Arsenal Bag a Striker and the Return of Flamini..

After having him on loan in December 2008 and with the scouts monitoring him on a regular basis, Brazilian under17 International Wellington Silva has recently completed his move to The Gunners in a £3.5million deal. The player however will not arrive at the Emirates until January 2011, as rules state the player must stay at his club until he his 18. The best part of £2million has already been paid in advance to his club Fluminese, with the rest to come when the player arrives…

Normally, I wouldn’t have a problem with this. During his trial with us he hit 4 goals in one youth game and it is rumoured that in 19 games he played at youth level in Brazil he hit 51 goals. So it’s no surprise the club have made their move early and bagged what is probably the most sought after 17 year old in the world..

But here’s my problem. Although the goals have still been coming, the absence of Robin Van Persie for the rest of the season is bound to hit the club hard at some point, especially when it comes to the business end of the season and the pressure games in Europe and Domestically start to come thick and fast. It’s plain to see that we are short up front. Bendtner is out until the end of this month and he’s known to be a slow starter. Eduardo is still finding his feet and the slightest injury could set him back again. And with Vela and Walcott not cutting the mustard at all, this leaves the club relying on Arshavin. An injury to that man could end our season. So we could really do with a tad more quality upfront. Even Wenger has suggested many times in recent interviews that he is looking.

I want him to do more than look. I want him to find and buy. There are plenty of quality strikers in Europe who would jump at the opportunity to sign for Arsenal. If the club can fork out £2million up front for a striker who wont even be joining the club until next year and then take 2-3 years to develop, I think they can fork out a few million quid for a quality striker now who will help us push on and keep up the momentum in the league.

If Wenger finds such a striker, then I will be chuffed to bits. If he doesn’t, I’ll be a little bit miffed as to why the only striker he’s bought wont be ready to play for the first team until 2014…

However, the attack is not the only area we are left short. With Song absent for a while we are left short of a player who can marshall the midfield in a defensive capacity. A player who can get box to box, contribute to the attack when necessary, but is aware of his defensive duties first and foremost. Denilson’s not really the best and his back injury could mean he is in and out of the team for a few months. People are saying Diaby can fill the void but I don’t think so. Diaby’s an attacker and plays best when he’s let off the leash. Asking Diaby to play a more disciplined, all action role in the centre of our midfield is a square peg in a round hole and is just asking for below par performances. Besides, he’s only had  3 good halves this season and people think he’s ready for the Ballon D’or. This is not the case. Diaby’s inconsistent and although recent performances (halves against weak opposition) have been impressive, I wont be losing any sleep if we lost him for a while the same way I lose sleep if we lose Cesc or Song.

So what about Flamini? He’s unsettled at Milan and has spent most of his time this season sat on the bench. He was Ancelotti’s signing, but he doesn’t seem to fit into Leonardo’s plans and with Gattuso recently signing a new contract, Flamini’s days look numbered. In a world cup year he will be looking to play regular and Lyon seem to be offering him a way out. Their own box to box man, Jean Makoun has been unsettled himself this season, with dreams of a move to one of Europe’s top teams left in tatters by Lyon in the summer, Makoun has responded with some below par displays this year and has now headed off to the ACN with Cameroon. Lyon see this as a perfect opportunity to replace him with Flamini.

If Lyon do make their move, I hope Wenger matches whatever they have to offer and bring Mad Matthieu back home.  We could really use his energy in the middle off the park, something which none of our other midfielders have and to top it off, he knows how to play ‘Wengerball’.. So there will be no adaptation period and he can fit right in..

Come on Arsene, you know it makes sense..

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445 Responses to Arsenal Bag a Striker and the Return of Flamini..

  1. peachesgooner says:

    Morning all

    Yes yes yes bring home Flamini 😛

    Sadly I don’t think that’ll happen though it was nice to be reminded of him JonJon – a good read 😀

  2. yash says:

    flamini???have u ever heard of SONG???and denilson???we dnt need a DM…we need a striker and a centre half!!

  3. Kane says:

    In regards to buying Flamini back, you’re missing the bigger picture. If Wenger buys back Flamini, it sends a message to the other players that if they leave Arsenal and it fails, they can always come back. This would be damaging, as Arsenal have a youth policy which relies on developing young players and retaining them through their peak years.

  4. Rasputin says:

    Morning Roadsters,

    Very good post JonJon – I wish AW was less stubborn and would consider such a ‘commom sense’ move. I’m sure he has said in the past that he would never bring a player back. He may be making excuses or he may actually believe it when he says bringing in established players would destroy the confidence of his ’emerging talent’.

    I’d love to see the Flamster back with us on a short term contract. Four months to help us win the prem, get himself into the WC squad and impress prospective buyers if he wants to move on in the summer – a win/win situation.

  5. Pat says:

    flamini one season wonder!
    what did we win with him??
    if you want to turn back the clock only Thierry is good enough

  6. LB says:

    To be fair, Wellington is a must buy. There are very few players in the world of that quality. He is simply an incredible player, quick, very very very skilled, scores an infinite number of goals, is two footed, can play midfield and upfront, and is next Brazilian superstar, better than Pato, better than Robinho, better than Kaka, assuming of course he fulfills the early promise. Honestly, I don’t see us having to wait till 2014 for him to contribute to the senior squad, he is that good.

    But I also agree that we are thin upfront. But can Wenger be faulted if he chases Dzeko, Chamakh, Gignac, Villa, Kun, etc. and none are available at a reasonable price? Personally I wouldn’t be shattered if he didnt buy because of that. What we don’t want is a second rate striker who is no better than say Watt.

  7. Rasputin says:

    Morning Pat,

    I don’t know where this idea comes from that one player can be blamed for us not winning anything. We came pretty close in Flamini’s last season – nearly won the CL and he was one of the stronger elements in the side. It has been shown many times (Hleb) that players who look good in our team may not propser in other set-ups. It wasn’t Flamini’s fault that we didn’t win anything and without Song he is a better HM / box to box midfielder than anyone else in the squad. One man does not a team make!

  8. alfamilano says:

    I reckon he only tried for one season to make sure he got his move. for that season he was brilliant. I can’t see AW buying him back and with good reason.

    Thierry back for RvP for a season – I reckon he would unbalance the team.

  9. Rasputin says:

    Hi Kane,

    What’s the purpose of the club – to be successful amd win trophies or avoid hurting the feelings of youngsters?

  10. Bracknell Gooner says:

    What class A drugs did you have with teh turkey? I know we have Song out for the ACN, but it’s a bit much to think that after an incredible 1st half to the season he is not filling the mid field role and is creating the foundation to let the other 4/5 midfield players express themselves and also drop into the back line when the Verminator or big willy push up, that something MF could not do. Plus don’t forget he has a rep for play 2-3 seasons take the money and move on.

  11. avenell says:

    Yash, Kane and Pat.. Welcome to Avenell Road.. Your comments will not be held up now..

    Flamini being a one season wonder was Arsene’s fault for not playing him.. he prefered Gilberto.
    He didn’t do bad in the defence that went on the longest run without conceding in the CL..

    Kane .. that could work the other way.. Flamini could be very grateful Get his head down and tell the rest of the squad that the grass is not always greener on the other side..

    Denilson or Flamini is a no contest..

  12. avenell says:

    Welcome LB and Bracknell Gooner you are free to blog now..

  13. Rasputin says:

    Nobody took drugs Bracknell – we’re just discussing a proposition and giving our opinions. A short term signing of MF could be good for all parties – but like any signing it is a risk .. in this case the risk would be minimal and we could be assured the player would be highly motivated.

  14. bilal says:

    We need a striker but one which could adjust to the playing pattern of gunners. Its useless to go out and splash on attackers who cannot play with the rest of the players. That someone has to be just right to do the job. I only have one name in mind and thats Pavlouchenko. His movements suggest he is gonna be sucessful with us. Only Redknapp knew how and where to play him. And about Flamini, forget it. Wenger will never pay for someone who walked on a free transfer on him. He might be looking at some DM and my fav one is ofcourse Melo.

  15. avenell says:

    Rasp.. yesterday we had our best day ever.. we beat our previous record that was from Feb..

    This post has just beat yesterdays within 30 mins.. lol.. Flamini is marmite..

  16. couldn’t agree more with kane. flamini had his cake and ate it and he can’t have it back

  17. avenell says:

    Welcome to you Bilal.. your comments will come straight on now..

    As for Wenger paying, if the price is right..

  18. avenell says:

    Hi ugandan gunner welcome to you sir.

    Would you rather Arsenal win the PL or stick to that principle?

    We treated Flamini like shit first..

  19. avenell says:

    Thank f**k it’s died down a bit I can get another coffee..

  20. London says:

    Morning JJ

    I am, as you know, an avid reader of your posts and I have noticed a difference: a huge leap forward in their flow. After thinking about it I have come to the conclusion that you must have been taking better writing pills…..where do you buy the bloody things 😉

    An extremely good read and the traffic above proves you hit the target you were aiming for.

    And now onto Flamini

    Wenger will not send the message, to the agents of the current collection of youthful gems that are at the Home of Football, that it’s alright to leave because you will always be able to come back…..never going to happen.

    I hope that Flamini does go to Lyon; he should play on a more regular basis there and give us the opportunity to answer the question once and for all as to whether he was a one season wonder or not.

  21. cypriotFan says:

    flamini?? :S :S we dont realy need him..!!! we need only striker..!!! who gonna be out?? SONG? whose making one of his best season?? or DENILSON?? maybe make some mistakes with Aston Villa but he is still very very good player

  22. Rasputin says:

    Morning rasp,

    Playing fantastic football gets bums on seats at footthe Emirates and controversial posts get fingers tapping on keyboards!

    I can’t see how we could lose if we took the flamster on loan till the end of the season. It shouldn’t stop us buying a striker, CB or any other player – although as I’ve said repeatedly, I don’t think we’ll sign anyone…

  23. avenell says:

    Morning London..

    What about these points…Flamini being a one season wonder was Arsene’s fault for not playing him.. he prefered Gilberto.
    He didn’t do bad in the defence that went on the longest run without conceding in the CL..

    That could work the other way.. Flamini could be very grateful Get his head down and tell the rest of the squad that the grass is not always greener on the other side..

    Liverpool didn’t do bad when they got Ian Rush back..

  24. avenell says:

    Rasp.. are you both okay?

  25. London says:

    Hi Ave…….no Flamini is mustard 😉

  26. Nigel Chelmsford Gooner says:

    Can I start a new conversation? After listening to Paul Merson before the Pompy game I want to slash my wrists! Why does he always try and find fault with Arsenal? He has always done it and I just don’t get it. Is it because Wenger dumped him so soon after arriving? Alan Smith is another and even Parlour struggles to give us credit. Why do our ex players have this negativity about us????? Someone please tell me, while I look for a long rope.

  27. Ronnie says:

    I wish we could get hol of a tall, strong forwarder, similer to john carew.

  28. avenell says:

    Hi cypriotFan.. Wecome to Avenell Road..

    We all saw how good Denilson was when he got taken off against Villa and a proper player with some energy came on..

  29. avenell says:

    London .. you have waited 12 months for some good debate and now you have some.. well. words fail.

  30. London says:

    I have no problem with taking Flamini back for the rest of the season…….but it aint going to happen

    I have been smiling at Rasp, back to his squash buckling best, I haven’t seen him so happy in ages 😉

    Morning Rasp

  31. avenell says:

    Hi Nigel Chelsford Gooner and Ronnie.. you are free to comment now..

    Nigel I am sure someone will pick up on it..

  32. avenell says:

    Nigel.. I like Perry Groves.. he talks sense..

    Perhaps the others say what they feel, and us Gooners take it to heart that a hero critisises our club.

  33. Rasputin says:

    Sorry ave – you must be my alter-ego 😳

  34. Rasputin says:

    What about Carlton Cole Ronnie?

