Roadsters

    Rasp, as you can see I had a change of mind , but I will keep your excellent suggestion in the bank if that is alright.

  2. alfamilano says:

    Excellent match report if I may say so. After my comments about Almunia making everyone nervous I have to say that Fabianski was great, not just the 2 great saves but his authority in the box, catching etc.

    Also, having said I was looking forward to Merida playing I was very disappointed. OK he still has to learn but there didn’t seem to be any evidence of him learning during the match, he just got worse.

    Really enjoyed the match.

    Lets hope Coyle isn’t in place for Wednesday.

  3. Stranger says:

    Coyle wont be in place by the return

  4. alfamilano says:

    By the way, 100% I want to win the FA Cup with our strongest team (and the CL).

  5. Stranger says:

    Wilshere needs to go for loan move to a team fighting promotion in the championship he is too selfish and very slow

  6. Rasputin says:

    Morning Roadsters,

    Excellent match report London.

    I agree wholeheartedly that Song was MoM. He was actually the catalyst for both goals.

    For the first he was screaming for the ball, arms outstretched in space outside the box. He fed the ball to Vela and although I’ve watched it several times I still can’t see how Vela managed to flick it to Ramsey – whose finish was worthy of any striker in the world.

    For the second, he won the ball on the left, surged forward and found Vela with a perfectly timed pass. Vela’s cross was quite untypical – it was perfect and delivered at pace and Eduardo’s header was different class.

    So the pattern to both goals was Song – Vela – exceptional finish.

    Diaby made the difference when he came and and I pray he doesn’t get injured because if he can maintain this form, let alone improve, he will be really important in our quest for trophies.

    Song is the player who frees the likes of Cesc and Ramsey – he will be missed but maybe we have discovered another way with Diaby and Ramsey.

    Lastly, I do not agree. The FA Cup is still special (to me any way). I respectfully suggest, that risking fatigue is not the best we can achieve from playing Stoke – we can build up a winning momentum, belief and confidence (think what effect Dudu’s goal will have on him) and we will be within a couple of games of winning the greatest cup competition in the world 🙂

  7. rico says:

    Morning all

    London, that is a wonderful write up about a wonderful game. When we went 1-0 I was very downhearted, but Diaby and Nasri changed the game, not always because of what they were doing, but WH feared them. Diaby muct have the longest legs in football and they did well last night.

    Song and Fabianski were my heroes and I agree that maybe Merida and Jack need a bit more to them before they play regular first team football, I think both should follow Henri to a club like Watford on loan.

    When we scored our goal the stomach ache lifted, the second made me full of joy.

    I am soft on the FA Cup too, and if we win this cup with the PL I would be very happy. Throw in the CL and life as a Gooner would be just awesome.

  8. rico says:

    Welcome to AR stranger, sorry for the delay, first comments always go into moderation, you are free to blog away..

  9. Dgob says:

    Rasputin,

    Agree with and second all that you said.

    Come on you Gunners!

  10. rico says:

    Welcome Dgob, you are free to blog now

  11. rico says:

    Arsene is saying this morning that he hopes to buy one, maybe two players….

    Lets hope he is truthing..

  12. kelsey says:

    Morning all.

    London I think you misunderstood me.I said I assume Senderos is off,as he wasn’t on the bench, there was no link.With Song off to the ANC, if Senderos doesn’t play midweek then i may well be right.

    On saturday AW stated Rosicky would be in the squad, but where was he ?

    I will go and read the post now 😉

  13. Rasputin says:

    Welcome Dgob – and thanks.

    Morning rico, Fab2 did well yesterday I thought, he’d be my No.1 Arsene wouldn’t be considering a new GK any way.

    I can’t see that we would be able to acquire a midfielder of sufficient quality who would want to fill in for Song for one month – so I guess a CF and back-up CB are the only positions we should consider for January. Several ‘big’ teams are in the market for a striker so prices will be high and there aren’t that many good CB’s around on the market. I think we may sign Chamakh in the summer.

  14. rico says:

    Hi Rasp, he would be my No1 too, I thought last night was the best he has played…

    I don’t like transfer windows 😉

    Off for a bit, busy day 😦

  15. London says:

    Ahhh now I understand Kelsey

    Clutching at straws, maybe Rosicky was too important for Wednesday to risk yesterday.

  16. avenell says:

    Morning Roadsters.. good write up London..

