City v Arsenal: A Pint By Pint Account

Ist Pint

Arsenal took to the field, on what started out as a very beautiful afternoon. Within five minutes they were giving the impresssion of being the better team — in complete control. And why not, everyone of the City mercenaries had previously been at a club that had been tonked by Arsenal at one time or another, add to that, a couple of Arsenal rejects and there should never have been any doubt that Arsenal would appear the more confident and boss the game, and so it was. That is until City scored and then as violently as a see-saw shifts its weight so did confidence slide from one team to another.

2nd Pint

I was shocked by the reaction of many people around me, so called Arsenal supporters openly calling for Wenger’s head: the level of ignorance was amazing. My concerns were focused on the fact that we couldn’t even muster a single shot on goal or if Vermaelen’s rasper was in the first half then it was the exception that proved the rule. The most reasoned concerns I heard around me were aimed at Van Persie: nothing was sticking; he couldn’t hold the ball long enough for the rest of the team to join him and to make things worse he has developed an embarrassing habit of falling to the floor as if having been shot by a sniper every time he miscontrols the ball and consequently loses it. I am a big RVP fan but I have my doubts as to whether he is a number nine.

3rd Pint

Half time, any one who is familiar with the 12 Pins in Finsbury Park, will know that this is a hard core Arsenal pub and it is not a good idea for two young men from N17 to walk by wearing spud shirts when we are losing. I know the adult in me says that this is wrong but the boyish football fan was very pleased when some Arsenal fans proceeded to pour pints of lager over them while taking out all their frustrations verbally using the kind of colourful language that I am sure you can imagine.

4th Pint

Second half, we were back to playing with the self belief that we had started the game, so much so that we had them pinned back. Opportunities were arriving most memorably to Vermaelen but still the equaliser eluded us.
Enter Rosicky, the forth pint was coming to its end and that was my cue to start getting animated and explode I did when the Czech Republic’s finest took to the field; the additional class that he instantly injected into the game was impressive and as if to stick two fingers up at all those who called for him to be sold while injured; he played a deftly weighted pass to the Boy Wonder enabling him to score his first goal of the season.

5th Pint

This started off as a happy pint, although, contrary to what it might seem I am not a big drinker and am easily affected by alcohol. I am not going to try and defend Denilson but it was noticeable that when he and Song went off we were over run, surely it would have been better to have swapped Doby for Rosicky? Belamy’s goal was met with hatred; Adebayor’s goal was met with stunned disbelief. The upside, if there is one, is that Rosicky got an assist for the first goal and scored the second. He should shortly become a regular starter, along with AK 47 and Nasri there is still a lot to look forward to. I marched out of the pub and cycled home, going through Regents park someone jumped the red light, nearly killing me; he stopped just short, opening his window, I let him have it, the Doby own goal the Adebayor insult, the lot — it all came out; the girl in the Exorcist would have blushed, it wasn’t very grown up behaviour but it did seem to help.


98 Responses to City v Arsenal: A Pint By Pint Account

  1. London says:

    Morning Roadsters

    Jonjon, I know you were at the game yesterday so if you have written something just put a new post up, I won’t mind.

  2. Rasputin says:

    Morning London, Roadsters,

    A very good post London, forgive me for not reacting to your sentiments in the following comments, just continuing my own personal rant……

    1. If we’d swapped goalkeepers, we’d have won yesterday. An everage prem keeper would have saved 2 of the 4 goals. Almunias defence is usually that he is a good shot stopper – yesterday he wasn’t even that. He made it so easy for SWP to score by going down too early. Lehman would have got something in the way of the ball.

    2. The players put out of position was the main reason the side was so unbalanced and ineffective in the first haf – entirely Wenger’s fault 2/10. Diaby and Bendtner out wide and RVP up fron on his own are 3 mistakes.

    3. Cesc didn’t have a good game. Maybe he was tired after international duty or maybe the early battering from Ade had an effect on him.

    4. Diaby and Denilson are not good enough.

    5. Clichy lost the ball twice leading directly to goals. He plays much better with Nasri in front of him – you have to feel for him with that plank Diaby as his left wing partner.

