All in all, a very satisfactory weekend for the good guys.

Will Vieira re-sign for us? I suspect, unfortunately, not, I think it is now fairly clear that this little gem of a rumour was used as part of the promotion campaign to sell tickets for the Emirates Cup; what better way to stir up interest than to hint at the return of the prodigal son — our very own Patrick Vieira. The quid pro quo was that Vieira got his name in the shop window; his time at Inter must surely be coming to an end. I suspect this story is set to fade into the distance along with our one time hero and star from Senegal.

One star may be waning but another is rising and you know who I am talking about. Wilshire was doing things over the weekend that I didn’t realise he could do — and I like to think that I keep abreast of all things Arsenal but he shocked me. I knew he could make an incisive pass but where did those turns in the box come from and goals…..goals, did you expect him to be a goal scorer as well as being able to play Bergkamp quality, defence splitting passes?

The thing that amused me was the reaction of Fabregas to Wilshire, nothing untoward, more of a confused amazement……..I was imagining him struggling with the alien concept of an Englishman who could play football. If you think about it, it is not something that Fabregas has seen much of, well there is Walcott but his close control leaves a lot to be desired. Jack is obviously earning Fabregas’s respect and it won’t be long until our Captain works out how to use him to his maximum ability in the same way he did with Hleb and Henry for that matter.

On the subject of reactions, Arshavin brought a smile to my face; he was clearly the life and soul of the party yesterday, nothing captured this better for me than when the team was going off at half time and he had just played, what probably already is the pass of the season, to put Eduardo clear on a one on one with the keeper which very unusually he missed, Arshavin was teasing him over it with a huge smile on his face. A similar thing happened when they came out, he and Fabregas were laughing their heads off together.

Point of interest for me yesterday was Wenger’s surprising persistence with a 4.3.3 formation, I have no problem with it, but in the early part of any game it usually requires fast players, as is the case with the Barça attack, which leads me to think that he might be considering Walcott in a more central role. It should be interesting.


597 Responses to All in all, a very satisfactory weekend for the good guys.

  1. London says:

    Hello Roadsters

    Off we go again

  2. Irishgunner says:

    With Wilshere’s clear ability to play on the wing – same goes for Rosicky, Arshavin and Nasri obviously – it could well be time for Walcott to go central.

    I was looking forward to Paddy coming back 😦

  3. Rasputin says:

    Good points London … and probably sad but true re: Vieira.

    I forgot to mention earlier that Merida looked like first team quality. There were a couple of stray passes, but he worked very hard and tackled back well. In my opinion, he looked every bit as good as Denilson. We need to brush up on our free kicks because I can’t remember of one in either game that got past the wall when intended as a shot on goal.

  4. Rasputin says:

    One other point whilst I am talking to myself … I can’t understand why we have a deliberate policy of floating corners in. It gives the opposition (who are invariably taller than our players) too much time to clear. I don’t know how our stats of goals scored per corner compare, but I’d guess not favourably.

  5. London says:


    The corner system must be about to change it seems to have dated as quick as the idea the Adebayor used to play for Arsenal has done. The other thing I would expect to stop are the high balls in from the wing; this should benifit Saga who, as we know, has never got to grips with it.

  6. Rasputin says:

    I hope you’re right London. We had some pretty good short corners with RVP jinking into the box, but opposition manager’s cottoned on and seemed to snuff them out. I would prefer to see the ball whipped in as the resultant ‘pinball effect’ means that the chance of deflections/og’s is greatly increased.

    We should win more penalties with our skillful players getting into the box with the ball at their feet at every opportunity. We should brush up on our freekicks – Tomas has a mean shot on him. Still, all in all, yesterday’s performance gave me a lot of confidence for the season ahead. It will be nice to relax once we have got the CL qualifiers out of the way.

  7. avenell says:

    Good post London.. I’m not sure on Vieira, I don’t think Arsene would say what he didn’t mean.

    Why does a lot of people want a left footed winger? When we clearly like has been stated don’t do crosses. We want the flicks, one two’s and movement that Rosicky, Arshavin, and Fabregas bring..

    Not the Toure, bang it up to Ade like last year. Plan “B” crap..
    Ade, Theo, and to an extent RvP ruined our football, the weekend clearly shows it is coming back..
    Not sure about Merida either.. 😦

  8. avenell says:

    Also Jack showed what a left footed right midfielder can do .. cutting in leaving Sagna to overlap, or a pass in to Fabregas, or a go on goal himself.. Something Mr one dimensional Theo cannot bring to the party..