    Dudu with a bushy tail.. 🙂

    Just hearing on the radio that Vidic didn’t get injured in ManU’s warm up he had a row with red nose and refused to play, he wants out to RM who need a CH..

    So things not too good at OT.. 🙂

    Fergus in for Upson no doubt..

  17. kelsey says:

    I think someone has fired a rocket up arsene’s jacksie and the ruthless side is his new year resolution.long may it continue.

  18. musher says:

    I have nominated Song as player of the year already.

  19. Stranger says:

    Wilshere needs an attitude adjuster the kid whines and doesnt drop back

  20. Stranger says:

    Musher i nominate the verminator

  21. London says:

    Kelsey

    That thought crossed my mind: some new influence (Kroenke) at the club has encouraged him, with their backing, to go out and achieve things. He hasn’t been like this for ages.

    Morning Ave

  22. London says:

    It’s got to be between Song and the Verminator…..but maybe Gallas should be in with a shout….

  23. London says:

    Musher

    You have a really good name, what made you chose it?

  24. avenell says:

    Morning London..

    Cesc is still my player of the season.. it’s just that we have got used to his high standards and we take him for granted..

  25. London says:

    True, very true Ave

  26. alfamilano says:

    Let’s never take Cesc for granted…

  27. avenell says:

    Morning Alfa..

    Last year a lot of fans were on Cesc’s back.. and we should sell him.. but he went through the whole season without the three players that were part of the best midfield in the country the year before.

    It’s only when AA came in and to some extent Nasri and Rosicky coming back this year we have seen the Cesc with vision again..
    Cesc needs players on the same wavelength.. not crabs. 😉

  28. avenell says:

    How people read things into the same interview is amazing..

    Arsenal won’t buy in transfer window as Arsene Wenger can’t find a target…

    Wenger poised for January spending spree..

  29. Stranger says:

    Cesc is the world player of the year so that xcempts him from club awards

  30. avenell says:

    That’s a good point Stranger..

    Problem is FIFA nor UEFA would never pick an arsenal player..

    How Henry missed out is a myth..

    Mind you if we win the CL, Cesc would have to be taken more seriously.
    I’m arguing with myself now..

  31. alfamilano says:

    Morning Avenell
    I’m don’t think a lot of people were on Cesc’s back, maybe just felt a bit frustrated that he and the team weren’t at the top of their game. I agree completely with what you say about the rest of the midfield.

    Wengerball is really coming to the fore but maybe its better for a league rather than a cup competition. We can probably win 95% of matches by 3 goals if we are on form, using any of 15-17 players, but if a Chelsea type team get on top of us and crunch our midfield we are stuck and get powered out of the game. Tough to see us winning the CL without a Plan B (even though Plan A is fantastic right now).

  32. London says:

    If we won the CL, Fabregas would win world player of the year as would have Henry

    Morning Alfa

    Thank you for the kind words above.

  33. alfamilano says:

    London, are you going to bring some special coffee on Wednesday? We are going to need it.

    Looking forward to your post after we win the CL…

    ‘Cesc, dragging himself from the treatment table after 4 weeks out with a pulled hamstring, comes on in the 63rd minute and completes the fastest hat trick in CL history…’

  34. avenell says:

    There were a few on his case on the blogs alfa.. I had to do a bit of defending..

    You know the lose a game Wenger out mentallity..

    It may have been different at the Emirates..

  35. London says:

    Alfa

    I’m on the wagon, no special coffee on Wednesday 😦

  36. kelsey says:

    you have to remember cesc is only 22 and already played 220+ games for us. initially look at the mentors he had in the side,and now at his tender age he is the leader of the pack, the best example was the cameo role against villa,he changed the game in just over 20 minutes with his intelligence,and vision, something that cannot be taught but comes naturally to a few.

  37. alfamilano says:

    There was one guy really moaning during one game last season, sitting just behind Benwell. Cesc was no good, Arsene had to go etc.. Eventually Benwell turned round and gave everyone the Dunkirk speech: ‘ Come on! Get behind the team! We’re supposed to be supporters! We’re Arsenal!!’. I had a tear in my eye.

    Moaney guy started whining ‘I’m a supporter too!’

    Benwell just looked him in the eye and said ‘No you’re not, you’re a fucking c***’.

    Cue laughter all round and silence from whiner for the rest of the match.