  35. gunaguna says:

    have u seen merida..? keen to see him play.. no flamini.

  36. JJ says:

    I never wanted Flamini to leave, he was a great player with his best years ahead of him. But he left. On a free. Stitched us up. No loyalty. Fuck him, let him rot on Milan’s benches. There are dozens of class DM’s we could buy if we needed to….

  37. Rasputin says:

    Morning London – I must admit, I am having fun 🙂 – unfortunately I have to go out soon so keep the debate going for me ……

  38. avenell says:

    Hi gunaguna. welcome to Avenell Road..

    I have seen flashes of Merida.. not yet for me..

    Flamini if he hadn’t of left and had stayed fit was probably Arsenal’s best player of the season 08..

  39. Anonymarse says:

    Flamini had two thirds of a good season with us (plus a good run at left back). Then he bailed out and pissed off to Milan. Bad career choice. At his best he was still nowhere near as good as Song. Denilson, Diaby and Ramsey are all better players now and deserve to play in Song’s absence.

    I hate it when people assess our youth signings like Wellington as if they are somehow an alternative to buying first team players. All the world’s top clubs need to be constantly scouting and recruiting top young players. Nobody does it better than us. Do people think we should stop doing that ? It doesn’t affect our chances of spending £20m on a striker this transfer window. It’s just part of the game.

  40. Rasputin says:

    We stuck with Song until he became the player we wanted. Flamini just began to realise his potential and we let him go …. what’s the difference?

  41. avenell says:

    Hi JJ.. and Anonymarse.. welcome to Avenell Road..

    We tried to flog Flamini to Birmingham and David Dein let his contract go down to a year.. We stiched Flamini up first..

    Then if someone offers you what you think is your true value in wages, can you blame him?

  42. peachesgooner says:

    Arsene always thought that Flamini was going to stay so he probably feels a little scorned that he walked out and thats why I don’t think it’ll happen……also the time we really needed him was last season before Song improved into the player he is now.

    Nigel your point about ex-players as depressing pundits is true. Don’t you think they turn into mere supporters once they have left and so have the same highs and lows as the rest of us………we have some fabulous players and we play divine football but we could do with some additions to the squad so that injuries don’t hamper our progress?

  43. Rasputin says:

    Hi Anonymarse – are you aware of the magnitude of our wage bill? We all love outrageously gifted youngster at Arsenal, but we are paying the wages of too many players who do not come up with the goods already. That must put a constraint on our ability to pay the required wages to established players we might like to sign.

  44. peachesgooner says:

    Which rasputin is going out…. 🙂

  45. Rasputin says:

    The one and only 😕

  46. peachesgooner says:

    Morning ave 😛

  47. avenell says:

    Hi Peaches.. bit hectic this morning..

    I don’t know where jonjon is.. I just found his post in drafts and stuck it on, now he has missed the fun..

  48. peachesgooner says:

    I don’t think we should be comparing Flamini with Song anyway – Flamini added more to our midfield and worked hard as a box to box player……and he made Cesc smile…

    Thierry for a few months makes much more sense to me….

  49. peachesgooner says:

    Why don’t you call him – he should be here…..

  50. kelsey says:

    You left yet rasputin 😉

  51. peachesgooner says:

    Morning kelsey – how are you 😛

  52. avenell says:

    That’s a good point Peaches..

    Also what a great utility player Flamini could be..

    cover for LB. RB and a few midfield positions.. we wouldn’t keep harping on about back up all the time..

    Flamini the one stop back up shop…

  53. dennis10 says:

    Arsene’ wont but anyone.And this season will end up without any silverware…after we have fought for both the PL and CL,but missed out because of some injured players.This is how it is,and how it will be….but I sure hope I’m wrong! There is so little that is missing before we have “Invincibles II”

  54. BABAR THE PIG says:

    I’m going for lunch

  55. avenell says:

    Some might even want him in goal somedays.. lol..

  56. avenell says:

    Hi dennis 10 welcome to Avenell Road buddy.

    BARBAR THE PIG, you enjoy.. 🙂

  57. kelsey says:

    OK if we believe that the flamster put himself about in his last season and we let him go for a reported 55K being not enough,why does theo get 60k a week get 60K a week when he get piles just sitting on the bench.Ade had one good season at 35K and next minute he basically thinks he’s TH14 and cons the club for a reported 80K+ a week.

    Wenger will not buy back players,his ego wouldn’t allow him.
    now we have Senderos who hasn’t played for 19 months competitively,and I can’t believe he MAY be our new signing in defence.

    We should be fighting on 3 fronts,the FA Cup used to be the highlight of every fan,the occasion in itself was tremendous.

    Now this Wellington lad.Why buy another Brazilian,generally they don’t make it in the PL, check for yourself,and they get homesick more than any other nationality.(see Jo went home for an extended Xmas to get some sun on his back,without permission)

    If Wenger doesn’t buy or loan an experienced striker and defender,he/we might not have another chance to win the PL for years,and he might as well demote himself to Youth Team Manager for the next 5 years.(I have a vision and BELIEF bla bla bla)
    City will continue to rape other clbs for their big players, another oil barron will come along, yet crystal palace can’t even pay their current wages and pompey and Hull could both be wound up.

    We need a happy balance, we have money,and we should stop wasting it on players wages who either are always unfit or simply not good enough.

  58. dennis10 says:

    Thanks Avenell..
    Bring in Fran Merida in the first team.
    I do think he can progress just like Cesc. He has the quality,no doubt about that.
    Forget Flamini,he had his chance….he can stay put on that bench in Milano

  59. peachesgooner says:

    Flamini the one stop back up shop… very good ave 😀

  60. kelsey says:

    that’s how i feel peaches 😉

  61. peachesgooner says:

    Excellent point about wages kelsey – no reason for Theos 60k or Ades 80k …..

  62. avenell says:

    dennis 10.. you are still getting held up for some reason, stick with it and I will try to sort it..

  63. king gooner says:

    “THE FLAMSTER”has had his day-he walked out for his”beyonce”moment-had a history of winding down contracts, it was no secret.therefore he got what was coming-it’s a shame but that’s life-as pointed out there are many others out there who can do the job(blaise matuidi)just one…

  64. peachesgooner says:

    Bit of a rant kelsey – Arsenal obviously need some help in sensibly sorting players wages……

  65. avenell says:

    I think the point is we want to win the Premiership and the CL this year, not have to wait for another wenger project to settle in..

    The Flamster would just fit right in.. we just use him for what we want…

  66. kelsey says:

    he needs someone like d.d. back at the club,not some foreign ponce like gazidis, someone who is arsenal through and through

  67. avenell says:

    It was Dein who sold us to all the foreign ponces though..

    He owned over 40% of Arsenal and flogged it to the Diamond man, the Russian and the Yank..

  68. GoonerGoose says:

    No to Flamini, he stuffed us and left on a free, he has said on countless interviews that Milan was dream move and his parents live nearby.

    Why should we pay money to bring him back? Would he leave on a free again if he came back?

    Can’t trust a deserter

  69. kelsey says:

    i forgive him ave 😉

  70. avenell says:

    Hi Gooner Goose your comments will come straight on now..

    Don’t forget there is no such thing as free now.. Look at Sol he came on a free but we had to make it up by paying him over £100k a week..

    If we got the Flamster back we wouldn’t have to pay him as much wages as we would have to pay a transfer fee..

  71. avenell says:

    Kelsey lol.. You are such a nice man..

  72. peachesgooner says:

    I could do that job – I have Arsenals best interests at heart and i wouldn’t be blackmailed by some silly footballer……oh wait a minute, I’m a mummy – I get blackmailed all the time…… 😦

  73. GOD says:

    They say ‘Never go Back’

  74. peachesgooner says:

    I’m sure DD wouldn’t have put up with the rubbish from Ade – how bizarre that we paid him a fortune to stay and then couldn’t wait to get rid of him…….

  75. Mentuza says:

    Flam left cos he wasnt good with what Wenger offered him. But as every shrewd business does, you give your employees reasonable and sustainable wages.Long-term stability is the key.So Its inconceivable for Wenger to take Flam back.

  76. RedandDread says:

    He will use a mixture of Denilson, Diaby & Rmasey to cover for Song and maybe even Eastman(d) or Coqulein. He can always move Nasri back into the middle to use in tandme with the afore-mentioned trio (once Bendter/Rosicky/Walcott are fit)

  77. avenell says:

    Hi GOD and Mentuza.. your comments will come straight on now.

    Long term stability stll needs ambition, that means trophies, that means the fans are happy..
    No long term stability for losers..

  78. avenell says:

    Hi RedandDread.. welome mate..

    Rosicky and Walcott fit at the same time could be a miracle..

    and it’s no coincidence we are doing better this year without walcott..

  79. Boho says:

    It’s too early to save Flamini. Let him stew in the wilderness another year or so. I can’t help but think, however, that the team has adapted to Song’s tempo and Flamini’s busy-ness might take a while for folks to adjust. Maybe I am wrong.

  80. avenell says:

    Hi Boho you are free to blog now..

    Vieira used to fit right in alongside Gilberto’s tempo..
    Sometimes opposites attract..

  81. GoonerGoose says:

    Thanks.

    As someone else said, he has a history of winding down contracts, he did it to join us and he did it go leave us.

    He was a one season wonder like Adebayor, who also wanted to leave after 1 good season, the only difference is that Ade was made to stay.

    And we all know how that worked out.

    We don’t need the mercenary back, he was a good player for us, but so was Ade at one point.

    Also, we need to get the best youth talent in, I’m sure noone we nearly signed C Ronaldo and Ibrahimovich as youth players.

    Can you imagine what we would be like with them in the team?

    Also, Wenger will buy if he can, he buys in every window, in hhe summer he spent £10mil on TV5 and had bids for Chamakh and Melo turned down.

  82. avenell says:

    GoonerGoose you went back into moderation..

    In an ideal world you may be correct, but jonjon is talking about this season.
    We need to start winning things or our best players will continue to dribble away and then we have to start the Song or the Diaby project all over again..

  83. London says:

    I have changed my mind, Flamini is not Marmite neither is he Mustard; he is quite clearly Blog Rocket Fuel.

  84. GoonerGoose says:

    Also, Flamini is probably on a high wage at Milan anyway, I can’t see him taking a pay cut to return and face the new 50% tax rate.

    As for Diaby, this might just be his season, he gives the team some strength and hopefully he will be more consistent.

    It was only a few years ago when Song was booed off the pitch, now people are stressing over him going to the ACN for a few weeks!

    Wenger showed ambition by getting rid of Ade and not making him the focal point, last season we scored more goals when he was injured and not playing and that has continued with him gone.

    In fact it’s even happening at Man City, with Ade out the team Tevez is tearing the opposition up!

  85. London says:

    GoonerGoose

    There is a slight difference in the sense that Adebayor was made to stay because he still had sometime on his contract….Flamini on the other other hand did not and as you know fucked off as soon as he could…..let him rot.

  86. London says:

    Boho

    I’m with you: let him stew in the wilderness.

  87. Fabby says:

    Sorry Gooners mate. Arsene Wenger will not do any signing. Sorry!

  88. London says:

    Song is head and shoulders above Gilberto already and when Song gets to the age that Gilberto was when first arrived there will simply be no comparison.

  89. London says:

    “Not some foreign ponce like Gazidis” This made me howl. Your on fire today Kelsey

  90. Usiu says:

    Flamini no!u dont buy shares coz its a big company n they r -tive.

  91. hh says:

    i,d love flamini back. he always gives his all and wouldn t take long to settle as he knows wengers system. could just be the missing link in the title race

  92. avenell says:

    Song won’t be right until March, did you read his interview on Arse.com?.. we could have blown it by then.