  9. London says:


    I expect Adebayor to be with next season (Wenger) two days before he was sold. It’s politics, he dealt with the Vieira situation by saying that he is considering it…..yeah right, Arsene.

  10. avenell says:

    As you would say London.. show me the quote..

  11. avenell says:

    Was it this one on the 3rd of July?

    The Arsenal boss said: “If he does not want to stay, he will leave but I think that he will be still at Arsenal this season.”

    I don’t see that as a lie.. Wenger clearly sates he will leave if he wants to..

  12. Irishgunner says:

    1204 BST: Liverpool have signed Roma midfielder Alberto Aquilani for £15.3m. (Spanish newspaper Marca)

    So it seems Alonso on his way out. Aquilani is a good player but very injury prone. 🙂

  13. avenell says:

    Italians are always a gamble too .. not many seem to settle over here.. Zola and er..

  14. Irishgunner says:

    Dossena? 😆

  15. avenell says:

    Kelsey I am sick to death of all this arguing.. you are banned!!!

  16. rico says:

    Afternoon everyone 😛

    Dippers have got a sicknote then, Alonso coming to us ???? 😉

  17. rico says:

    Oh dear, have I picked a bad time 😦

  18. rico says:

    Oh well,

    Well summed up London, just hope the Paddy bit turns out to be wrong 😉 I think he could add so much off the field ..

    Where are all our new players 😉

  19. London says:

    Afternoon Rico

    I think Wenger said signings before the start of the season so he has 11 days by my reckoning. We shall see!

  20. London says:

    Afternoon Ave

    We seem to have developed an amazing ability to pick up opposite ends of a stick.

    avenell Says:
    August 3, 2009 at 1:34 pm edit

    Good post London.. I’m not sure on Vieira, I don’t think Arsène would say what he didn’t mean.

    I don’t understand where you think I have said that Wenger would say something he doesn’t mean. I certainly haven’t said that in the head line post. I didn’t even mention his name until the last paragraph. Where have I gone wrong this time 😉

  21. London says:


    If you are having as bad a day as I think you are, don’t bother answering the one above, it can wait.

  22. rico says:

    Hi London – 11 days it is then 😉

    Trust me I remain very confident 🙂

  23. avenell says:

    London.. Nah it’s okay ..

    I thought you mean’t Wenger told little white ones.. when you put this….

    I expect Adebayor to be with next season (Wenger) two days before he was sold. It’s politics, he dealt with the Vieira situation by saying that he is considering it…..yeah right, Arsene.

    So I put on what I thought was the full quote..

    I have never heard Wenger actually lie.. I think he says as much as he can or the circumstances change..

  24. rico says:

    You just got up ave ?? 😉

  25. London says:

    Hi Rico

    I think we have every reason to be confident about new signings, Wenger was absolutely clear about it in his post Athletico interwiew. One or two new signings but not more before the season starts. He was also steering everyone away from the idea of signing another forward. So defenders it is…..that will be fine with me.

  26. rico says:

    I am very confident, honest, but I am not sure it will only be two London – I just have a feeling we could be in for a treat – or am I just getting carried away 😉

  27. avenell says:

    I wish I had Rico..

    London, Do you beleive these Chamakh rumours.. They seem quite strong?

  28. London says:

    Nah, cross wires again; Wenger can be as slippery as a politician but I would never suggest that he tells porkies.

  29. rico says:

    ave – I do, he has walked out in a huff, he can leave on a free next year and we have made an offer, that’s why I think more than two ave 😛 😉

  30. avenell says:

    London.. But you said.. Then I said… So you said.. haha..

  31. London says:


    At the right price, yes, I do think that Chamakh will happen, mostly based on my belief that Vela is going out on loan.

    I don’t mind if he comes in; Chamakh is not a player of sufficient status that he will demand a starting place. He will have to earn it and if he makes it great if not someone like Sunderland will buy him at a profit.

    I like everyone else would like to see a greater importance placed on the defensive frailties when it comes to new signings.

  32. London says:

    Yeah, but, no but 😉

  33. rico says:

    Off for a short while, catch you later

  34. avenell says:

    I’m still not convinced we are that weak in defence.. I feel once the team starts closing down when they lose the ball like Barca do we will be okay..

    The work ethic has gone out of the team and only shows up in a few games.. Like when we went down to 10 men just before christmas when Song played a blinder.. cannot remember who it was against now..