  38. alfamilano says:

    London
    never mind. I’ll go and sit with Mrs. Alfa instead.

  39. kelsey says:

    alfamilano you can talk to me, i don’t bite ;)my wife just told me she hasn’t got enough candles for my birthday cake .

  40. alfamilano says:

    Hi Kelsey

    sorry if I ignored you, not intentional just getting used to all this. I agree about Cesc. Amazing he has played 220 games, I hadn’t realised that. I’ve always admired Ryan Giggs (I know, I know) but Cesc must be ahead of even his development (not his medals though 😦 )

  41. kelsey says:

    no problems alfamilano.

    I don’t think anyone will ever match giggs again for being a one club man and at 36 still more than useful, i just hate it when sky are forever repeating his extra time goal in the cup semi final, i think in 99.

  42. alfamilano says:

    I have to turn over every time it comes on

  43. Rasputin says:

    Cesc is a ‘once in a lifetime gem’ (it just happens that we’ve already had 2 😛 = DH & TH). At the moment, Ramsey is 70% of Cesc but he is also 70% of Gerrard and he will improve – a frightening prospect for the rest of the prem. He is like Cesc in that he needs quality around him to perform to his utmost.

  44. Rasputin says:

    DH = DB 😳

  45. London says:

    Morning Rasp

    Good shout about Ramsey needing quality around him…..that certainly showed itself to be true yesterday.

  46. Rasputin says:

    Morning London,

    The highhlights coverage of the game on ITV last night was pretty poor. The interviewer asked Arsene something like “You’ve proved today that you have the depth in the squad to compete on 3 fronts” – Arsene smiled and said we’ve got 9 injuries. It was obvious that Arsene was delighted with the victory and is happy to keep his options open to push for the FA cup if he feels we are equipped to do so. The question was obviously a precursor to “Are you going to dip into the transfer market in January?” to which he gave his usual diplomatic answer.

  47. Edmond Dantes says:

    Hi everybody

    It’s a great start to 2010. Let’s hope the boys keep it going. In Arsene we trust.

    Also, I’m happy that Manure lost. They have some arrogant supporters who can now shut-up. Not that they will, however. Martin Tyler picked Arsenal’s invincibles (when they achieved the feat) as his moment of the decade. Some manure supporters like to belittle that accomplishment. It’s a case of sour grapes on their part.

  48. kelsey says:

    observation:

    in the music business you are a veteran in your fifties but in football management hardly anything is said about age.fergie 68,wenger 60 and the guy who won the euros for greece was 74 then.

    No real point in this post,but it makes me feel younger.

  49. avenell says:

    Alfa.. your earlier comment went into spam.. I had to edit out the dodgy word ;).. .. sorry.

  50. Edmond Dantes says:

    From my side, I think that we have 3 world-class players in our squad currently. They are Cesc, AA and RvP in order of importance.
    There are others in that second-tier below world class, like Nasri, Vermaelen etc.
    Song has been very impressive so far this season and Diaby looks like he’s finally getting it together.
    If we get lucky and not sustain too many injuries, things are on the up for the Arsenal, I reckon.

  51. avenell says:

    As much as I would like to say we had a few more Edmond you are probably right..

    I suppose the definition of World Class is a debate though..

    If it was the best 11 players in the world we may only have one.. but if world class is good enough to get in a national team to play in world football we have loads..

  52. Rasputin says:

    Hi Edmond,

    I think you’re about right in your assessment – the exciting thing is that we have numerous young improving players who could yet be elevated to ‘world class’ status in the next few years.

    I had to laught at ‘If we get lucky and not sustain too many injuries” – I said that at the start of the season when everyone was fit and we’ve got 9 at present and we’re still looking good in the 3 biggest competitions 😉

  53. Edmond Dantes says:

    avenell, by “world-class” I mean that these 3 players could fit into a world XI or at least the world XI bench. But I agree with you that the term “world-class” can be a bit vague at times.

    rasp, I agree, players like Ramsey and Wilshere are very exciting. But now from the young players, I think Ramsey is most ready. For many seasons now, we have been worse hit with injuries I think, when compared to the other top sides.

  54. Edmond Dantes says:

    If Manure had to lose Rooney they would definitely struggle to get results. Chelsea without Drogba and Essien, I’m sure will be severely tested. So far we have been able to stay in contention without RvP and now without Cesc. I hope we keep it going.