  93. London says:

    Fabby

    Did you expect to get Vermaelen? Did you expect to get Eduardo or Saga? Reyes? I could go on. There is still time

    What is your prediction for tomorrow’s team?

  94. London says:

    I’m not getting in a ruckus with you, your too busy today.

  95. avenell says:

    Welcome to Uslu and hh.. thanks for coming on to chat..

  96. London says:

    HH

    How much do you think Milan would sell him for?

  97. avenell says:

    London nothing normally stops ya.. 😉

    I have just phoned JJ to get his arse in gear.. have a row with him.. 🙂

  98. London says:

    Usiu

    What do you say to people who think that he could be the missing ingredient to us winning the league this season?

  99. London says:

    I’ll wait for a quieter moment and then ill have ya 😉

  100. JonJon says:

    hello guys.. 😉

    flaminins great and hes better than denilson all day long..denilsons game is one dimensional and predictive…flaminis game is based on energy…

    what do we need more?? an interceptor who gets blown off the ball and whos magical 5 yard passes always puts his team mates in trouble??? or a duracell bunny who can actually get box to box and roll his sleeves up when it starts to get messy

  101. London says:

    I hate it when you put it like that 😉

  102. hh says:

    on the button jon jon

  103. peachesgooner says:

    London – If Arsene did decide that a returning Flamini was the answer and he helped us to win the title how would you feel then? Come on …..don’t hold back cos its me…..

  104. Lady Arsenal says:

    WHEN WILL YOU LEARN??

    You said all this before the season started and we’re pretty much 1 point off the top.

    Just goes to show you know f all, and should trust in our boss.

  105. London says:

    Ok, no holding back….if my auntie had bollacks she would be my uncle……too hypothetical….it aint going to happen.

  106. peachesgooner says:

    Hi JonJon 😛

  107. peachesgooner says:

    Good answer 😀

  108. avenell says:

    Hi Lady Arsenal..

    We do trust the boss.. That’s why we call him Mr Wenger OBE.. we love him on here..

    But we do like to discuss what we can do to make the team better.

    You don’t get much fun out of Arsenal.com..

  109. London says:

    Lady Arsenal

    You tell him? Someone needs to…..what a great day I can’t stop laughing.

  110. JonJon says:

    hahahaha london//im going top use that from now on…

    lady gooner…whoever mentioned that we know everything?? and nobody has said we still wont win the league..

    we dont know..but it would give us a better chance if we strengthened the squad in january…that is after all what the window is for…and one of our best players is out for the season…

  111. avenell says:

    And Lady Arsenal.. you are now among at least 4 girls who frequent this site..

    We try to keep it nice.. 🙂

  112. JonJon says:

    hi legs.. 😉

  113. GoonerGoose says:

    Yeh Flamini would do a great job, but he is the ex girlfriend (or boyfriend for the ladies) that left you for a nice hot and sexy Italian, got dumped and came back to you.

    The sex might be great, but deep down you know they will probably leave you again any chance they got.

    We need committed players, who have the teams best interest in heart.

    If I had a choice between keeping Diaby or having the Flamster back, I would choose Diaby, at least I can trust him.

    Flamini had his heart set on joining Milan, all to do with his heritage and family being from the region, as he has said in interviews since joining them.

    Maybe he is going run down his contract yet again before another move.

    Anyway, Flamini will probably be a bit rusty, it’s not like he has played regularly.

  114. peachesgooner says:

    We have a large selection of players that are very similar and luckily are mostly happy to do the ‘square peg round hole thing’ but as we’ve seen with the curse of the left-back its good to have a proper replacement ready to step up.

    I think thats all most supporters would like – to feel secure that when the next injury hits we can handle it. Flamini can play as an attacking or defending mid-fielder aswell as left-back – not sure about keeper though 🙂

    Much as i love the sentiment JonJon I don’t think hes what we need – did I mention Thierry would be good on loan for 6 months 😆

  115. London says:

    GG

    What a great analogy…”Trust” I hadn’t thought of it that way before…hhhhmmmmm…..I probably do trust Diaby more come to think about it.

  116. JonJon says:

    gunnergoose…

    i get your point…but flamini would have never got the chance to join milan if we’d have give him a contract that tied him down for years..abit like we do now with theo and diaby and so on…theo was recently given a massive deal and hes done feck all…flamini did more in 6 months and it wasnt his fault his contract ran down..it was the clubs…

    if cescs contract was running down hed probably move to barca on a free because of his friends family etc…

    and he cant be no rustier than all the players weve got coming back from injury…i keep hearing theo,dudu etc need more games before they find form…so whats the difference in allowing that and then saying a new signing will be rusty?

  117. London says:

    Peaches

    I knew you would field the Hot Italian Sex comment 😉

  118. avenell says:

    A rusty Flamini would still do 12k.. While Denilson just lets the game pass him by..

  119. JonJon says:

    i dont trust diaby..not in a disciplined role…ive watched him long enough to know hes pretty useless at it and his best games have come when hes been let off the leash…

    hes played his best football as an attacker yet weve seen a couple a good performances..as an attacker..and ppl think hes ready to play DM…when has he ever played good at DM???

    leave him as an attacker…sign a DM if we need one..

  120. Lady Arsenal says:

    You can’t say we trust wenger and then imply that the likes of denilson, walcott and vela aren’t good enough. They need to be trusted or they’ll never improve. Don’t forget Henry took 20 odd games to win over the Arsenal faithful. Until then he was getting slated. If Wenger thinks they’re good enough, they fucking are.

    And flamini’s a c*nt. Who the hell is saying we’d take him back?

  121. London says:

    Lady Arsenal

    You have just become my new blog hero

  122. avenell says:

    Why can’t you have an opinion..

    Theo has been dropped because he wasn’t good enough so obviously you don’t agree with Arsene either.
    And look what happened when Denilson went off and Cesc came on the other day.. Denilson good enough.. nah..

  123. JonJon says:

    dont mean to be funny lady gunner but wenger also thought boa morte, stepanovs, wreh, jeffers,wright, van bronkhorst, etc etc were all good enough and he was wrong wasnt he…im sure he trusted thm but they all turned out to be flops and he sold them in the end

    we could trust theo for another 5 years and then what??? what if he hasnt improved??? that would mean weve spent over 30 million on a player whos done nothing when we could of gone out and just bought one for that price…

    wengers a genius..but he aint perfect…not all his players become superstars..

  124. JonJon says:

    and im saying we should take him back…

    flamini was a legend and the club walked all over him…no wonder he left…

  125. London says:

    Lady Arsenal

    People also forget that Henry never blossomed until he is 23 so to judge Walcott before that age is not comparing apples with apples, the same goes for Vela and Denilson is coming on leaps and bounds with his goals helping no end. “In Arsene We Trust”

  126. avenell says:

    The italian press are talking about his return too..

    Lady gooner .. just suppose he did return.. Would you boo him and not support him then?

  127. avenell says:

    London… Exactly Flamini never blossomed until he was 23 either..

  128. JonJon says:

    alliadiere??
    taylor??
    luhzny?

    all donkeys

  129. Lady Arsenal says:

    I apologise to all you ‘football thinkers’. You have every right to have an opinion.

    I knew Stepanovs would make an appearance after what i said. That’s a strong hand. jeffers too. what about stefan malz?

    My point is merely that Flamini is a c*nt. He fucked us. And you’d take him back because he’s got good stamina?

  130. avenell says:

    If Flamini had of been offered a better contract than 20k a year like Theo he might not have upped sticks..

    Would The great Theo be so loyal if he was on Matty’s money?

  131. London says:

    Good point Ave we should compare Denilson to Flamini when he is also 23……I think by then Denilson wil have blown his memory out of the water.

  132. avenell says:

    Thanks Lady G… we are nice really.. 😉 we just like a chat..

  133. JonJon says:

    but you could see the talent in henry from the start…he was improving…theos not improving..in 4 years ive not seen one shred of evidence to suggest hes going to be a superstar…

    and im actually a fan of vela..but if anyone thinks that if AA get a bad injury,on top of rvp’s that vela dudu and walcott can lead the line they really cant see the bigger picture…

  134. Herdsman says:

    Sorry jonjon but to call Flamini a legend is taking the p*ss !! A legend..???? Same as Rocky, TA, DB10, TH14, Brady, Mickey Thomas………. Please your having a laugh…. The fella woz getting solf cos he wasn’t as good as Gilberto simple as that he just fitted in once Gilberto got to old and knackered. He stitched up Marseilles to leave on a freebie and saw the dollars and did the same to us to fuk him, Anyone who wants to leave Arsenal aint welcome back under those circumstances end of. How can you compare Cesc to Denilson come on get real… Denilson isn’t Cesc but there are times the fella does a job so compare apples for apples don’t mess the fruit basket up lads…!

  135. avenell says:

    London, I know your Denilson love is a wind up..

  136. avenell says:

    Hi Herdsman Welcome to AR..

  137. gary says:

    AW will never bring back an ex-player because he demands Loyalty,Hleb & Flamini are shites and done really well for themselves,good riddance.Denilson is a decent player but Cesc is World class how avenell can even think of comparing the two,obviously knows a good player when he sees one !!DUH !!

  138. London says:

    If she shouted, onto the pitch, I would follow 😆

  139. avenell says:

    Didn’t The legend Mickey Thomas run off to the Dippers.. same thing as Flamini?

    Thierry run off with 10k wages in his sky rocket.. Brady he did the same… He won a FA cup missed a penalty in the CWC final and pissed off..

  140. JonJon says:

    wenger had 4 years to give flamini and new contract!!

    we should have gave him a new contract when he played at left back in the season we got to the CL final without conceeding a goal…can diaby or denilson play at LB??? thats how good flamini was…

    we then tried to flog him to birmingham the summer before he left but he declined and said he’ll see out his contract and leave on a free..which he ended up doing…then when wenger realised he was important to the team cos of diarra being a tosser and gilberto ageing it was too late…

    2006 was the year flamini should have been offered a new deal…not in 2008 when he had three months to run and he’d already spoken to milan….

    flamini left cos of bad management…i dont blame him one bit and for the sake of arsenal..the sake of the team id have him back tomorrow,

  141. peachesgooner says:

    Hi Lady Arsenal – he f*cked us because the club allowed him too, he was offered to Birmingham because we had Diaby!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Diaby was to play alongside Cesc and we all know how good he is in that role – Arsene wanted Diaby to be the DM – saw him as the new Vieira…………

    If Flamini had stayed we would have had a much happier Cesc last season and possibly would have been stronger in the mid-field.

    In the end we had to spend weeks worrying about Song in the middle and that affected the whole team.

    Trusting Arsene only works sometimes I’m afraid…..

  142. London says:

    “Compare apples with apples and dont mess the fruit basket up lads” There are some real gems on here today.

  143. avenell says:

    Hi Gary sorry for the delay.. welcome aboard..

  144. JonJon says:

    hi herdsman…

    your point had credibility until you mentioned mickey thomas…

  145. London says:

    Cat fight.

  146. Lady Arsenal says:

    peaches Wenger has NEVER seen diaby as the new vieira. We all did, but Wenger has never played him at DM.

    It’s beside the point anyway. Wenger would never have flamini back. Despite the fact that he’s not actually very good at football, Wenger is principled and would not take him back.

    Any chance we could clone vermaelen and stick him in front of the back 4?

  147. Herdsman says:

    I was waiting for that… MT ran off to the dippers…. I’ll tell him that next time I see him, think you’ll find he had a rather large disagreement with GG. Brady was entitled to leave we were crap in them days and he needed to test himself do you begrudge him leaving and as I see it the only player to really go elsewhere and do well. TH was crap the last 12 months but then again we had his best years. Flamini was paid for 4 yrs gave us one good year and tripled his wages at Ac… nice bit of work if you can get it. As like most footballers these days a pure mercenary who only see’s his wages. Far better options than him that’s for sure. Next you’ll be wanting Hleb back and telling me PV was a judas 2…???