    6. Ade has confirmed that he really is one of the most reprehensible footballers ever to wear an Arsenal shirt. A ban of no less than 3 games would be appropriate after yesterday’s performance.

  3. avenell says:

    Morning Roadsters. hi Rasputin/London.

    Great post London. of course we never defended as well when Denilson went off. as Thierry once said “sometimes in football you need to score goals” and that means we need to create chances.
    Our problem is Denilson, Diaby and Song don’t create anything so Gallas and TV take on the responsibility and try to attack themselves, leaving the defence exposed.
    If the midfield did there job the defence could concentrate better on there’s.

  4. peachesgooner says:

    Morning all

    Great post London – I chuckled at the thought of you setting off on your bike with 5 pints inside you 🙂

    Very good point ave – something as basic as the mid-fielders needing to create goals seems to have been forgotten by le boss. We can expect more gungho performances from our defenders unless he puts the creativity back.

    I know Nasri and Arshavin will be back but when he is he gonna stop playing Diaby %&^*(&(*(&^&O….

    Still very cross…… 😦

  5. JonJon says:

    morning guys…

    nice post london…im glad you did one cos ive got the worst hangover in the world…

    i went to the game with three mates and we were all pissed off with that performance…but suprisingly none of us blamed wenger for it…

    the only gripe i have with wenger was playing bendtner out of position…people forget that wayne bridge is a top class LB and bendtner wasnt the man to give him problems…also..for long periods of the games nikki was in no mans land…he was practically hugging the touchline was offering the attack nothing..the 433 looked like a 451 and i hate that…

    good point about rvp too…he reminded me of heskey yesterday…he was either losing the ball or on the floor for the entire game…

    our workrate vanished….clichy and sagna were tore new arseholes by bellamy and swp and diaby and denilson were crap..agian…

    but the difference for me was the GK…the game-although a 6 goaler-was dire in itself..littered with mistakes and boring play and citeh had only 4 shots on goal…and scored 4..we had about 10 and we just could get past given…almunias crap…that own goal was an embarrasment…

    citeh are crap…

    overall im annoyed because we should have beaten both the manchesters and becuase of certain players-players fans have wanted replacing for some time-weve lost both games badly…and it hurts..

    i dont want to see diaby denilson or almunia play for arsenal again this season…and nikki has to play centrally…

  6. JonJon says:

    oh and cesc had a shit game becuase he was playing with shit players..nikki was nowhere to be seen, rvp kept losing the ball, diaby and denilson were offering no movement and cesc was trying to force the issue time and time again because of it..

  7. JonJon says:

    what pisses me off too is that last year wenger said the goal difference is were we lost the league…he bought verminator which was a good start and with song in front of gallas and vermy the outfield looked solid…but ive said before that its rendered pointless when your keepers shite…. we are only four games into the season and weve conceeded 8 goals…we have yet to keep a clean sheet…yesterday citeh had 4 shots..5 at the most on target..and look at the scoreline!!!!

    almunias a waste of space…that owngoal was diabolical…it changed the game…another bloody set piece…our defenders cant stop them all so we need our keeper to do his job…bellamys shot was straight at him and again he was glued to his line for ades header…

    given did his with ease…most top keepers do…almunia isnt a top keeper…never has been and never will be…

  8. avenell says:

    Morning JJ..
    that’s crap about goal difference..

    One extra point is worth more than a thousand better goal difference.

  9. avenell says:

    Vermulin was at least as much to blame for the first goal.. but he is the golden boy.. if that had have been Sendersauros we would have mullered him.
    and he never covered Song for Ade’s goal.

  10. JonJon says:

    hey ave…

    you never win a game if you conceed 4 goals…..

    that result was a real kick in the nuts…citeh have pictures of adebayor all over the stadium…they love him and to lose like that and for him to score aswell is soul destroying…

  11. Rasputin says:

    It’s too late to buy a proper keeper. Fabianski is injured and perhaps marginally better than Almunia …. paradoxically, the 40m profit from the sale of players that wqsn’t reinvested in the squad is about what we will lose if we fail to qualify for next year’s CL…. well done Arsenal, you sure know how to run a business 👿

  12. avenell says:

    If the referee had of done his job and booked Ade for Stamping on Fabregas, stamping on RvP and inciting the crowd.. he would not have been on the pitch.. that is one goal and one clearance at least off the line he could not have done..