  55. Rasputin says:

    Statistics prove that we have had more injuries than most other sides. The interesting question is why?

    Stress-type injuries are more likely to affect players whose body type is either too heavy or too light in structure.

    Freddie Flintoff and Dean Ashton are too heavy for the demands they put on their bodies whereas the likes of RVP and Johnny Wilkinson are too light framed to withstand the battering they have to absorb.

    We tend to go for players who are very technically gifted but often a bit ‘fragile’. Obviously you cannot legislate for freak injuries such as that sustained by Dudu. Its the injuries we sustain in training that infuriate me, but apparently the sessions are not as ‘physical’ as at most clubs.

  56. Rasputin says:

    Actually its not simply that our players are a bit fragile, its just that they are a bit ‘too good’ and attract late/mis-timed tackles as happened with Eduardo – so I will change that to – they are vulnberable 😛

  57. Rasputin says:

    While I’m having this fascinating debate with myself 😳 I’ll add that we are inavriably the most fouled team across a season which backs up my last point … I’m going away to sulk now 🙄

  58. Edmond Dantes says:

    Rasp, Lampard has not had too many stress-type injuries on account of his body type. I guess he’s been lucky. I heard people call him Fat Frank.

  59. Edmond Dantes says:

    Arsenal in most games have over 60% ball possession. Chances are that our players are going to have to withstand more tackles than most other teams.

  60. avenell says:

    IF you have 70% possesion in games you could be more likely to suffer injuries from late tackles etc, more so than players less comfortable on the ball.

    That’s my theory..

    If anyone seriously belives our medical staff are sub standard is beyond me..

    Arsene leads in this type of field..

  61. avenell says:

    Snap Edmond… I need to speed up on my typing.. lol..

  62. avenell says:

    I have to go out.. cheers lads..

  63. Rasputin says:

    It’s OK to carry the weight if you have the bone density to support it and the ligaments are conditined. It’s interesting that when new recruits join the army these days, they no longer send them out to do hours of parade ground marching from day one, but break them in more slowly. This is mainly to do with the fact that kids grow up wearing cushioned trainers and their lower limb bones have not been conditioned to impact. They found a significant increase in shin splints and fractures. There are always exceptions that prove the rule – fat fwanks probably just a luckyb b’stard 😕

  64. Rasputin says:

    Un-snap ave 😉

  65. Edmond Dantes says:

    Till next time. Bye bye everybody.

  66. alfamilano says:

    Avenell

    no problem with the other post, I’ll moderate my language. Don’t want to offend anyone. You probably had to be there to appreciate it anyway… 🙂

    Protecting yourself from injury is a mental thing as well – being aware, reacting quickly if off balance, knowing when to pull out of a lost cause, that sort of thing. TV seems to have incredible balance and control for instance.

  67. Rasputin says:

    Someone’s starting a rumour that we’re about to sign Sol Campbell on a pay per play basis????????

  68. Rasputin says:

    And Vieira to rejoin Mancini at Shitty????

  69. peachesgooner says:

    This is the home of the rumourmill….. 😛

    Looks like Owen Coyle will be Boltons manager by tomorrow night……

  70. peachesgooner says:

    Was that Sol Campbell…….Sol Swoon Campbell……. 😆

  71. peachesgooner says:

    rasp – that was a very interesting debate you were having with yourself earlier……I agree that the players are vulnerable but mainly because they are so fabulous that they’re targets for any other player that isn’t as handsome or talented 😀

    Vela v Behrami yesterday…….Behrami had the needle cos Vela is so much prettier…….

  72. London says:

    If Senderos goes we will need someone to sit on the bench for the rest of the season; so, who better than our Sol?

  73. London says:

    But Vieira at City would be hard to swallow

  74. Rasputin says:

    Hi peaches,

    Yes, I’ve been honing my reasoning whilst discussing this with myself.

    My conclusion is that our players are best described as vulnerable (as opposed to fragile) because:

    1. We tend to be at the end of more desparate tackles due to the high % of possession.
    2. Our players are more skillful and draw defenders into the tackle so they can gfain an extra yard when they spin away
    3. We have a reputation for being primadonnas and it is perceived that a physical approach is the best way to counteract our style of football

  75. Rasputin says:

    I wonder who would win a sprint race…. Sylvestre or Sol?