  148. avenell says:

    If Arsene is always right.. why did he double the great Ade’s wages?

    We all make the odd balls up..

  149. Herdsman says:

    Question jonjon after 3 seasons would you of given Flamini a new contract cos am sure as shit 99% of fans would not of…!

  150. GoonerGoose says:

    But would Flamini win us the title?

    Would Flamini have ensured Arshavin didn’t hit the post against Burnley?

    Would Flamini have scored for us against Chelski when we dominated posession but played pass the parcel on the edge of their box?

    Would Flamini have stopped Sunderlands goal?

    Maybe he woudlnt have scored the own goal against Manure or given away the penalty against West Ham.

    But for me, the priority is a world class striker, if we score more than the opposition, we win.

    Simples

  151. peachesgooner says:

    Lady Arsenal – now you’re talking – Vermaelen in the back four and in front of it…. 🙂

  152. peachesgooner says:

    London 😦

  153. Lady Arsenal says:

    Interesting fact. Flamini has a law degree and he did the same thing to Marseille that he did to us. Pure self-interest.

  154. JonJon says:

    yes herdsman…

    flamini was a good squad player who was sensational as a LB in those 3 seasons…

    how can theo be given a new contract??…hes done naff all…and then flamini not offered one after all he did???

    doesnt make sense to me..

  155. avenell says:

    Herdsman.. a few of those reasons could be why Flamini left too..

    I would have Hleb back if we never had AA, Rosicky and Nasri..

    PV did flirt with other clubs yes.. It’s the way of the world.. yet when Flamini does it on a Kiddies wage no one seems to like it..

    He never had one good season he helped us to the CL final where the manager dropped him for an unfit Cole.. Who had already flirted with Chelsea.

  156. London says:

    Sorry Peaches

    I was getting carried away, your point is noted.

  157. Queen of Suburbia says:

    I liked Flamini but he bailed when he saw better players coming through.

    His main use was as a protector to a young Cesc. Cesc is a big boy now and doesn’t need anyone to look after him.

  158. Herdsman says:

    I ain’t making you wrong on Theo’s new contract or the fact that for 7 games at left back Flamini did a great job but he is still a judas fucker got offered alot more money than your saying and chose to leave in the wrong way, there are ways to leave a club and ways to piss people off and he just pissed most people off obviously not you 2. I wouldnt have the fucker back but as said that’s merely my opinion.

  159. avenell says:

    Hi Queen of Suburbia.. long time no see.. how’s the cafe?

  160. London says:

    Hello QOS

    Great point

    Hows the baby doing?

  161. peachesgooner says:

    Sorry Lady Arsenal – read the article

    http://www.arsenal.com/first-team/players/abou-diaby

  162. Herdsman says:

    Avenell, Flamini left 4 a team that didn’t even qualify for champs league…. he left for money simple as that.

  163. Queen of Suburbia says:

    Poliziano and i are doing a roaring trade Avenall 🙂

    Baby is great – very left footed by the looks of things!

  164. London says:

    Herdsman

    I would say he also left because he had been offered to Birmingham…….I mean who would want to live and work there.

  165. peachesgooner says:

    Hi QOS – where have you been hiding?

  166. Lady Arsenal says:

    Yes peaches, but that was in response to the question ‘is diaby the new vieira?’ that we were all asking. Wenger would never have mentionned it otherwise, it was just journalists creating a quote.

    The point about vieira is that he was a leader on the pitch, an organiser. As was flamini a bit. Diaby obviously is black and lanky with a great engine, but he couls never fill Pat’s boots. Wenger knows that.

  167. JonJon says:

    yes herdsman…id of been in that 1% 😉

    flamini was a good squad player who was sensational as a LB in those 3 seasons…

    how can theo be given a new contract??…hes done naff all…and then flamini not offered one after all he did???

    doesnt make sense to me..

  168. Tiki says:

    No Wenger never looks back, only forward. That’s what makes him great!

  169. peachesgooner says:

    I agree London, who would, it all adds up to having been very badly treated by the club which is the thing that I find so disappointing 😦

  170. avenell says:

    QoS.. Cambs or Cornwall st Ives?..

  171. JonJon says:

    herdman..do you really know MT?? hows he doing?

    hello QoS

  172. gary says:

    Flamini Hleb Cole Adeybayor all moneygrabbers,no Loyalty, would only bring back Henry on loan for this season

  173. Queen of Suburbia says:

    I’ve been reading more than writing lately peaches – something about using my senses in the right proportion i guess…plus been really busy with the business.

  174. Herdsman says:

    I would def not say Flamini was sensational for 3 seasons but he did well when called upon but when younger purely wasnt as good as Gilberto in midfield. Soon as PV left Gilberto didnt have the legs to protect Cesc. Arsenal did indeed offer him a contract in his last year he just wasn’t interested. As for Theo well he’s extremely frustrating as there could well be a very good player in him somewhere but he has the comfidence of a wet kipper and still even when he comes on his pace gives us options that noone else does and he still scares defences….. If only he could make a decision on his final ball….! As for ade pls don’t get me started on that prized piece of dung….!

  175. London says:

    I don’t believe that Flamini wasn’t offered a contract but it was never going to beat Milan becuase they didn’t have to pay a transfer fee and could sell him and get their money back if it all went wrong. It would be like competing with Man City in an auction, you may as well step back and save face.

  176. Queen of Suburbia says:

    You know I was joking about running a cafe in St Ives with Poliziano right Avenell?

    Although it would be Cornwall given the choice.

  177. Herdsman says:

    Yeh jonjon… he doin good……….! playing far to much “old boy footie” and flying all over the world as well the jammy git.

  178. Queen of Suburbia says:

    Flamini was offered a new contract and told the club he was going to sign it London…but then changed his mind when Milan came in.

  179. London says:

    you had me going for a while there QOS, I was trying to picture you both selling Ice creams in a little kiosk overlooking the sea 😉

  180. avenell says:

    QoS ..I don’t really know who polizano is.. I saw you on the other cough! 😉

    We are more down the middle of the two here..

  181. Fabby says:

    To London:
    You will remember what I said in the 1st of February.

  182. London says:

    Peaches

    I also see it that way, he was badly treated, but there you go, some get away.

  183. Sam says:

    i think alot of people are forgetting something. well firsty flamini wouldnt have left if wenger ad shown more faith in him earlier on, and secondly he is a great utility player, not just a great dm and with a team as injury prone it counts 4 alot!

  184. avenell says:

    From January Flamini was allowed to talk to any club.. So he was getting offers all the time.. It should never have reached that stage.

  185. avenell says:

    Welcome Fabby and Sam..

  186. JonJon says:

    lol herdsman..so we do agree on something then…although i could use stronger words.. 😉

    i just think flamini was more pushed than he jumped thats all…

    i can understand ppls frustrations with him labelling him judas and all but maybe if we’d have been more loyal to him he’d have been more loyal to us…

    hleb was a completely different scanario…he had time left on his deal and forced a move…flamini had no contract..his options were open..

  187. London says:

    Fabby

    I have just had another look up there and I don’t think you said anything about the 1st of Feb.

    Which team do you reckon Wenger will field tomorrow.

  188. avenell says:

    Jonjon… well done mate… No1 Arsenal post on NewsNow..

  189. JonJon says:

    old boy footie..old habits die hard huh?? 😉

    flying all over the world sounds good though…is he a speaker or something?

  190. London says:

    Sam

    No one, including Wenger, expected Flamini to have the season that he had. And there lies the problem, had it been anticipated then I’m sure he would not have been offered to Birmingham.

  191. Rasputin says:

    Nobody on here really expects Flamini to come back, it was a speculative post by JonJon.

    I would say that our policy (whether down to economics or the manager’s ‘mission’) to keep the faith with certain payers has been detrimental to the club during their metamorphosis into players worthy of the side. I suspect it has all been down to economics and the PR that we have been subjected to is just a smokescreen….. plus the manager is a stubborn so-and-so 😛

    As a footnote, those ever-so-faithful folks who are so scathing of Flamini would have to eat serious humble pie if he did return and cheer him all the way, just as I have had to with Sylvestre…

  192. Herdsman says:

    I was bein very restrained jonjon….. 🙂

    I think Flamini knew exactly what he was doing and as said by someone previously he had even told AW Xmas time he would sign a new deal but that as they say sums up the modern footballer. I reckon out of ALL the teams in the prem lge you could name loyal players on one hand….!.

  193. Enter Sandman... says:

    And so we just leave Song to rot do we…

  194. London says:

    The other thing that no one has mentioned was that Flamini used to get bood because he was so crap in the mid-field that’s before he had a chance at playing left back in the CL final season.

  195. peachesgooner says:

    Thats funny rasp I just sent you a text 🙂

  196. London says:

    Enter Sandman

    We need a bit more info than that mate

  197. Herdsman says:

    Why would anyone eat humble pie if Flamini returned Rasp..? firstly we all know it won’t happen and second I’d just be silent, I don’t ever slag off any player in and Arsenal shirt but that don’t mean I have to cheer him either, I didn’t with barndoor last yr…!. We all know Aw is a stubborn arse he may also have seen Flamini as a case that meant from then on noone escapes on a freebie…!

  198. avenell says:

    Hi Enter Sandman Song doesn’t rot because we have Denilson or vice versa..

    If Song is our best option he will play.. a bit of competition for places doesn’t hurt anyone..

    Why can’t Flamini play with Song is there an unwritten rule?

  199. London says:

    Herdsman

    What is you definition of loyalty nowadays….there’s a post there anyone

  200. Queen of Suburbia says:

    My understanding that Flamini indicated as early as November that he was prepared to re-sign Avenell but I may be wrong as I can’t remember for the life of me where I heard that. Even so, he’s in the past.

    The players we’ve got now are better especially in a 443 which i don’t think would suit Flamini at all. And we sure don’t need another left back!

  201. Herdsman says:

    No j-j he doesnt enjoy the speaking although he has started to do a lot more tv work commentating on foreign tv coverage. He still enjoys a kick about but think he enjoys the socialising more shall we say………. 😉 I tell him he walks round the pitch now in any case…! lol

  202. avenell says:

    I dearly hope Cesc = loyalty..

    We get a good player for us, then we give him a decent contract, treat him fairly and he gets a few medals..

  203. avenell says:

    Herdsman… I saw him in the masters.. he’s put a bit of timber on but like you say he still gets about..

  204. Herdsman says:

    London, Loyalty is not leaving for an extra 5 grand a week when who ever comes knocking on your door, yes we/they are all human but when is 50k a week not enough, when is money not enough to say hold on this club brought me through looked after me and I like it here I wanna stay and win trophies. All they say now is yep extra 5k a week buys me a new Bentley…! they dont give a shit about the club the shirt or the fans it’s all about themselves and what’s in it for them.

  205. London says:

    I see no hypocracy in the idea of thinking Flamini is a disloyal bastard who chose to take Milan’s money rather than stay at a club that had helped him so much and cheering his name if he returned. You wear the glorious Red and White of Arsnal and you are a good guy and if you leave so does my love.

  206. JonJon says:

    and your restraint is respected herdsman.. 😉

    so true about loyalty..who would have expected henry to leave 1 year into a new deal after he said it would be his last contract and take 10million of the clubs coffers with him…

    enter sandman..hi..no song is like cesc..hes one of the first names on the team sheet..but its all about squad depth isnt it.??? we need the players who can come in to replace like for like.. asking diaby to do songs job and asking denilson to do cescs while they are out doesnt fill me with confidence…against the weaker teams they can do a job…but look what happened against villa..that game had 0-0 written all over it until cesc came on…i dont think we have the depth…

    and i really think a midfield of song cesc flamini would be awesome..