  35. London says:

    I wish I was going to Valencia next week. I have seen Arsenal play there twice, I know my favourite hotel, my favourite restaurant……and what’s more I think it will be a good game.

  36. Irishgunner says:

    That was against Liverpool Avenell

  37. London says:

    You may have discovered my kryptonite: I can’t argue against a positive view……nor would I really want to 😉

  38. avenell says:

    Thanks Irish.. my memory isn’t what it used to

    London I have felt better since Adebayor cannot be chosen anymore (that ryhmes)

    “Adebayor, Adebayor he cannot be chosen anymore!”

    I think now the dressing room is a happier place we will see the work rate go up as players will work for each other.. Just Statman to sort out..

  39. Irishgunner says:

    never guess who got sent of that day Avenell? ….. Adebayor 😆

  40. Rasputin says:

    Good old Tomas …… sticking it up Kolo…..

    TOMAS ROSICKY has slammed those doubting Arsenal’s title credentials and roared: We’re not afraid of anyone.
    Czech international Rosicky has returned to action following 18 months out with a series of niggling injuries.

    Yet despite seeing Emmanuel Adebayor and Kolo Toure join Manchester City this summer he points to the Gunners’ pre-season form as an indicator of a bright future.

    Yesterday’s 3-0 win over Scottish champions Rangers to lift the Emirates Cup made it six friendly games unbeaten.

    And attacking midfielder Rosicky, 28, said: “I don’t think the best players have left.

    “We have still got Andrey Arshavin and Cesc Fabregas and they are great players.

    “I don’t see why we should be afraid of anyone.

    “I see the potential and think we need to focus on what we have got.

    “We have got plenty of options and that is why I feel we will be stronger than last season.

    “We know what we have to do better and we are not blind. I can see the positives.

    “I hope we can achieve something together and we will fight for trophies this year.”

  41. Rasputin says:

    “I don’t think the best players have left” ….. ha ha too bloody right.

    We have the best midfield of any club in the premiership by some margin going by yesterday’s performance….

    Adebayor would not have had the technique to score any of the goals over the weekend…..

  42. avenell says:

    Rasputin, That is a good point that last sentance, we would have been like flies buzzing around a cow pat..

    Irish.. Oh yeah.. the old double stamp.. it’s all coming back to me now.

  43. Rasputin says:

    Is it something I’ve said? 😦

    The report is that we’ve offered £7m for Chamakh and their president wants £15m … big difference, but obviously a starting point for negotiations. This one will go right to the wire ala AA deal I reckon. I’d better start to like this guy as it looks increasingly like he’s on his way. I read earlier that he won’t be a first choice for the side (sorry I can’t remember who said it) – but at £15m you’d think he’d have to be of that quality….

  44. Rasputin says:

    Just going to pick my son up from the station .. feel free to ‘engage me’ whilst I’m away 😉

  45. Irishgunner says:

    Not on your nelly will Wenger give £15mil for him.

    €10mil for the man or he isn’t coming. He’s in the last year of his contract, doesn’t wasn’t to play for Bordaeux anymore and isn’t exactly causing a bidding war.

  46. JonJon says:

    hello guys…

    london good points in the post…

    i especially like

    “Jack is obviously earning Fabregas’s respect and it won’t be long until our Captain works out how to use him to his maximum”

    exactley…along with the likes of AA, dudu and tomas…jack can also play wengerball…

    cesc looked poor at times last year becasue diaby,walcott,denilson,adebayor cant play wengerball…

    cesc now has a load of passing, talented, defence penetrating buddies to play with…and we will see him and wengerball flow again next season…

    we just need to learn how to close down quicker…which is why id like to see a midfielder bought in the next couple of weeks who can run a little…a midfield general…

    every team needs someone to start the ball rolling…

    and its normally in the midifeld…seeing as though thats the engine room…

    we have cesc to orchestrate the attacks….

    so id like another player next to him who can orchestrate the defending…

    he leads…they all follow…

  47. London says:

    Evening Jonjon

    I think this season we are going to see Wengerball like we have never seen it before.

    I agree with you that we need to learn to close down quicker.