  76. rico says:

    peachesgooner Says:

    January 4, 2010 at 4:26 pm edit

    Vela v Behrami yesterday…….Behrami had the needle cos Vela is so much prettier…….

    😆 😆 😆 That is really funny peaches, could only have come from you… Corker 😉

  77. rico says:

    Tomas has signed a new deal…….

  78. Rasputin says:

    I hope that’s on a pay-per-play basis 🙄

  79. rico says:

    No Rasp, its not

    Czech Republic international midfielder Tomas Rosicky has today signed a new contract with Arsenal Football Club.

    Twenty-nine year-old Rosicky joined Arsenal in May 2006 from Borussia Dortmund and has made 76 appearances for the Gunners, scoring 14 goals. Having missed a proportion of the last two seasons due to injury, Tomas has made significant contributions this season when appearing, helping the team fight for domestic and European honours with his trademark clinical passing and invention.

    On the international stage, Rosicky has played 69 times for the Czech Republic, having progressed from playing for the Under-15s to the highest level, representing his country at the European Championships in 2000 and 2004, and also at the 2006 World Cup.

    Commenting on his new deal, Tomas said: “I am so pleased to have signed a new contract with Arsenal. The last two seasons haven’t been easy for me because of injuries but I feel it speaks volumes about the Club’s belief in me for this to be signed, and I truly believe I have a lot left to offer the Club, my team-mates and all the supporters. It’s felt like home since I arrived here four years ago and I believe we’re on the verge of achieving something special together. I’m looking forward to the coming months and hope that together, we are all celebrating at the end of the season.”

    Manager Arsène Wenger added: “I have spoken many times of Tomas’ class and contribution, not only on the pitch but off it as well, and I very much feel that this new contract reflects that. Tomas’ vision and touch is remarkable and I know that we will all benefit from his input in the coming seasons. Tomas is a special talent and we’re delighted that he has committed his future to Arsenal.”

  80. Rasputin says:

    2 years 😦

  81. Rasputin says:

    What good’s his contribution off the pitch?

    Don’t get me wrong, a Tomas who would be fit for 50% of games for the next 2 years would be worth it … but I wonder?

  82. alfamilano says:

    It’s a gamble that we get plenty of games from him. Fair enough, no worse a risk than buying a new young player. He is a class act when he is in the groove, I think he may be getting back to that.

  83. alfamilano says:

    Avenell, have I been red carded for foul and abusive language? My comments don’t seem to be appearing.

  84. rico says:

    I am going to hang fire Rasp, just maybe he is finally over his injuries, surely the club would have made sure of all that before getting him to sign?

    He has been out so long, maybe we have all expected a little too much to soon, I don’t know, but lets just hope…..

  85. kelsey says:

    Why would Owen Coyle go to Bolton when he refused the Celtic job ? strange decision IMO

  86. kelsey says:

    If reports are true, just when Diaby is finding his true attacking midfield role,why is he proposing to stand in for Song, as reported by AFC in an interview with Diaby and Wenger

  87. kelsey says:

    New contract for Rosicky, how much is he paying us 🙂

  88. kelsey says:

    Good idea rasp,
    talk to oneself and no arguements.

  89. Rasputin says:

    This smacks of Arsenal spin to me in terms of the timing relative to ‘new players in January’ – or am I just being cynical?

  90. rico says:

    Rasp, you cynical….. never 😉

    Hi kelsey

  91. avenell says:

    Alfa.. sorry your comments are now going into spam..
    I will try to sort it, but as this is Londons post he may have to keep letting you out..

    Peaches/London/rico..

    Earlier Alfa said the dreaded word and he keeps going into spam now..
    can you keep your eye on it for us.. (I have had to let 3 comments out)

    What do you suggest we do about this?

    Jonjon wants the moderation off so there are no hold ups for new bloggers..

    We cannot write a message to every new blogger there was about 50 on Saturday..

    We are going to lose quality bloggers like Herdsman and Alfa, they will get pissed off keep going into spam and there comments no coming on..

  92. rico says:

    Hi ave, moderation off?? would/could that not be a problem for all of our security? I am not computer literate but, especially yours…

  93. avenell says:

    I turn it off when I am here, but I put it on at night..

    The moderation just allows bloggers to come straight on and not get the first message held up..

    I would rather allow the banned word on then just edit it out later and have a quiet word..