  207. Herdsman says:

    j-j I think the TH thing woz purely PR, we got a decent amount for him he got to leave and play 4 Barca and most Arsenal ppl still love him do they not…? Also noone really know’s what the divorce played in him wanting/needing to leave.

    I notice you don’t mention Ramsey or Rosicky j-j…?

  208. Scotty says:

    It makes sense to every arsenal fan I’ve spoken to but I’m not sure wenger wants an old player back, but he is world class and has found the grass isn’t greener so a return will look stronger for him over any other ex player including henry!

  209. London says:

    Flamini has now been elevated to world class…How did you arrive at that Scotty?

  210. JonJon says:

    yeah i agree..i think wenger needed a big name at the club to ensure he filled the new stadium..

    probably he had a gentlemans agreement with henry to stay for another year and put bums on seats when the emirates first opened and then he’d let him have his move..

    very PR..

    i think ramsey isnt ready yet and wont be for another few years..he needs blooding still against the weaker teams and i dont think he’ll be ready for the pressure matches against the big sides for another couple of years or so…

    and i really love rosicky…but i dont think he’ll ever make a true comeback..he needs game time, but he gets injured again..then he recovers and needs game time and gets injured again…as time goes on i find it harder and harder to imagine him in arsenal colours next season…

    if wenger does sign a midfielder, it wont be killing ramsey, denilson, song or diaby..it will be rosickys place in the squad…

    but as we have enought attacking mids already, i think a flamini type player is on the cards because song and denilson are not enough…

  211. avenell says:

    Scotty…. I didn’t foresee this much resentment against Flamini… What reception do you think he would get at the Emirates?..
    I hope it isn’t fan power like Megson got at Bolton..
    Gooners are better than that arn’t they?

  212. JonJon says:

    london you make me smile..

    ‘elevated to world class’ lmao

  213. Herdsman says:

    Well We dis-agree on Ramsey then cos I think the boy is very very close….! he’s got a great brain on him and has a good engine…. Time will tell, Rosicky is very important for us as he’s like Cesc in so far as he dictates the tempo of the team and when neither are playing thats what we miss to break down the teams that sit back and say “come on then lets see what you got’ most times we then play sideways cos we have no idea how to break em down and try the ball thru the idea of a needle crap in and around the pen box. All I want is a 25 yr old Vieira… Not to much to ask is it…? 😉

  214. rico says:

    Evening everyone – fine post JJ, mighty fine 🙂

    I hope Flamster never gets to wear our shirt again, but I have said that before 😦

  215. London says:

    Welcome to the fray Rico

  216. mayo says:

    cannot believe arsenal fans want flamini back, we offered him 60k a week and he fucked off to milan because he thought they were better,we certainly dont need him, what about bringing 1 of the youngsters to the first team, benik afobe or giles sunu

  217. JonJon says:

    lol herdsman..a 25 year old vieira would be awesome right now..

    hi rico..yes i know your feelings on the flamster…he didnt get a xmas card from you this year..

  218. London says:

    Mayo

    Add, Eastmond, and Coquelin to that list.

  219. Herdsman says:

    What we could do with even is a few of those big lumps in the reserves being 20/21/22 not 16/17/18….! Frimpong, JET, Coquelin, Eatmond to name just 4….. All of whom not scared to put their foot in…!

  220. Herdsman says:

    Ditto…….. London….!

  221. alfamilano says:

    Last time Arsene was in this type of situation, needing someone short term, he bought Silvestre. He’s been OK but I think it was a mistake. Who would be the equivalen t? A defensive midfielder past his best on a short contract with another top team? Racking my brains…

  222. avenell says:

    Mayo we may have offered him 60k a week but there was no transfer fee.. We paid that for Vermaelen
    (£60k a week = £3 million a year over 4 years = £12 mill)
    plus we have to pay his wages on top.. it’s not as simples as just wages these days..
    So really Flamini was still as cheap as chips..

  223. rico says:

    I thought WOW when I logged on London, its really good to see.. And hats off to JJ for such a stiring post..

    Noh JJ, not I my list this year or ever, I know many think AW got it wrong, but I think Flamony could have been a bit better behaved himself. I feel he led AW up the garden path a bit because AW kept saying he thought he would stay right up until the last minute..

    Flamoney has made his bed as far as I am concerned, I would rather we buy a player who really wants to play for us without keeping an eye on his own potential stock market…

  224. alfamilano says:

    Patrick already discussed to death of course but I reckon he would do the job then coach from the end of the season.

  225. Herdsman says:

    You reckon PV knees can give us 4 months alfa….??

  226. rico says:

    mayo, I am with you, he wanted more and went, his parting gift was ‘up yours’ to AFC, at least Diarra said play me or sell me….

    I hope his splinters cause him problems in his old age… 😉 😉

  227. rico says:

    ave – chips are expensive these days 😉

  228. kelsey says:

    not used to all this traffic in leafy marbella.

    is lady arsenal = queen of suburbia + poliziano involved as well, if so i need to express something…..by a country mile 🙂

  229. JonJon says:

    ditto london and herdsman..

    ive been a huge admirer of coq and jet for quite some time..but i think their age and lack of experience hinders them a little…

    i think in 5 years time they’ll be fantastic..but i also feel we need someone now…

    remember a couple of seasons ago when we were running away with the league?? wenger didnt re inforce in january and then rosicky and dudu were crocked..with rvp already out we lost momentum cos we didnt have the depth…im hoping lessons have been learned form that year and wenger doesnt make the same error…

    we are in this title race big time…lets keep the pressure on and bring in the cavalry…just in case

  230. London says:

    Herdsman

    I expect Eastmond to start tomorrow

    My guess at Wenger’s team.

    ———Fabinaski
    Sagna,Senderos,Silvestre,Traore
    –Ramsey,Eastmond,Rosicky
    ——–Arshavin
    ——Eduardo,Diaby

  231. Rasputin says:

    Herdsman,

    Maybe Flamini had made his mind up, and possibly our poor treatment of him prior to that decision wasn’t relevant, but just for the record, we made a huge mistake letting Flamini, Gilberto and Hleb all leave with no replacement. The ’emerging midfielders’ have subsequently shown that they were 2 years off first team quality.

  232. avenell says:

    Has anyone seen PV4 play recently.. I wasn’t impressed when I watched him for France a while ago and certainly wasn’t when he returned to Highbuty in the CL..

    I think we are all still in love with the old PV4..

  233. Rasputin says:

    Actually I meant Diarra – yes I know he’s a scumbag, but a good player all the same.

    Diarra was known to be a troublemaker, but you can’t argue that is why we let him go when Ade had the same reputation and we gave him a huge pay rise…..

  234. avenell says:

    I was told Diarra refused to play in a couple of CC games…. even Ade didn’t go that far..

  235. alfamilano says:

    Maybe I’m dreaming of the past but we’d probably only need 10 games from him, maybe for 60 minutes at a time. 10 hours of football? I reckon he could get himself up for the old shirt.

    I did wonder about van Bommell as well, he was rumoured to be coming to us a few years ago, past his best now still pretty decent although not so defensive, but strong.

  236. Rasputin says:

    Coquelin is really quality. He will be the player we need right now in 2-3 years. Eastmond is also good, but I can’t quite understand why he has leapfrogged Coquelin unless Coquelin has been injured

  237. London says:

    I think there is a slight difference between a pain and a trouble maker, Diarra was so disruptive that he was told not to come any where near the training ground, Ade’s mistake was that he scored 30 goals in the EPL and wanted more than the derisory 35k per week that we paid him; and was that so stupid? The quid pro quo was that he extended his contract enabling the club to sell him making an even greater profit.

  238. JonJon says:

    rasp you forget diarra too…wenger let him go first..then the rest followed in the next window..and wenger replaced them with a bunch of kids..

    last year was very frustrating…

    i think it was a year more designed to develop the babies rather than challenge for the league…

  239. Herdsman says:

    Think 5 years is way off j-j… make that a yr or 2… Totally agree on buying now though, AW procrastinates when he should be pro-active. All this crap about stopping the progress of the young ones is bollox, a great older player brings out the best in the young uns and will win us the league, it’s there 2 be won and if he buys 2 old heads it’s a win win situation he gives us more of a chance to win the league gives the young ones a boost and brings in a bit of the experience that we need. I still reckon Jan 30th he’ll be procrastinating and I so fuckin hope I am wrong….!

  240. avenell says:

    It seems ages ago when we played Coquelin in the Emirates Cup.. he looked nearly ready back then.. but then so did wilshere..

  241. London says:

    Hi Alfa

    Dreaming of the past? You should feel quite at home on here.

  242. JonJon says:

    kelsey 😆

  243. Herdsman says:

    Think our biggest cock up Rasp was letting all those players leave over the space of 12 months and then we have babies trying to dictate games and have experience…. he should of kept at least one of those to help with the youngsters but its all to late now lets just hope Mr Stubborn doesnt do the saem thing yet again this transfer window.

  244. alfamilano says:

    London,

    Lazyboyor looked like he never wanted to go any where near the training ground.

  245. London says:

    Alfa

    Although, he was often seen braking into a sprint on his way to the bank.

  246. Herdsman says:

    Your having a laugh london how could that prick sprint with all that dosh in his kit bag…?

  247. alfamilano says:

    Only to have his bank manager tell him that he was already 3 yards offside.

  248. London says:

    I’m out for a while

  249. alfamilano says:

    So no takers for van Bommell then?

    What about Puyol? Ultra defensive but I reckon he would slot in front of the back 4. I don’t think Hunt would have made it to the 2nd half if Puyol had been playing against Hull.

  250. Rasputin says:

    Agreed Herdsman – that was the point I was making 😉

    I really can’t see us signing anyone except maybe a ‘Sylvestre type’ …. anyone better than that and they are going to expect first team football now and in the future and when the injured players return we will be overstaffed!!

  251. kelsey says:

    I think wenger is bluffing the media.he is finally learning,his subs are now eventually making sense,and i believe he will be buying.he is telling the media the opposite on purpose.

  252. Davi says:

    I dont understand how you can say vela hasnt been cutting the mustard, he’s barely played. He had one quite bad game where he actually played fine but missed a couple of good chances.
    Up till that game vela had actualy been playing very well, but I think wenger destroyed his convidence by choosing to play a winger up front rather than go with the only recognised forward left in the squad for the meaningful PL games.
    That said, I agree a forward signing would likely be vital for us to really have a chance of winning anything as these injuries are really killing us.

    This is such a negative article btw, diabys not good enough, denilson’s not good enough. Its just the same old crap really.
    Give diaby a chance, he might have finally turned a corner. I disagree hes played well for only a half at a time against weak opposition. He perhaps played *exceptionally* well in only one half, but for the first time hes actually played to a good standard throughout these matches. The opposition isnt that weak either to be fair. Portsmouth and villa both turned up to play against us. They didnt give us the games easy. Villa are a top 8 to, maybe even top 4 side, and portsmouth do have good players. They struggle to finish but they do have good players. Liverpool found out about that.

  253. avenell says:

    van bommell blotted his copybook when he kicked the crap out of us in the CL all those years ago, I would have a bash at the other Madrid Diarra though..
    What’s he like now his knee is better?

  254. JonJon says:

    sorry guys my connection keeps going…

    i think wenger will sign..but he’ll wait until the last minute again to try get a few quid off the price..even though weve managed to find a few quid already for a player who wont be coming until 2011!!!

    i hope its not the case…but arsene has a history of dragging his transfers out…

  255. Rasputin says:

    We are about to enter the crucial period of the season in the next 3 weeks – its a shame we have to talk about ‘giving a player a chance’ we need reliable quality not hope that a player comes good. This is our best chance of winning the prem since the Invincibles (could have been different in 2008 if Dudu hadn’t been injured)

  256. Herdsman says:

    Prob with Van Bommell Alfa is put him in an Arsenal shirt he will get sent off every other week but he would be ideal, as for kicking the crap out of us Avenell isn’t that just what we want/need…? We don’t need a superstar and maybe not even a striker if we can keep the midfield solid we have enough attacking players and options… I’d want an over the hill (nearly) ex-superstar to get us to the end of the season with a trophy and not uset the apple cart with young players or getting in the way for yeasr to come exactly what ur saying Rasp…! far to many want a superstar which is never gonna happen less we can hae Torres please…. pretty please… 😉

  257. Rasputin says:

    Agreed Herdsman, Torres is exceptional and totally out of our budget. We all like to go off into fantasy at times. Certain bloggers on here actually thought we were going to buy David Villa in the summer.