  48. Rasputin says:

    Cesc was playing in front of the back four yesterday, just picking up short passes from Sylvestre and Gallas and orchestrating play from the back. With the likes of LJ and AA ahead of him, he can release the ball secure in the knowledge that it is in capable and constructive hands (or should that be feet 😛 )

  49. Rasputin says:

    Ave – you don’t seem to like Merida…… jonJon – you don’t seem to like Ramsey. I like them both and would say that they are on the verge (1 year) of being good enough to start games. trouble is we’re already blessed with so many quality attacking midfield players. Ramsey is attacking by nature. They both prefer to play centrally. Merida’s left foot and Ramsey’s right are both pretty potent. They both have goals in them. I can’t see where Diaby fits in with the scheme of things. He should play for a European club … better suited to his style.

  50. London says:

    So it is a choice for Chamakh between us and Sunderland; we have offered 7 mil, Bordeaux want 15 mil…we will pay 8 mil tops.

    Rasp, it was me who said that he wasn’t a player of such a stature that he would automatically demand a first team place……8 mil? I think I am still right.

  51. Rasputin says:

    I agree London for £8m – £15m (Nasri type price) and you’d expect him to start most important games. Clearly, as Irish says, they’re having a giraffe asking £15m. I do think it’ll go to the wire. If AW wants him and he wants to play for us then that will keep Sunderland at bay, but I’m sure they are prepared to offer more than us at this juncture.

  52. avenell says:

    Rasp.. it’s not really ‘not like’.. I just haven’t seen it in him yet, I have watched the reserves too and he has never stood out for me.. I would like him to come through of course I would..

  53. London says:


    It seems more likely than not that concerns about Diaby will remain but IMHO he still has one more season’s grace to prove himself. It should me interesting to see just how much he has bulked up as he claims to have been doing during the break.

  54. avenell says:

    They will bottle it over Chamakh.. he will be worthless at Christmas to them..

  55. JonJon says:

    hi rasp..

    i like the look of merida..

    and im still not sure about rambo…i reckon hes more than a year away…

    it worries me hes another theo….

  56. Rasputin says:

    Ok ave … its like AW says, consistency is what you look for young gifted players to develop. They have the technique and the desire, its the decision making, reading of the game and ability to work with other players I suppose that comprises ‘experience’ in manager’s terminology.

  57. Rasputin says:

    Hi JonJon, how would you rate Ramsey’s contribution yesterday. He was very composed when he picked up the ball, had a look and chipped it over the defender for LJ to get his second. He is attacking, so Song would be a better bet playing alongside Cesc I agree.

  58. JonJon says:

    i still dont understand why we are wasting any money on another unproven strker…especially when we have so many options there already….

    its like the alonso/ramsey incident all over again

    we offerd 2/3 million less than what pool wanted for alonso…yet we give cardiff 5 mil for an unproven…

    alonsos now worth 30mil…..

    i dont want that situation again…

  59. Irishgunner says:

    Chamackh is said to have claimed he was “ill” last night and pulled out of the squad to play Villarreal.

    Chamackh has all but refused to play for Bordeaux again.

    Chamackh has one year left on his contract.

    Chamackh isn’t David Villa.

    Chamackh is said to be in London and his agent is talking to Arsenal.

    If this is true then a fee must be agreed or else are tapping up.

    In conclusion, Bordeaux are trying to make Chamackh look like the bad guy – “We tried to keep him oh dear supporters”.

  60. Rasputin says:

    I know what you mean when you compare Ramsey to Theo JonJon … but for me, the comparison is more to do with the media hype that has surrounded them. I think Ramsey has a better footballing brain than Theo. rico wants to see Theo play centrally as a striker .. if that’s the case, he should observe Dudu. I watched him closely yesterday and he was on the shoulder of the last defender, making runs, pulling defenders wide to make space for other players. Pundits don’t often use the phrase, but players have to be constructive when they don’t have the ball, and Dudu was certainly that yesterday.

  61. Rasputin says:

    Irish … do you rate him? … do you want him at Arsenal?

    You pointed out that clubs aren’t queuing up to get his signature – that worries me I must say….

  62. JonJon says:

    i just dont see ramsey as a complete midfielder rasp…

    like you say hes more attacking…but when it comes to the rest of the squad he doesnt quite match up and theres nothing in his game to suggest that he’ll be any better than the likes of cesc.jacky, nasri…
    and the age diffence isnt that great…
    so where does he play???

    do we try fit him in like we do with diaby and theo…and the team suffers or do we sit him on the bench for the next 5 years and throw 5 mil down the drain…???

  63. JonJon says:

    i thought ramsey was ok rasp…nothing special…

    i though merida and jacky stood out more

  64. Irishgunner says:

    I know very little about him Rasputin but by all accounts he seems to have everything but the consistent finish.