  94. rico says:

    Fairy snuff 🙂

    I won’t need to check the dashboard anymore then 🙂 🙂

  95. avenell says:

    The moderation has to be on when either you or me are not here, because it could be a free for all at night.

    What are your thoughts on the cough word?.. lol..

    I feel like a school kid here a bit.. 😉

  96. rico says:

    I hate it ave, but its up to you and JJ to be fair…

  97. rico says:

    Seen this?

    Miguel Veloso is set to leave Sporting Lisbon this January with top European clubs Arsenal, Tottenham, Barcelona and Fiorentina all linked with a £9m move. The Portuguese defender come defensive midfielder has been linked to a move to the Premier League for a number of seasons but with his club now looking to sell, he may well be on his way

  98. avenell says:

    The thing is rico.. You don’t don’t like it nor do peaches and rasp.. and you have all been loyal so I have to respect your views.

    But after a blogger writes the magic word down all the next comments get spammed.. Then I have just come home to find three in there.. It’s not so bad with alfa. but it could take 20 let outs before he is allowed back on..

    I would like to allow it and if you could edit it out and give the blogger a verbal smack bum.. that would make life easier..
    I need to speak to peaches on it, but if you don’t mind doing that..

  99. avenell says:

    That’s got to be rubbish rico…. they call the spuds a top european club.. lol..

  100. London says:

    Ave….the dreaded word are you talking about the c word? I can’t imagine him saying it…..ever. Alpha comes from the politer end of supporting spectrum.

  101. London says:

    I’m just amazed…he is a big boy….this is no biggy.

  102. avenell says:

    London.. Like me.. 😉 but go back and read his comments… it was the Benwell speach at 11.43.. I edited it..

    It is going to happen all the time.. that’s the problem.. That’s twice in 3 days now..

  103. London says:

    If you tell me what to do technically I will explain it to Alpha….I mean does he have to change his name or something to stop this happening.

  104. avenell says:

    No London it’s down to you.. (your post)

    In dashboard look at the spam bit.. that’s either a pervy advert or viagra normally.
    But alfa goes in there as he said the word just once.. his next 20 get binned in there..

    YOU have to click on his comment in there and approve it.. that sends it into the other one Pending .. you then have to go in there and approve it again..

    x20 you can see the problem..

  105. rico says:

    but then i have to read the word ave 😦 😦 of course i will help, but i hate it, big time…..

    i take it the c word is cheese 😉

  106. London says:

    Ahh now I understand, paraphrasing Benwell, lol, that makes sense…that was the closest I came to a fight at Arsenal in ages.

    This is just a miss understanding with Alpha, my guess is that he is the kind of person who would understand and be happy to abide by the rule..he like others just didn’t realise……but this problem is not going away…….can I suggest a solution, how about the word is banned amongst the regulars and when someone becomes a regular we explain the rule to them.

  107. London says:

    With respect, Alpha may be my friend and I, as a guest, may have written the post but I am not an owner and as I have said many times, I do not want to be one. So you guys need to find a long term solution because this problem is not going to go away on its own.

    And may I suggest that when Alpha next comes on you explain the rule that you guys made and as a guest, I had nothing to do with.

  108. avenell says:

    London.. you are a bit of a privileged guest and if the rule carries on you may have to help.. just by letting a few on..

    but we are trying to solve it anyway..

  109. London says:

    Let me give this a bit more thought…my last comment was a bit too knee jerk

  110. alfamilano says:

    I’ve just come back on. I am deeply embarrassed. 3 days in and I’m legendary for using the unmentionable word. As London said I was paraphrasing some terrace talk – should have realised this wasn’t the right place for that. I really am quite a nice person.

    The only other online forum site I use is for cars and on that if anyone ever swears the software replaces most of the word with a censored sign automatically, so I’d assumed that would happen. The context was such that those words were relevant otherwise I would never have said it. I’m generally the last to use langauge like that in public. Sorry again.

    If I have to post another 15 ‘nothing’ comments I’m happy to do that.

  111. rico says:

    Dinner calls 😆

  112. avenell says:

    London.. I think we have sorted one problem out..

    But the other one we have is if you do a post as attractive as jonjon’s on saturday you may have to let any new guests on..

    Just keep your eye on PENDING and approve if they are not abusive..

    This is a problem that comes with NewsNow etc..