    My particular lunacy makes me wish that DD would admit the error of his ways, apologise and return to work alongside AW to recreate that partnership, because I don’t believe Arsene has been as balanced in his judgement since DD left.

  258. JonJon says:

    hi davi..

    i actually like vela..but what im saying is if AA gets inured and with dudu still picking up the odd knock..can we really rely on vela and walcott to push us to glory..i dont think so…

    as for diaby..im glad hes started to play well..but when he strings together a run of 20-30 games of top drawer performances like cesc and song do then i’ll really start to believe in him..until then i dont see how a couple of good displays in 4 years of waiting is anything to get giddy about…

    and also the point about diaby is using him in songs role.. can he really do it?? i dont think he can..if wenger asks diaby to play a more disciplined role we will just see the same old diaby weve been seeing for the past few years…

    leave him as an attacker..if we need cover for song then we should go buy one..

  259. Davi says:

    Im not saying we shouldnt sign anyone but I dont see the need to go claiming the players we have are poor. Diaby has helped win a couple of games and is looking good. He has the talent to be one of the best in the world imo. Like song, hes going to come good eventually, so maybe that time is now? Honestly, Ive seen the good side to his game a lot, but Ive never seen him play like this. Hes much more focussed now. If he keeps going he will be recognised as a really excellent player by the end of the season. Hes already got 5 goals in 15 games. I think theres more to come.
    The 2008 season I actually think was stolen from us. It wasnt just the horrendous injuries that defeated us. There was a run of something lke 8 games starting with the birmingham one where the ref would get a BIG decision wrong against us. Like a goal being called offside when it wasnt, or the other team scoring an offside goal, or giving a ridiculous penalty etc. We weren’t playing well, but it still took ref decisions for us to drop so many points as in most of those games we actually did enough to win, except something uncontrollable went against us.

  260. Herdsman says:

    In all honesty Rasp don’t think Torres is out of our budget BUT there is no way we would spend that kind of money on one player. As for DD can’t stand the bloke…! Anyone who pledges his love for the club like he does doesnt then try backstab the board and then sell all your shares in the club you profess to love..? Edelman was def a mistake lets see what Gazidis comes up with the next 12 months least he def taken some of the worklaod off AW.

  261. Davi says:

    JonJon – yeh I agree with all that. As I say, I think diaby has turned a corner, but time will tell.
    That’s why Im saying i agree signings might be vital because we are only one or two more injuries away from complete collapse. I just dont agree with the way some things were put in the article. Denilson and diaby have been performing great recently, and vela (and walcott actually) shouldnt be dismissed so calouslly. They have a lot to offer.
    I agree that signing a striker and a defensive midfielder would do the trick and we’d have a very good chance of winning something this year with that. I think wenger will only go for a striker tho…

  262. JonJon says:

    herdsman, rasp and me had this conversation about torres the other day..what a player..perfect for us..but unless a miracle happens i cant see it…

    good to dream though.. 😉

  263. Rasputin says:

    I accept your personal animosity towards DD – a lot of people (ave included) feel the same way, but don’t forget he originally upset the Board by trying to bring Kroenke in …. and look wher we are now, he is on the Board!!

  264. Herdsman says:

    How about we just sign and old centre half and an old defensive midfilder…. Prob solved, we keep going on about a striker but god forbid TV5 or Willy G get an injury cos that is then us well and truly fucked and we all know it, oh shit I forgot we always got peanut head and Senderos to rely upon…! enough said…!

  265. Davi says:

    Torres is a dirty cheat now. gerrard converted him, or it looks that way to me (I am biased tho).
    Didnt see much of torres in spain but i didnt think he was such a bad diver when he first joined liverpool.
    Also hes injury prone! We need someone who can play a ton of games really. Dzeko looks to be clearly the best option, its just a question of whether we can get him.

  266. Davi says:

    herdsman – well, song wont be gone that long. A DM would suffice imo. A lot of good DMs can play CB well anyway.
    If only djourou hadnt got injured. He could have played song’s position during the ACN and covered for our CBs. Hes another world class talent in the making.

  267. JonJon says:

    i agree with herdsman

    you know my feelings on DD, rasp…feck him..

    cheers davi..so we agree on the signings but we disagree on the content..thats fine pal..if we agreed about everything they would be naff all to talk about…

  268. Herdsman says:

    Point taken Rasp but he purely did that to feather his own cap and when Stan turned on him for doing things behind the boards back he ran off to Jabba the Hut to see if he would bank roll him into being the next Arsenal Chairman…! I just think far to many ppl give him to much credit for things that in the long run when you look at how the mancs have killed us off the pithc commercially that was DD with his thumb up his arse as well and now we playing catch up on that front as well cos we still miles behind them when it comes to marketting the club and merchandising and DD has to take lots of the blame.

  269. rico says:

    I reckon Coquelin could start at RB in that team London …

  270. JonJon says:

    i dont know much anout dzeko..but everyone thinks hes hot stuff so i’ll take your words..

    but torres for me is something else…a 75% fit torres will still get you 20 goals a season…

    whereas a 75% fit walcott will need 6 months off to make sure he’s ok for the world cup…

  271. Herdsman says:

    Agree Davi a good def mid would work but lets be pro active and buy cover for the centre halves as well just in case, won’t hurt will it and if they both old and get a few games and a few bob it wont hurt anyone or piss anyone off and allow to rotate a little more with a few older heads

  272. Herdsman says:

    Torres has only started diving since gerrard taught him how to cheat, Torres alwasy injured cos Rafa pushes him back into the team knowing full well they desperate to have him playing. Can you imagine the goals that lad would score in anArsenal shirt… scary…!

  273. JonJon says:

    rico, ramsey can play RB aparently…

    herdsman…your last point about CB’s is what concerns me about song…not only is he a fantastic midfielder hes also the dogs at the back…

    if that boy picks up an injury, and then we lose either TV or gallas we could be right up the creek without a paddle…

  274. JonJon says:

    torres would smash all records playing in our team..such a waste playing for those losers…

  275. Davi says:

    Torres is a great player no doubt, but I think if he played for us, hed just spend even more time injured.
    We dont seem to have great luck with injuries. I think theres more too it than just luck or buying injury prone players.
    It must be either something to do with training, or the physios or the opposition just “rough us up” too much, but I wouldnt say Id recommend torres as a wise investment.

    I’ve only seen dzeko in a game once, against Utd, but he does look class. Hes a bit like adebayor on form. Hes clearly a great finisher as well. He scored in that game and his record overall is fantastic, and shows he doesnt get injured often. I think he’d score a tonne of goals for us.

  276. Herdsman says:

    That’s just ruined it Davi you just likened Dzeko to barndoor…………..!

  277. JonJon says:

    another thing with torres is that hes got PL game time..and he’s good at it…

    but i suppose if your a quality player you can play in any league…just look at Arshavin..players like him make impacts from the start so im hoping wengers got another like him lined up…

  278. JonJon says:

    lmao…yeah thats messed it right up…we dont want another tosser…im still having nightmares and waking up in sweats over the last one.. 😉

  279. Herdsman says:

    j-j your not drooling by any chance are you…?

  280. Herdsman says:

    if ur waking up in sweats j-j thats more than that c*** ever got into on the pitch….!

  281. Herdsman says:

    j-j if your waking up in sweats thats more than that useless c*nt ever got into on the pitch….!

  282. JonJon says:

    lol herdsman any talk of superstars makes me drool…

    we normally have to wait 5 years for them to develop..its very rare we see wenger stood in a photoshoot holding a shirt with a superstar these days…

  283. Davi says:

    Lol, Im talking about playing style, not attitude. Dzeko looks to be a better finisher too.

  284. Herdsman says:

    Last superstar I saw him with was Kevin Costner 😉

  285. Herdsman says:

    Shit Davi he wouldn’t have to be that good 2b a better finisher than barndoor…! He looks ok but still not sure about him…!. I’m with j-j stop all this messing abt lets just go get Torres and be done with it…! 🙂

  286. London says:

    I understand the call Rico but I am not as convinced as others seem to be that he is ready for the FA Cup. I would deffinitely start him in the CC next season though.

  287. Davi says:

    Hehe, torres would end in disappointment. Its not even realistic anyway is it? I cant imagine liverpool selling to us for a reasonable price, and I dont know if he’d even want to join

  288. Herdsman says:

    Of course it’s not realistic Davi nor is the shit from down the rd winning the league but doesnt stop us wishing…. 🙂

  289. London says:

    We have as much chance of getting Villa as we do of getting Torres, what’s more they would cost the same, so why not lust after Villa, at least the club he plays for want to sell him.

  290. Davi says:

    Well villa actually said he wanted to come to us didnt he?

  291. Herdsman says:

    To be honest London think Villa very similar to what we got think Torres is a much better finisher we need someone on the end of what we create not a creator and a player who scores a few goals….!?!?!

  292. London says:

    No but we can dream.

  293. Herdsman says:

    Villa then said he’s never leave Spain….! SO much is agent talk we never ever know the truth til a bloke is in the shirt…!

  294. London says:

    I don’t really see either of them as creators, they are both finishers to me.

  295. JonJon says:

    ade really was a scumbag..anyone who blogs with me regular knows i seen it coming…i hated him for ages before he left and i knew hed go to citeh…i did a post about it a while back…

    i got loads of stick for giving him shit but he prooved me right in the end..some of his displays for the money he was on was un fucking believable…i could have done a better job…and id of done it for free…

  296. London says:

    I know I have read countless interviews with him saying that he doesn’t want to leave Spain. And I supose that even if he did want to come to London we would be out bid by that lot down the road.

  297. Davi says:

    yeh, david villa has 12 goals in 14 this year.
    I think he can finish, lol

  298. Pritpal says:

    what would you guys say if adriano came to us in january? i know that I for one would love it as he has all the attributes that we are currently looking for. Big, strong, can score, has a fierce shot and most importantly he’s FREE. Could be our drogba!

  299. rico says:

    The Dippers are being outplayed by the Mighty Reading…

    Come on you RRRRRRR’sssssssss 🙂

    David Villa 🙂

    1-0 READING 🙂 🙂

  300. rico says:

    I would love to see Villa in our shirt, mme, not sure if I am repeating myself…

    JJ/London, just thought that if AW is resting players tomorrow as he says he is, Sagna has to one of those being rested surely…?

  301. JonJon says:

    i thought ricos ears would pop up with talk of villa…

    and liverpool losing…

    pritpal…i heard the reason adriano left inter is because his father died and he went off the rails and became an alcoholic…he turned up to training when he wanted and the club let him go back to brazil…

    hes supposed to be a bit on the big side now and still a raging alcoholic…

    no doubt he was a super player in his time but i dont think even wenger could turn his career round…

  302. JonJon says:

    maybe sagna will be rested rico..but wengers chopped and changed sagna with eboue alot this season..i see no reason why he cant play a few matches on the trot…

    but if wenger does rest him, wenger has plenty of young guns who can play there…eastmond, coq, ramsey..

    i think any of them could do the job aginst wham..but it will be interesting

  303. Pritpal says:

    JonJon thats what he was like but he’s lost the weight now and this season fired flamengo to their first brazilian title in almost 20 years with 19 goals in 30 appearances. If you don’t believe me have a look for yourself:

    Would love wenger to make a 6 month loan bid for him at least.