    Talking to people who watch the French League, he is very quick, strong, works hard and can head a ball. Just not great with finishing.

    He might be a good foil for Eduardo though.

  65. Rasputin says:

    I think the potential that some see in Ramsey is that ability to ‘Steven Gerrard like’ pick up the game by the scruff of the neck and drive it forward. I’ve seen glimpses of that, but not consistently enough. He is hungry for the ball and shows for it all the time. Last season, I got the feeling that some players didn’t want the ball and those famous triangles that AW champions weren’t always there. Nasri would run down dead ends and other players wouldn’t help him out at times.

  66. Rasputin says:

    I think Chamakh got 15 goals last season, but is always reported as being the difference that took them to the top of the league. In the prem, 15 goals would not do that from a striker, but would be an excellent return from a midfielder. I think he’s another No. 10 (we’ve got loads of those)

  67. JonJon says:

    this is the thing that annoys me about the youth system…

    we have so many talented youngsters but wenger likes to stick with the likes of diaby and edoue in positions they cant play

    when theres kids that are miles ahead of them talent wise yet have to sit on the bench and watch those guys play nothing more than average and still get chance after chance…

    jacky played some blinders last year in the CC yet wenger still persisted with eboue and denilson and diaby as the wide attacking players….even though they had stinker after stinker

    at the same time vela was scoring for fun and nikki was having some stinkers yet vela still had to sit on the bench and watch nikki every week play like a pub player until the last two months…by that time velas form had dropped…

    it was like the england team under sven…didnt matter how shit you were playing he picked his favorites….

    for me…if your in form you play…if your not you get dropped…

    wenger at times last year dropped the inform players and picked the ones that were playing shit….

    FA CUP semi was a prime example….

    the game against wigan was a prime example….nasri gets injured…jacky and vela on the bench and wenger puts eboue on the left wing….

    stupid stupid decisions….that pissed me right off…

    i dont want to see the same decisions this season…

  68. JonJon says:

    i dont get why we feel the need to sign a striker who has scored 15 goals in 50 games for his national side

    and scored 50 goals in over 200 appearances for his club side…

    plus the fact hes african…he’ll be in the team then he wont…ACN

    if we are gonna buy a striker lets but a proper finsher…

    we have dudu…vela coming through…we could use another we have enough no 10’s

    i dont want chamkakakakakak

  69. JonJon says:

    would anyone feel abit pissed off if we signed this chamkkkkaakakaka bloke then a proven finisher went for 11mil to another team…

    who arent exactley setting the world on fire anymore either???

  70. Irishgunner says:

    If we could have got Huntelaar for €11mil then that was a chance missed.

    Especially if we are talking €8mil for this lad.

  71. Rasputin says:

    I’m with you on this one JonJon … I can’t see why AW thinks we need him. Better spend the money on Matuidi and a CB

  72. Rasputin says:

    Huntelaar would be my first choice of all the apparent options

  73. Irishgunner says:

    Just reading the Bordeaux forum for want of nothing better to do and they seem very fond of him.

  74. Irishgunner says:

    “Frankly I am asked to choose between Mario Gomez or Adebayor and Chamakh, I choose Marouane without hesitation.
    It is very, very underrated …
    I heard that Tottenham proposed 9M I thought mad … Serious, or a player like that!
    If it was not in its final year of contract, this man it would be 20-25M!

    In short, it is a player I love, next year, even if not I would get his name flocked behind my jersey is a kind of homage.

    If only he could stay !!!!!!”

  75. Irishgunner says:

    oh, apparently he is making some form of statement at 9 o’clock tonight

  76. JonJon says:

    i wonder if hes signed a new deal at borduex???

    and is putting everyone right about what theyve been saying last few days??

    interesting…keep us updated irish…

  77. Irishgunner says:

    updates coming as soon as…

    They don’t like Arsene in the French League, he weakened it by stealing all the good players ha ha funny cos its true 🙂

  78. Irishgunner says:

    “Il dément avoir été à Londres.
    Il attend que les dirigeants de Bordeaux et Arsenal se mettent d’accord mais si ca le fait pas il pourra pas partir. ”

    He denies having been in London.

    It expects that the leaders of Bordeaux and Arsenal agree but if it not the fact he can not leave.

  79. Irishgunner says:

    From what I am reading on the forum he also said that he loves Bordeaux but that another season there would be bad for him.