    So we would have been two goals to the good there.. And that was a blatent handball by Barry so we would have won easily if the referee had of got his decisions right..
    Then Almunia “mistake” would not have been highlighted.

  13. JonJon says:

    they were all shit..but vermalaen and gallas were doing ok against ade…

    clichy fucked up twice and left us outnumbered at the back for two goals…

    that 1st goal was soft ave…the defenders wont win everyheader that comes their you sort of expect your keeper to be ready when it comes his direction…but almunia never seems to be ready..

  14. avenell says:

    Given should have stopped RvP’s shot that was from his weak foot and was moving at 2.5 MPH.. but he didn’t.

    it was no different to the goal that Almunia let in against Celtic only slower.

  15. JonJon says:

    yeah the ref was shit…but you know what??

    its all ifs and buts…its diverting the blame to refs and injuries like we have done the last four seasons…

    we should have won the game..but both teams were crap and we couldnt score cos our best striker was on the bench, our target man was playing wing and rvp isnt a n0.9…

    given kept his team in the game with some great saves…what did almunia do?? that was the difference

  16. avenell says:

    When was the last time you saw Man U get the decisions against them that we do..

    We have to play the officials in all the big games.. It’s not passing the buck it’s true.. then we get an offside goal against Hull and then that’s karma.

  17. rico says:

    Afternoon everyone

    ave, i agree with you 12.27, i commented in the last post the same – battenburg was gutless!!

    The biggest problem, which often seems to be the case with us, we seldom have just one player who is having an off day, its usually all of them on the same day!

    And for me, that is when we lack a true leader, someone to get the team going again. The tackle on Cesc was very early and he didnt pick himself up after. Had that have been a Paddy or Roy Keane kind of captain, things may have been so very different.

    I love Cesc, but he is not a Captain imho

  18. JonJon says:

    the ref didnt beat us yesterday…

    the ref didnt beat us either for the manure game…

    we beat ourselves cos certain players cant cut it in the big games…

    we had 19 shots and 10 were on target…

    citeh had 10 shots and 5 were on target…

    yet look at the scoreline…

    ade or no ade,penalty or no pen…we lost that game ourselves…

  19. rico says:

    JJ – I agree we were the authors of our own destiny, but decisions always go against us, and those yesterday were blatent and clear to see, the Robin incident, Battenburg would have struggled to be any closer!!

    I wish Arsene would start looking at Coquelin and Merida rather than Denilson and Diaby

  20. JonJon says:

    thats because we work as a unit now rico…if one player has an off day it throws the whole team out of sync…

    thats why we need AK47…cos hes the type of player who will look like hes not involved and then will smash a goal from nothing or hit a hatrick…

    we have no other player like it…apart from rosicky

    and when they are both out we lose that cutting edge..

  21. avenell says:

    So we would have lost if Ade was sent off?

    In these games between the big clubs, the whole game can hinge on one or two big decisions.

    We may not have lost this game against Man U because of a refs decision.. But what about when Baby face went down like a sack of shit to get Campball sent off? or when horse face fell over and got Vieira sent off? Or when Rooney “dived” and ended our unbeaten run.
    That’s just a few instances where the ref cocked up and cost us..

  22. JonJon says:

    rico…even before the ade incident and the penalty shout we should have been 2 0r 3 nil up…

    we couldnt find the net yet citeh ave one chance from one soft header and almunia was left flapping….

    even after we equalised we had them by the balls for about 15mins and we could of had another 3 or 4…yet we couldnt break given and then citeh go up the other end and score another soft goal…

    blaming the ref is just sour grapes in my opinion…we were given a lesson in GK and finishing yesterday…

  23. avenell says:

    Given is a crap keeper he shouldn’t be relying on Ade to clear it off the line 3 times..