  304. Herdsman says:

    if Adriano woz that good a whole host of teams would want him on a freebie… he must still be on the piss…??

  305. Rasputin says:

    Been out for a while, just to conclude the previous topic, I’m not a lover of DD, I just want the old Arsene back. History has shown that if anyone is in power for too long, their judgement becomes suspect (Thatcher, Blair) Most geniuses are very brilliant at one thing and not great at others. Arsene needs someone to keep him within the bounds of reality.

    We were never going to be buy Villa, or Torres, Dzeko may just be within our range if he is around £15m, but what do we do when RVP returns?

  306. rico says:

    fair point jj about sagna, he has had a few games out

    David Villa…. puuuurrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrr 🙂

  307. JonJon says:

    could be worth a punt pritpal..

    never say never..

    who’d have thought anelka would have made the comeback he did?? he was playing for fenerbache and bolton before his career took off again…

    so it is possible

  308. Herdsman says:

    Think Gazidis maybe just the foil AW needs Rasp very opposite to how AW thinks which is also good, last thing AW needs is a yes man in the top position who doesnt test his bounderies or doesnt throw a spanner in the works of what he thinks is the right way or his way..!

  309. Rasputin says:

    I hope you are right Herdsman. Gazidis used to work for Kroenke. His allegance should be for Arsenal only but he may be ‘Stan’s man’ on the inside. I’d like to believe the reports that said it was Gazidis who pulled the strings to get us AA last January.

  310. rico says:

    I have to go for the evening, family coming over… 😦

    JJ, I am sure your post today will have had the record number of comments on AR – should I be right…

    Well done you, you deserve it… 🙂

    You cheeky old git 😉

  311. rico says:

    9,849 views today JJ, Well blow my socks off, WOW WEE 😛 😛

  312. Herdsman says:

    Well as long as he does what’s best for the club I don’t really cares who’s “man” he is….! Arsene needs to be told we are a couple of shrewd buys away from being able to win the league and needs to be told go find the ppl to do it Arsene…… AA def doesnt come across as and Arsene buy does it…..! who cares though if thats what gazidid brings to the table then great and if Stan needs Arsenal to be successful to sell the club to the North American market then that should also mean pushing Arsene into the transfer market but then again we’ll see come the end of Jan.

  313. avenell says:

    I make it 10,686.. rico..lol… keep up.. 🙂

  314. Rasputin says:

    We made approx. £18m on Ade (excluding his wages) so I suppose that makes him a good buy, but I never saw him as a typical AW purchase.

    Nasri and TV are typical Arsene I’d say, and in both cases, we were quite up front in our intentions, but also neither were being sought by other clubs and so it was relatively easy. I don’t think he ever likes getting into a tussle with another club over a player. Once we’d shown interest in Chamakh, loads of other clubs started sniffing around and he’ll be even more popular if he can leave on a free in the summer.

  315. kelsey says:

    In over 50 years of supporting arsenal we have had some dross and some brilliance.i was there the night we had 4000 at highbury against Leeds, but never in my lifetime have i despised a player more than adebayor, and the intelligent man wenger is,fell for it hook,line and sinker.

  316. Azabaxe says:

    There are precious few strikers available who would fulfill the needs of Arsenal at the moment. Huntelaar might be an option, but somehow doesn’t seem like the kind Arsene would go for and Djzeko (Sp??)is going to be expensive. My personal favorite is at the moment rotting as a fourth choice striker at Man City, Roque Santa Cruz. Why Arsene didn’t pick him up when he was available is a mystery to me. I have the feeling that Arsene won’t pick up anyone at al.

    Mattheu Flamini back? Zero chance. The reason he left was because he never figured in Arsene’s long term plans. Diaby was always Wenger’s designated automatic-midfielder-other-than-Cesc. Diaby took his time to develop and in his place (and Flamini’s and Lassana Diarrá’s absences) Song took over that spot. I can’t see Flamini coming back and claiming a spot over Diaby, who’s finally coming into his own, or Song, who’s become the only indispensable Arsenal player besides Cesc. So, if Matt comes back, it’ll be in the role that he had when he left, and never automatic first choice. Never going to happen.

  317. Rasputin says:

    Haha kelsey and that ‘unintelligent’ prick MH then paid us £23m for him…..

    EE used to love Ade, but I was impressed at the way he shunned him before the CC game when Ade tried to shake hands….. he is certainly my most hated Arsenal player of all time.

  318. avenell says:

    Hi Azabaxe.. welcome to Avenell Road..

  319. Herdsman says:

    Nothing wrong with MH Rasp 🙂 I thank him for wasting such stupid money on such a useless wanker……… lol

  320. avenell says:

    lol…. when we said that we had a load of Citeh fans saying it was sour grapes and we were jealous.. er no..

  321. avenell says:

    psst herdsman, London was his biggest fan until he left..

  322. Herdsman says:

    Hmmmmm I shall refrain from making said comment on london’s ex fav player then Avenell…. less said the better…!

  323. JonJon says:

    lmao…

  324. rico says:

    mine was at the time of typing ave!! 😉

  325. rico says:

    11,232 now! 😉

  326. rico says:

    TTFN – stay safe all….

  327. avenell says:

    Rico.. Second best month ever and it’s only 2 days old.. lol…

  328. avenell says:

    The Dippers did well .. haha.

  329. London says:

    Oi, I heard that.

  330. Herdsman says:

    j-j seeing as we have all now decided ur idea of a Flamini return is a crap one… lol

    who you suggest we buy as cover for centre half and a striker… and no not Torres sensible answers on a postcard pls….!

  331. Herdsman says:

    London, best you go stand in the corner after what Avenell just told me………. hmmmmmmmmm tut tut tut…!

  332. Herdsman says:

    Least it gives Rafa another game in charge…….!

  333. Gregor says:

    Ummm.. you do know it is only Jan. 2nd right? Patience young grasshopper.

  334. avenell says:

    Sorry Herdsman the spam filter threw your comments into Spam..

    Hi Gregor..

  335. Herdsman says:

    Oh great I’m a spammer now am I…………!

  336. avenell says:

    I think it was the use of the C word.. Because we have a few girls on the site we stopped the use of it.. now it has thrown you into spam it is picking on you now even though I approve all your comments..

    I could be wrong.. as usual.. 😉

  337. Herdsman says:

    Well barndoor woz reserved 4 that comment of the “C” word ages ago but if the site wants 2 pick on me so be it lol…..

  338. Herdsman says:

    funny thing when the ladies use the “C” word as much as we do…. No worries Avenell had a bottle of vodka while I waited 🙂

  339. avenell says:

    Mine only likes it at certain times.. 😉

    I will discuss it with the authorities.. I am sure they won’t mind it in adebayors case..

  340. Herdsman says:

    in barndoors case he is a half one as thats no good 2 anyone….. 😉

  341. avenell says:

    Your name herdsman.. was you a member?

  342. Herdsman says:

    No idea what ur on about 😉

  343. Herdsman says:

    Next you’ll be asking me if I’m into sheep………. lol

  344. Herdsman says:

    Hear no evil see no evil………………

  345. Herdsman says:

    Seems everyone has left to watch the telly…..!

  346. Rasputin says:

    If you do that ave, this’ll end up like every other site 😦

  347. Herdsman says:

    As Rasp says there are many ways to skin a cat and many ways 2 express one’s self…!

  348. JonJon says:

    hi guys sorry had to take a phone call…
    lol herdsman i might as well go sit in the corner with london on the flamini thing..

    ‘no idea what your on about’ perfect answer 😉

  349. JonJon says:

    i see liverpools good form is continuing…

    i cant wait til we play them again…they an easy 6 points this season

  350. Herdsman says:

    Even I wouldnt put Flamini in the same category as barndoor only cashley on his level…!

  351. avenell says:

    jonjon… keep looking in the dashboard Herdsman comments keep going into spam.. then click not spam then they go into pending… then approve them..

  352. Herdsman says:

    J-J Flam was a decent player and the idea of what he brought to the team is what we need although maybe someone who is over 6ft would also be a plus just with the history of how it all went down I wouldnt touch him with barndoors barndoor

  353. peachesgooner says:

    ave – I’ll not be impressed if you allow the ‘c’ word 😦

  354. peachesgooner says:

    In fact looking back there were a couple of other words that haven’t appeared before and are unecessary in my view.

  355. Herdsman says:

    Avenell, am sure to answer ur question the email gives it away and am sure you can see that. Nuff said…!

  356. avenell says:

    Peaches.. no problem.. but I have had to let about 20 comments out of spam, then they go into pending. then I have to approve them..

    It was just that it must be frustrating for Herdsman now, as he didn’t know at the time.. if that makes sense..

  357. peachesgooner says:

    ave – if you remember JJ has to keep releasing him as its his post………….

    So, I’ve been out, any upsets in the cup……..

  358. peachesgooner says:

    Yes Site-master I understand 🙂

  359. JonJon says:

    ive let him out again ave…
    hopefully its sorted..
    yeah peaches sorry about the language today..i know ive slipped up a couple of times but boys will be boys..
    apologies.. 😉

  360. Herdsman says:

    Oh great now I’m locked up………… and by 2 blokes……… This is not good on a sat nite….. lol..!

  361. avenell says:

    Herdsman I was wondering more if you frequent the site 😉 I would like to get in contact with a member who we think comments on there..
    He was a top bloke and we lost contact with him..

  362. Herdsman says:

    Thought it was u in the corner J-J not me…..

  363. peachesgooner says:

    Looks like its been a great day – well done JJ 🙂

    Have you written tomorrows already 😀

  364. Herdsman says:

    Drop me a line Ave…..!

  365. avenell says:

    Peaches .. I don’t know if it’s jonjon who can solve it .. last time jj accidently caused the problem, this time the restrictions have.

    Okay Herdsman will do.. 🙂

  366. Herdsman says:

    J-J you still not said who you’d go and buy if you had your Mr Wenger hat on…..!

  367. AJ says:

    “I want him to do more than look. I want him to find and buy.” Jon Jon, you do a pretty good impression of a post Abrahamovich Chelsea fan.

    The transfer window has barely opened and there you go jumping the gun. Why not wait and watch before commenting?

  368. avenell says:

    Jonjon.. Herdsman has another in spam.. you let him out if you can, it may help. and it’s addressed to you anyway..

  369. avenell says:

    AJ.. welcome aboard .. but don’t insult by calling JJ a Chav.. I can assure you he isn’t, discuss but talk nicely.. 🙂

  370. peachesgooner says:

    ave – when we had the problem in the summer it needed the postwriter to let the person out a few times and then wordpress would recognise that they were allowed on. It won’t be a problem for him tomorrow as it’ll be a new post – its only for this post I think

  371. Herdsman says:

    Tell you what peaches it’s bit scary having 2 blokes locking me up….!

  372. peachesgooner says:

    AJ – this is January and we have players off to the ACN, this is a window when Arsene needs to act as quickly as he can……hes known for weeks that Robin is out for the season and less so that Nikki is out for longer than originally thought……if he hasn’t identified players already then he should have done.

  373. peachesgooner says:

    ave – i know someone who blogs on that site 😉

  374. Herdsman says:

    Also think it’s ok for a blog to discuss sensible targets rather than talking rubbish on players we are never gonna sign in a million yeras, we all have a list of players we’d love 99% are totally out of the question but some are obtainable and some would love to join us, does the manager rate who we like and does he even want players we want..? speculation is one thing writing bullshit blogs entirely another J-J’s may not be everyone’s vup of tea AJ if you don’t liike Flamini but it’s not bullshit or pie in the sky is it..?

  375. Rasputin says:

    AJ,

    We made a profit of £35m on Ade and Kolo, its not unreasonable to ask for new players when we have the prem title within our grasp again. AA has shown that you can buy quality players and yet not destroy the team ethos. JonJon is merely speculating on a day when we have no football. Tomorrow it will all be about the wham game.