    We all want the new bloggers. but they have to be approved.. It’s easy..

  113. avenell says:

    Haha alfa… all that and nobody lets you out of spam again.. lol..

    Are you just into alfa’s?

    I am semi restoring my friends Lancia Integrale evo2 at the moment.. Is that coolish?

  114. kelsey says:

    ashley cole is a cheese,,nah. 😉

  115. peachesgooner says:

    Sorry ave, I got distracted writing an email to rico, I wasn’t ignoring you – you know that I don’t want to see it on the blog and neither do other bloggers rasputin included. Its up to you and JJ really – I just worry that it’ll get used too often once its seen even if you snuff it out behind the scenes.

  116. peachesgooner says:

    kelsey 😀

  117. avenell says:

    Peaches.. Rico and I will edit it out and warn.. if they take the piss we will ban them..

    I have spoken to rico on the subject and we will try that route..
    Sorry but it really is agro..

  118. kelsey says:

    OK let’s give it a try.

    Fat Sam is a chedder.Sir Alex is a stilton. Zola is a mozerella.Adebayor is a greedy gorganzola. Joey barton is a lump of brie.Spurs are…..etc. 😉

  119. peachesgooner says:

    Boys huh, you just can’t trust them …… 😛

  120. peachesgooner says:

    Phil Brown is a Red Leicester …..

  121. London says:

    Back again

    I was trying to help my children with their homework, cook the dinner, watch some Brazilian shares I own and blog about the banned word all at the same time.

    Deciding who can and can’t come on the site is a little too far for me. I am happy to write something when asked but beyond that it is all yours. So if by some fluke I write something and it has the same effect as Jonjon’s fine post on Saturday I am not prepared to deal with people who may have said the word that you have banned.

    My personal views on the word are that as a guest on this site I am happy to abide by the site rules.

  122. peachesgooner says:

    Sorry you missed me kelsey…….had a house full of children when I got back…..

  123. London says:

    Has the ban been lifted? Does that mean I can call Ashley a banned word? Ashley you are a banned word.

  124. peachesgooner says:

    Heres a little secret London, when you’re the author of the post you can use all the banned words in one go and your comments will still appear……. 😉

  125. London says:

    Why can’t Wenger buy someone, that would change the subject and cheer us all up.

  126. peachesgooner says:

    You’re right there London – who would you love to see? Rasp says the Vieira to Citeh rumour is gathering pace………I’ll be so unhappy to see him in blue 😦

  127. avenell says:

    London…NOOOOO. lol..

    Don’t worry about the banned word it has gone..sorted..

    But if you write a post and it attracts first time bloggers on here they will not be able to comment.. you have to let them out.. they are in moderation just initially..

    As long as they are not abusive to you or the site let them out..

    For instance if you write a post and your mate GMR comes on his comment will not appear on the post until you allow it..

    In the mean time he could get pissed off and never blog on here again..
    You don’t have to make any rules up or judge anyone, you don’t have to edit anything, you don’t have to make any decisions..

    Just let the newies on.. okay?

  128. avenell says:

    He won’t be any good in the Premiership.. He won’t even get games.. no world cup for him.

  129. avenell says:

    I’m not changing it, I wasn’t asked.. 😦

  130. peachesgooner says:

    Sorry sweetie, I didn’t know you were there, thankyou for changing it 🙂 😛 😀

  131. avenell says:

    I didn’t .. lol..

  132. peachesgooner says:

    But I’d love to see him in an Arsenal shirt again…….couldn’t he just stand in the tunnel and look intimidating………or sit next to Arsene and give Pat Rice a rest……..

  133. rico says:

    Cheesey Cole kelsey 😉 😉

    ave – i have been tweaking 😉

  134. avenell says:

    That’s okay rico.. You could also do the title boring, boring avenell (blog rules)
    Make it a bit clearer if you want..

  135. avenell says:

    Robin edam Persie.. 😦 best effort..

  136. rico says:

    All done ave, take a peak please and tell me off 😉

  137. rico says:

    Off now – let me know tommorrow ave if its poop, be good all…

  138. Rasputin says:

    Fab has had a minor setback and will miss the Everton game – could be back for Bolton V2

  139. musher says:

    Hi London, I chose Musher because I can only dream to be a musher as I m living in Asia. I also dream of going to Emirates to watch our gunners. 🙂

  140. rico says:

    New Post

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