  24. JonJon says:

    yeah we would still have lost..cos almunia cant keep goal..

  25. rico says:

    Hi ave 😉

    JJ, I appreciate we work as a unit, but these are top class sportsmen, even at the very low level that I played sport, when your team mate was having a rough day you got behind them, rallyed around and it wouldn’t long before they picked themselves up, either that of they were subbed!

    A true leader on the pitch could have got into that side yesterday, Cesc isn’t able to do that, Henry was as bad. We haven’t had a proper captain since TA and PV

  26. avenell says:

    Vera is crap coz he got out jumped by a 5’11” centre half..

  27. Rasputin says:

    ? ave ?

    What site am I on?

  28. JonJon says:

    almunias just crap..

  29. avenell says:

    Rasp .. Your on a site that if anyone makes a mistake they are crap.. 🙂

  30. Rasputin says:

    Hi rico,

    I thought TV did his best to drive the team when we went behind the second time. He is probably the best candidate for captain. If citeh can make a kolo captain when he’s just joined the club, why can’t we do the same with TV. I said earlier that Cesc seemed to lose his game after Ade came in with a crunching tackle. Ade bullied our board/manager last season and he bullied our entire team yesterday.

  31. JonJon says:

    we have a good 1st eleven but a couple of injuries and we are screwed…the formation works but we are playing the wrong strikers and midfielders and as long as almunias in goal we will lose every big game we play in cos his crapness always leaves us either chasing games or not holding on to leads…

  32. JonJon says:


    how many clean sheets has almunia kept this season…who many goals have we conceeded and how many were the refs…sorry..almunias fault??

  33. Rasputin says:

    Hi ave,

    I don’t know who you are referring to, but I said before the season started that I didn’t think Almunia was good enough. I also said I wished we could sell Diaby in the summer because AW has some weird blind faith in him despite repeated poor performances. I have also said many times that RVP cannot hold up play and should never be a lone striker – he’s not strong enough….. so I shall assume that your comment wasn’t directed at me 😉

  34. avenell says:

    We have a good first 11.. problem is it isn’t the same as Arsene’s.

  35. avenell says:

    Nothing was directed at you Rasp.. chill man..

    I agree with your comment then about RvP and Diaby.. throw Denilson in too as a squad player.. (if I may direct that at you 😉 )

  36. avenell says:

    Anyway guys and girls.. I’m going in the garden to do a bit.. be on later.. 🙂

  37. London says:

    This is going to be the first ever negative comment I have written about Fabregas: Rico, with a heavy heart, I agree.

    Back peddling fast I also think there is a lot to be said for the point Jonjon made about Cesc; that being that skill wise we may be asking too much of him when so many around him are of such substandard quality. Rosicky, Arshavin and Nasri will help though.

  38. rico says:

    Hi Rasp

    Heads and nails come to mind 😉 TV is a proved Captain at Ajax – (that’s why he’s known to clean up at the back ) 😉 He is the only one in our squad who is captain material, why not give it to him and free up Cesc, after all, look what effect it had on Gallas.

    London, you don’t have to back pedal, you are not being negative, you are being honest..

  39. PDT says:

    Twenty four hours have passed but the red mist still lingers. The good news is that I managed to harness my rage and record a personal best in my baby triathlon today.

    Standard Liege cannot come fast enough.

  40. Rasputin says:

    Hi rico,
    I guess it wouldn’t be a good idea to make it look like we are punishing cesc by taking the captaincy away from him…. its just that TV (and Gallas yesterday) looked the part……

    We have a run of games ahead against teams we should beat, so the positive view must be that we may now embark on an unbeaten run of at least 6 games … as long as we don’t suffer the curse of the ‘draw from a late equaliser’ as in recent seasons

  41. PDT says:

    Arsene must play his best players every time. He cannot leave Rosicky and Eduardo on the bench. TR7 is ready to play 60 minutes per game – start him!

  42. PDT says:

    I am determined I will stay positive through till December at least, so will take myself off for now. Have fun!

  43. avenell says:

    London .. Re your 1.36.. who do you think is of “such sub standard quality”?