  376. peachesgooner says:

    Herdsman – you should be OK tomorrow, I think the spam protects the writer of the current post thats why JJ has to OK you for you to come out…….

    If you can keep that ‘c’ word in check you’ll be fine – very degrading to us girls 🙂

  377. peachesgooner says:

    Hi rasp 😛

  378. Herdsman says:

    I only said it in its “full” version once and it blocked it that was hours ago and related to barndoor since then used n asterixa dn all woz fine, the word should be degrading when related to barndoor….! As said plenty ways to express if you ladies don’t like a word though…!

  379. avenell says:

    Problem is Peaches jonjon’s internet crashes so he goes missing for an hour or so..

    It has caught more good guys than it has bad so far..

    It’s a shame that the spam couldn’t just stick a few **** in and let it on..

    WordPress???

  380. JonJon says:

    lol..herdsman is still a spammer ave..i dont get it..just had to let two of his comments out again,

    AJ..i am in no way shape or form wanting wenger to go spend chelsea money on a player..we got AA for 15 million and TV for 10 for crying out loud so im not saying lets outbid chelsea for aguero at 40mil..we dont need to do that…wenger could build a title winning squad with 40mil

    also i am perfectly aware thats it only the 2nd jan..im not carrying on cos we havent signed anyone already..my point is that i hope we do at some point..

    totally different…

  381. avenell says:

    Let another one out JJ.. 🙂

  382. avenell says:

    Herdsman.. just try to be Herdsman01 or lower case the H in your name for us..

  383. Rasputin says:

    Evening peaches 😉

    I’d like to think that if we win tomorrow we will field teams in the following games that give us a chance of winning the competition – injuries allowing….. Oddly I feel that we have roughly the same percentage chance of winning the FA Cup, Champions league and Premiership at this point…… all 3 would be nice 🙄

  384. Rasputin says:

    At this point, London would normally ask me what I think that percentage is 😛

  385. sheepman says:

    I’m into sheep is that better 😉

  386. JonJon says:

    in response to Herdsman question

    i dont know what striker id buy…if it was upto me in a perfect world id sell walcott and buy torres..but it dont work that way…
    maybe dzecko???
    but either flamini or matuidi in the midfield would do…
    and a defender if senderos leaves…

  387. herdsman2010 says:

    Ok sheep man didn’t work either……….. lol ok back to something else…!

  388. herdsman2010 says:

    J-J everyone says Dzeko but this fella has come from nowhere and now everyone rates him…. I would much rather an old head goal scorer who gonna come in and do a job like Hendrik Larsson did 4 the Mancs….. the same re a centre half…?

  389. JonJon says:

    also this thing with flamini not coming back..

    i know another arsenal player who left and came back and was an absolute legend…

    keeeeeeeeeeown???

  390. Danny says:

    first of all, this ******** of a coach wenger will not buy decent experienced striker.

    he is fooling your clowns for years.

  391. avenell says:

    No that didn’t work Herdsman, herdman 2010, sheepman.. it must dislike your IP address or your emailer..

    JJ untie the man again..

  392. herdsman2010 says:

    Bye Danny…!

  393. Rasputin says:

    Ave … I am getting the feeling that there is an underlying agenda to some of the comments on here 😦

  394. avenell says:

    One more chance Danny without the insults..

    If you want to talk Arsenal then fine… no probs.

  395. avenell says:

    Rasp not with you buddy.. email it if you want..

  396. herdsman2010 says:

    I’d of had Anelka back the other year for sure and think AW made a big mistake not getting him back and at 15mil woz a steal….. Suppose your gonna lock me up or send me into the corner for that comment 🙂

  397. JonJon says:

    id say van horseface but i hate the prat…still if he helped us to win the league then all will be forgiven

  398. avenell says:

    Another one to let out JJ..

  399. herdsman2010 says:

    J-J I always think of him but just think with him it’s 2 much water under the bridge and I really do think he hates us….! Is he even on the bench for Real or injured…?

  400. JonJon says:

    argghhhhhh…lol

    ive got an idea..which was the original comment that got spammed??? i’ll spam it and then unspam it and see if that works…

    ????

  401. JonJon says:

    i think hes on the bench..

    real have said that he can talk to anyone and they will pay half his wages if need be until his contract runs out with them…

  402. herdsman2010 says:

    I called barndoor a “C” when u said u dream about him and sweat so how long ago woz that……. think thats the original that got spammed for full version of the C word…! Sorry…!

  403. avenell says:

    JJ I c***ed the word then approved it..

  404. JonJon says:

    oh i see…

    i dont know then ave might be wordpress…??

    is rasp ok?

  405. peachesgooner says:

    ave – you can be picky who you let on!!!!!!!!!!

  406. avenell says:

    peaches: blame jonjon.. he told me to take the modreration off..

    sorry JJ.. 😉

  407. herdsman2010 says:

    Sorry peaches all my fault from now on will just call barndoor “C” for classless how’s that…?

  408. JonJon says:

    hahaha…cheers MATE… 😉

    it was just a short term thing peaches.. sorry.

  409. London says:

    Herdsman

    There is a way around it “Adebayor is a banned word” 😉

    See y’all tomorrow

  410. herdsman2010 says:

    Coming from u London thats a top suggestion…. Must of killed you to come up with that one lol….. Take it easy….!

  411. JonJon says:

    seeya london..

    and thanks mate for your 11.22.. 😉

  412. Herdsman says:

    Sits n waits in “spam”………..

  413. Rasputin says:

    I’m OK JonJon – it’s the rest! 😛

    I am shocked at the vitriol that was unearthed at the mention of Flamini. I think it came up top of the list on NN at a peak time for bloggers.

    Personally, I thought Hleb’s behaviour was far worse. He was dishonourable in the way he went about leaving and once he left, he mounted a campaign to destabilise Cesc and lure him to Barca. Later, when he’d spent months on the bench he started dropping huge hints he’d like to return … now he really is a weaner

  414. avenell says:

    Yeah London you Ade lover.. 😉

  415. JonJon says:

    totally agree rasp…

    flamini was nothing compared to what hlb did…

    although id take them both back..lol

  416. Herdsman says:

    U say that Rasp but how snidey that Flamini is waving at the fans at Ag and then 3 hours lata having dinner in Milan finalising a new deal…! Your correct in there have been much worse but you can’t blame ppl who spend money of watching players and then feeling cheating when said players stick their fingers up at the very ppl who support them week in week out.

  417. avenell says:

    Sorry again spam man.. 😦

  418. Rasputin says:

    Herdsman,

    There are players who play for the shirt (Cesc, DB)
    There are players who are mercenaries but who give their all for the club who curently pay their wages (Gallas, AA)…
    … and ther are players who are mercenaries and who are scumbags who have no respect for the club (Ade, Hleb) …. I’d put Flamini into the second category which covers the majority of footballers in the premier divisions across Europe

  419. JonJon says:

    im out of here guys..gonna get an early night and get my body clock back on time..work on monday.. 😦

    seeya tommorrow

  420. Rasputin says:

    Night JonJon … sleep well….zzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz

  421. peachesgooner says:

    We can’t expect all our players to love the club as we love it and I agree many who come to us are mercenaries but then there are those who grow up with us and declare there undying love for us Cesc, Thierry, Dennis, Paddy the list is pretty endless infact………

  422. peachesgooner says:

    😳 there = their 😳

  423. Herdsman says:

    Cheers j-j….! I agree with you Rasp but in the context of what ppl have to pay these days I think the perception is that they are entitled to be extremely peeved when a player is deemed to crap on them and the club hence ppl get quite upset when said player is mentioned. As you say its the vast majority who would act like Flam did and most do and then again bring them players into a conversation and again you well get acid comments from lots of ppl. You can’t really blame them when these blokes earn more in a week than most earn in a year.

  424. Herdsman says:

    Thing is peaches how many times did PV flirt with the enemy…….. If you also believe certain comments he was also the one who told cashley to tell the club to poke 50k a week…? Was PV really so loyal or did he just flirt everytime he wanted a new pay rise..?

  425. andy says:

    I dont think it’ll ever happen but you fans who doubt Flamini should remember that he served his time on the bench and playing out of position and always gave 100% for several seasons. Yes he left on sour terms but i blame the club as much as the player for that. Loyalty works both ways and we didnt offer anything until we realised Gilberto’s legs had gone. If he had stayed i think it would have been him and not Cesc made club captain, the boy was class. OK so hes a bit arrogant and full of himself but he is French afterall !

  426. peachesgooner says:

    ave – maybe you should put a note on welcoming new bloggers who come on during the night telling them that if they leave a comment they’ll go into moderation for tonight but after tomorrow they’ll be free to blog……

  427. avenell says:

    I did say to jonjon I would only take it off if someone was mothering the site..

    But I will do a comment.
    Sorry if anything has upset you.. it’s difficult keeping everyone happy I am sure you understand..
    15,000 hits today has left me a bit shell shocked and tired..

    I know how other blogs feel now.. 😉

  428. peachesgooner says:

    Its probably enough just to leave a message for now cos you don’t know if anyone will even try to get on.

    Take my message off.

    Well done – you must be shattered

  429. charlie says:

    yes i agree we need a striker desprately but i do not think buying back Flamini is a great idea. Maybe if we had the old song that was at Charlton but not now he has become a revalation for us these season and i know he will be away for while but i do think diaby can fill the boots for while and this will give Ramsey a greater chance to shine.

  430. avenell says:

    Alright charlie.. come back tomorrow for a chat too..

    If anyone posts new they may be held in moderation.. sorry about that..

    until tomorrow g’night..

  431. lukychmz says:

    Arsenal will never bring Flamini back after he turned his back on them

  432. […] Arsenal Bag a Striker and the Return of Flamini.. After having him on loan in December 2008 and with the scouts monitoring him on a regular basis, Brazilian […] […]

  433. avenell says:

    Hi lukychmz.. thanks for commenting.. I’m off to bed now though.. have fun..

    RICO!!! if you are reading (not the team) I have emailed you..

  434. Anonymous says:

    If AW is to continue buying young talent from all over the place,I wish he’d make an offer for Romelu Lukaku
    of Anderlecht.(This guy could be another Drogba!)

  435. nilesh says:

    flamini never. he left arsenal when arsenal needed him and now when he is of no use at milan to get him back. no way.

  436. Damian says:

    I can,t believe this Flamini done everything right he never wanted to leave he just wanted Arsenal to match what he was offered, at the time we couldn,t afford it as 4 him making the wrong move he went from 20000 to 600000 & if u want to weigh it against a normal job he gets the extra 40000 and doesn,t even have to play so 40000 more 4 less work

  437. Damian says:

    Wake up it is very easy to love the club when your getting the same amount of money as u would else where try asking Fab to take a 30% pay cut see how long he stays

  438. rico says:

    Morning Damian, welcome to Avenell Road, your comment was in moderation and I was still asleep 😉

    You are free to blog now

  439. rico says:

    New post

  440. reshven says:

    i dont understand hw stupid r u guys!!! flamini left arsenal saying arsenal x did not offer better contract earlier and nw u guys want him back?? tat is stupid!!! rather want him 2 buy a stiker!!! such as cole and bodo striker!!! Song is better than flamini!!! EVEN DENILSON IS… v need a attacker!! flamini is defensive!! please wake up guys…

  441. wambam says:

    GIGNAC is godd,he works hard like Tevez and is strong on ball

  442. wambam says:

    Sorry,i meant to say good not godd!

  443. avenell says:

    Hi wambam.. we are all on the next post.. if you click the home page at the top you will find us.. pop in for a chat.. cheers..

  444. acherco says:

    flamini promised AW he will sign. thats the reason why he let diara who i think is a better go

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