    Diaby? Bendtner? RvP? Song?… or anyone else I have forgot to mention?

  44. rico says:

    Fair point Rasp, and we know AW won’t do that to Cesc in fear of him departing in a huffty tuffty 😉
    Good to see you back by the way 😛

    ave – sub standard?? Are you talking about in general or just after yesterday ?

    Eboue, Diaby, Denilson, Almunia come to the front of my mind in general.. Add to that Senderos, Silvestre… I won’t add Theo just yet, I will give him 4-5 games 😉

  45. avenell says:

    Rico .. London said we have sub standard players and I was interested in which players he meant..

  46. rico says:

    Good news though that Gallas + contract extenison are being reported..

  47. rico says:

    😳 sorry ave, i was poking my snozzer 😦

  48. avenell says:

    Haha …i’m heading back out again for a bit..

  49. JonJon says:

    yeah PDT..thats exactley what i said yesterday…if rosickys fit enough to play midweek and hes fit enough to be on the bench ,hes fit enough to play…

    if hes not match fit then so what…start with him and give him and hour…

    an hour of rosicky, match fit or not is better than 90mins of diaby and denilson put together…

    good news about gallas guys…

  50. JonJon says:

    after reflecting back on the last two games ive come to the conclusion we will finish outside the top four this year and wenger will be sacked…

    the likes of spuds and citeh have grown stronger and i still dont think we are a match for liverpool chelsea and manure…

    the fans will kick off if we finish outside the top 4 because of the 40mil that went ‘missing’…the board will never accept responsibility and wenger will be ousted….

    wenger really needs to give up on diaby and denilson..they are going to cost him his job..

  51. JonJon says:

    oh and add almunia to that list..

    in all honesty..almunias confidence looks shot to bits and clichy hasnt had the best start either…maybe time for gibbs??? i reckon so anyway

  52. London says:


    The players who I was refering to as being sub standard yesterday, that’s to say those who were not able to add what it takes to play Wengerball, were Van Persie, Bendtner and Doby; I am pronouncing this “Dobbie” for all those who may not have realised.

    Cesc was poor yesterday but when playing a pass to any of those three neither one seemed to be able to control it before playing it back to him when he had moved into a better position, as used to happen with the combination of Fabregas, Hleb and Rosicky. But Fabregas, Rosicky, Arshavin and Nasri are more than capable of recreating that level of play. We just have to wait.

    Song is not included in my list of substandard players; he could have and should have done better in relation to the second goal but apart from that I thought he played his role extremely well.

    In short the combination of Gallas, Vermaelen with Song in front is working well but the combination of Doby, RVP, Bendner with Fabregas just behind them is not.

    Cue Walcott: I share your reservations about him but this system may just be the making of him, so much so that I have a sneaky suspicion that this could be his season

  53. JonJon says:

    i agree with london..apart from the walcott bit..but id rather have walcott on the wings than diabolical and nikki…

    whats wenger thinking??? two of the tallest players in the team…both 6 foot 4 and both deployed as wingers…

    he never ceases to amaze me..

  54. London says:

    Hi Jonjon

    Think Walcott instead of Eboue against the mancs and you will see where I am coming from.

  55. JonJon says: you mean yesterday…

    i actually agree with that…i think we lacked pace yesterday..sometime citeh had in bundles…

    walcott could just have made the difference…

    i just cant wait for round two at the emirates..i want those blue bastards in the cups too….

  56. avenell says:

    London.. I have been bleating on about the wengerball players for 18 months now since Hleb and Flamini went.. one more player to agree on and we are singing from the same hymn sheet..

  57. rico says:

    Ha ha ave – I guess the one more player means Theo 😉

    I am sticking with London, this will be his year – why ?? Because it has to be for him or otherwise he will be sold and become just another Jeffers, difference is Theo WANTS to become better, he has had a troubled time with injuries, and latterly the England fiasco has not helped his progress.

    But lets not forget, when Nasri is fit and AA is back we will have a midfield of….


    Is that so bad – on paper 😉

    Ave – did Hleb player Wengerball as you call it ???

    I dont think so .. But maybe others do

  58. avenell says:

    I thought.. Hleb, Rosicky and Cesc played the best “wengerball” ever tbh.. no not Theo.. we already nearly agree on that one.

    You may as well forget about Ramsey , Coq and Jack for a year or two Arsene won’t play them.. 😦

  59. rico says:

    Not for me ave, i thought the best was Petit, Paddy, Freddie and Bobby 😉

    I always thought Hleb on his day was very good, but more often than not he had a lot of the ball with little end product, and he had a bit of a tendancy to pass to the opposition, something we have all to often been good at…

    Gilberto was a terror for that

  60. JonJon says:

    jack would be perfect for wengerball…in CM or wide mid…

    but like ave says wenger wont play him so theres no point dreaming about it…

  61. rico says:

    Who is that ‘one more player’ ??

  62. JonJon says:

    id prefer coquelin to denilson and jacky to diaby but wenger wont budge on his veiws on his lovechildren..

  63. rico says:

    I know he wont play him JJ, but thats how strong I feel about how poor Diaby, Denilson and Eboue – they are pants – they offer little in both defence and attack so why bother ??

    Coquelin would be like letting a Jack Russell out in a field of rabbits….

    Wilshere – well he would be just like a kid in a sweet shop, grabbing every moment like is was his favourite bonbon

    Merida – he oozes class and one day, just one day I will be here typing the words similar to..

    ‘I thought I would really miss Cesc but….’
    And by then, Cesc will be an old crock and we will have a pure genius in our midfiled, and more than likely, alongside Coquelin 😉

  64. JonJon says:

    if we have a fully fit team we dont need one more

    cesc song rosicky

    nasri dudu aK47

    thats all the wenger ball you want with defencive solidarity..

    the problem is the GK and when one or two of those lot get injured..

  65. avenell says:

    When Petit and Vieira were together we were a counter attacking team.. Dependent on the pace of anelka, then Overmars.. Bergkamp and Pires were good “wengerball” players though.

  66. rico says:

    For once JJ, I agree about Almunia!

    When Jens was our No1, I wanted Almunia as Jens temperment was dire, now I want Fabianski between the posts as Alumina is just shocking!

    In an ideal world, the club should get a better keeper in Jan, but we all know that they wont, and the one we all would like to see play for us, played against us yesterday.. As I said on the last post, just because almunia wants to play for England, doesn’t mean he needs to play like David James 😉

  67. rico says:

    Ok – question for you all….

    Is Cesc Fabregas becoming another Thierry Henry ??????

  68. JonJon says:

    i never like jens either…

    he was one of the weak links in the invincibles…

    if wenger thinks that fabianski isnt ready then we could see a new keeper in jan…

    i think that wenger is waiting until the jan window to strengthen the team to push on…

    if almunia doesnt find some form he could be packing his bags cos i cant see how he can keep his place with all the errors hes making..

    jens made two in consecutive games..and was dumped…almunias made 5 or 6 in consecutive games so god knows why wenger sticks with him…well i do know why..its cos fabianskis injured..weve got nobody else..

  69. JonJon says:

    no i dont think so rico..

    i think cesc is becoming disilutioned with the situation…

    hes not the type of player to do it himself and he hasnt got the right players around him to pull the strings…

    he could be off to barca sooner than we think

  70. rico says:

    JJ, spot on, I cant forgive him for giving away the penalty against the Spuds in the dying seconds for them to draw – no more that I can forgive Wright for the fluff to hand them an equaliser (or was that Pyoet for the chavs) either way, you see where I am coming from 😉

    I think he was waiting until after the Celtic game, AND to see what happens in the group stages…. Thankfully our group is reasonably good to us, so you and me agree them Jan will see the new boys in 😉 😉 😉

  71. JonJon says:

    yeah rico..

    january could see the signings…just depends on who…

    i think we need a Goalie and a CM now..

  72. rico says:

    And another defender JJ, oh, and an out and out goal scorer 😉 😉

    The lovely little delivery chap has just bought us a chinese takeaway, so I must love you all and leave you for a short while – yummy yummy 😛

    Hope Mrs JJ is doing well ?

  73. JonJon says:

    enjoy rico…

    yeah shes fine thankyou..

  74. peachesgooner says:

    Morning all

    Do I feel any better that the FA are going to throw the book at Ade? Maybe a little, in addition to banning him for a few games – which won’t help us in any way – I think his behaviour should attract a huge fine too…….hit him where it hurts……..half a million pounds???? What d’you think?

  75. London says:

    Morning all

    Is the proposed fine and ban because he ran the length of the field to celebrate; in which case, I think we should just get over it; I mean, what did we expect. Or, is is for stamping on Van Persie’s face, in which I would be in favour of making the fine a round million.

  76. rico says:

    Morning everyone

    Off to have a peep around at the gossip which no doubt will be all about Lardy, what we all need is a massive win on Wednesday to forget Saturday’s result..

  77. rico says:

    What a plonker Lardy is, he say’s he doesn’t know what he has done wrong and that any ban would be unjust – well I hope he gets that six match ban that has been suggested should he be found guilty, and I agree with peaches, give the idiot a huge fine aswell seeing as that is all he truly cares about!

  78. rico says:

    Suggestion is that Lardy slapped Song off the ball aswell – anyone else see that? I didn’t – but apparently the FA are also looking at that…

    Ping – another three match….

    3 for the Cesc tackle
    3 for the Robin stamp
    3 for the slap on Song

  79. rico says:

    I am not sure what will happen about ‘that celebration’ – the ref issued him a yellow on the day. My only hope is that the Police intervene and charge him with incitement to cause riot, but I doubt very much if they will and some of our fans may be also in deep doo doo if they take such action.

    But the three incidents as in my last comment, the ref did not issue any cards (i am still stunned as to why not) so the FA could fill their boots and hit Lardy with the maximum penalty – if they do, the premiership may not see that git until Christmas 🙂

  80. rico says:

    Catch you all later

  81. Irishgunner says:

    Morning all,

    Screw fines and match bans – the Togo Twat needs to meet Alex Witsel down a dark alley……

  82. kelsey says:

    Morning all again,
    appears to be some gremlins in the system. So I will repost my earlier comment.

    Excellent summary of the events at City.Naturally the Arsenal fans will take one stance as will the City fans take the other.The Summer before last after an excellent season,Adebayor,who Wenger picked up by from obscurity,nearly trebled his wages, and expressed his loyalty to Arsenal live on TV and within minutes declared himself available to any bigger club in Europe.He then had a very moderate season and had clashes with Bedntner and Gallas.Therefore there is history,and many Arsenal fans will never forgive him,for his lacklustre performances,especially since January of this year.What he did on Saturday was premeditated,and he had every intention of hurting both Fabregas and RVP.Any crowd would have reacted after he ran 80 yards down the pitch to celebrate in front of the away fans,if it was their former player,though one cannot condone their actions,yet unfortunately it was inevitable.He is a mercenary,and I am sure he will move on again,sooner rather than later,most probably to Europe.Personally,his all round performance in attack and defence,apart from the points already raised,was awesome,something we at Arsenal haven’t seen from him for over 18 months.maybe that added to the anger and frustration of the travelling away fans.Like so many over payed prima Donna’s, his brains are sometimes only in his boots.That he might miss the Manchester derby next week,is entirely down to him,and no one else.

  83. Irishgunner says:

    ” I actually feel sorry for Emmanuel Adebayor….
    …..because he was obviously dropped on his head as a baby.” – Wrighty 7

    I’m offended – I was dropped on my head as a baby and I like to think I’m no as mentally challenged as the twat 😦

  84. Big Raddy says:

    Morning All,

    Just popping in.

    It seems to me that we created our own downfall. To use Diaby & NB as flanking players is a desperate move and clearly didn’t work. I believe AW was protecting Eduardo at MC and he shouldn’t have done.

    Prior to RvP’s goal, the only attempts we had were from defenders !

    I cannot blame AW for going for the win and taking off Song, but surely the better option was Diaby – who in my opinion had a very poor game.

    Cesc showed little or no leadership. A great player lifts the players around him, and I do not accept the argument that he is playing with dross who have a negative effect upon his performance. We need our Captain to be at the front of the fight. That said, I would not be surprised if the ankle stamp hindered him.

    Clichy ? what to say ….. a fine player who is making elementary mistakes. It is not only the responsibility of the covering MF to defend when the FB attacks. It is also the responsibility of the FB to check where the MF is (though Song did get across to try (?) and tackle). Clichy needs to think more.

    And why on earth can our FB’s not learn to cross a ball? I cannot recall a single cross reaching an AFC head.

    Denilson is fairly anonymous – another example of a Brazilian Invisible Wall ! But he was missed when he was subbed. IMO he won’t be a great – but he is a decent stop gap.

    Almunia. His shots to ooals ratio must be the worst in the Prem. He has to go, and AW made a huge error not buying when Mad Jens started to decline. I like him as a man, but I have never trusted him as the Keeper for us. We have a tradition of great GK’s at THOF. At no time in the past 50 years would Almunia have been first choice GK.

    Positives? I am sure there are some 😉

  85. Irishgunner says:

    Morning Kelsey and BR.

    Big Raddy – I agree with you that Diaby should have come off and not Song.

    Positives = Rosicky

  86. Big Raddy says:


    I am more concerned abut Fab. He is the focal point of the team. Particularly without Rosicky or AA on the pitch. Cesc sets our tempo, and is The Man. If as on Saturday he is anonymous, we are in deep trouble as there is no-one else who sparks the team.

    Take out the Distributor Cap and the engine won’t run…..

    (like those Avenell ?)

  87. Big Raddy says:

    Off to school ……..

    Ciao Irish/Kelsey

  88. Irishgunner says:

    Cesc had a stinker alright but when you go from playing with Xavi and Iniesta to Denilson and Diaby, its a bit of a reality check I suppose.

  89. avenell says:

    Morning Roadsters..

    Raddy.. dizzy caps are so 1960’s.. 😉
    I do believe that Fabregas needs better players around him as he lubricates the system, he is not a Gerrard thrusting type of player and probably like you say not a leader of men. But you can have unofficial captains like we used too, Keown and Vieira for instance when Adams was captain could still shout and motivate.

    Are you enjoying all this beatles stuff?.

  90. kelsey says:

    Clichy definitely isn’t at the top of his form,but once denilson and Song both went off, diaby did nothing to help,by not tracking back.The last two goals and to an extent their crucial second,all came from our left side defence.The second was definitely Clichy’s fault,as SWP had his back to him and was going nowhere.

    Off to the vet,we have to make a big decision today to see if Rocky should be put down or not,as his quality of life is diminishing fast.

  91. avenell says:

    Morning kelsey.

    My theory is, if the midfield created more chances the defence could stay back and do there job.
    But the defence are taking it on themselves to create chances causing bad positioning.

    Sorry to hear about your dog. 😦

  92. Irishgunner says:

    No Defour or Witsel for Liege 😀

  93. Irishgunner says:

    Defour is actually out for three months – good news for us

  94. rico says:

    Afternoon Guys and Gals

    Kelsey – that is such sad news about Rocky, a horrible decision to make 😦

  95. Rasputin says:

    Hi Roadsters,

    Am in agreement with all the comments except, I have to disagree with you London re Ade’s goal celebration. It had nothing to do with the 70 yard dash, but everything to do with the reaction it inspired. A steward was knocked unconscious and others could have been seriously hurt … it was incitement. I await with some trepidation to see the reception Ade receives when he comes to the Emirates. The citeh fans are a hard bunch and I can see there being crowd trouble outside and inside the ground and that would not be the case if Ade had behaved like a grown up…… There is already a return of crowd violence due to unrest in society and I don’t want to see it tainting football or our supporters who have been amongst the best behaved in recent years.

  96. Irishgunner says:

    Rasp – Adebayor won’t play at the Emirates. He’ll either have sulked by then or will have an “injury”.

    My latest:

  97. avenell says:

    New Post..

    Re paste your last comment in if you want to irish please.. 🙂

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