  80. JonJon says:

    weve got them over a barrel anyway…if we are after him…and he wants to join…

    they either give him to us now for peanuts or lose him for diddly next year…

  81. Irishgunner says:

    * He said he has never been in London, it was false reports from the French media. He was just sick and couldn’t play with the rest of the team.
    * There’s 2 Clubs interested in him, Sunderland and Arsenal, he wants to join one of those clubs.
    * He said to his president that he wanted to leave, it’s his wish, but if it’s not possible he’ll stay at Bordeaux.
    * He thinks he’s worth not more than £5m. And he understands that Arsenal dont want to offer more.
    * Wenger has never called him, it’s his agents who are working on the deal.

    Gooner talk must be reading the same forum I am 😆

  82. avenell says:

    Irish .. this isn’t the statement is it?.. Is that still to come?

  83. Irishgunner says:

    It is the statement Avenell, France are an hour ahead it was 9pm there so 8pm here.

    It was an interview with a radio station – RMC.

  84. JonJon says:

    well sunderland are signing bent so….???

  85. Irishgunner says:

    Ha ha €7mil it is so 😆

  86. London says:

    Being the padantic so and so that I am.

    “Il dément avoir été à Londres.
    Il attend que les dirigeants de Bordeaux et Arsenal se mettent d’accord mais si ca le fait pas il pourra pas partir. ”

    He denies being in London
    He hopes that Bordeaux and Arsenal reach an agreement but if that doesn’t happen he will not be able to leave.

    What are you reading Irish?

  87. Rasputin says:

    I’m probably behind the times with all this Chamakh stuff going on … I presume you’ve all read this…

    The Swiss Football Association have confirmed that Philippe Senderos will join Everton in the coming days.

    Arsenal’s 24-year-old centre back was expected to fight for his place at the club following an injury-plagued loan spell at AC Milan last season.

    With less than a year left on his contract, Senderos is now on the verge of completing a reported £7million move to David Moyes’ side, the Swiss FA admitting that the transfer details are undisclosed.

  88. Irishgunner says:

    I’m reading the Bordeaux fans forum on the official site and because I’m too lazy to text my French skills I’m using google translate 😉

    Message is the same.

  89. Irishgunner says:

    *test not text

  90. Irishgunner says:

    Yep Rasp saw that somewhere earlier on.

  91. JonJon says:

    senderlump has been gone since the weekend…

    so thats another 7mil

    eboues next…another 7mil

    wengers gonna be armed with a 55mil warchest…. 😉

  92. London says:


    They seem to think that the offer of only 6 mil has been made. A lot of them seem to be as fed up with it all, as we were with Ade, they just want him gone.

  93. avenell says:

    Lets pay off the stadium and win the League.. Wengerstyle.. 🙂

  94. Irishgunner says:

    Yep London, well £5-6m were the figures floating around today.

    Here’s what he said:

    Invité sur RMC ce soir, Marouane Chamakh a une nouvelle fois exprimé son désir de quitter Bordeaux. L’attaquant franco-marocain ne s’imagine pas aller au clash et envisage même d’aller au bout de son contrat si les Girondins le bloquent. Mais il n’apprécie guère l’attitude du club à son égard :

    “Bordeaux est peut-être supérieur à Sunderland. Mais je veux découvrir le championnat anglais, et puis ça peut me servir de tremplin. Il y a un stade de 50 000 personnes, un super entraîneur, si ça peut me permettre de rejoindre un grand club dans deux ans… Je pense avoir fait le tour de Bordeaux. Je n’ai jamais trichié. J’espère avoir un retour, pour l’instant je n’en ai pas. Si Bordeaux me bloque, je resterai une saison de plus, mais je ne prolongerai pas. Donc tout le monde sera perdant, car je me sentirai trahi et, me connaissant, je ne serai pas à 100% sur le terrain. Je n’ai rien contre Gomis par exemple, mais les prix sont surévalués cette année. Arsenal a proposé £7M, c’est ma juste valeur, et Bordeaux réclame beaucoup trop. Le club et Laurent Blanc, soit-disant, veulent mon bien, mais maintenant qu’Arsenal est là, ils n’ont plus aucune excuse. C’est bien de tenir un beau discours, mais il faut s’y tenir. C’est un double jeu que je n’aime pas du tout.”

  95. London says:

    That’s Villa territory…….where is that man going? Are we about to join the big time again, I mean the very big time? If you don’t have a dream, you’ve got to have a dream….night night.

  96. Rasputin says:

    One man’s dream is another’s insanity 😛 – we’re not going to sign villa … but dream on

  97. JonJon says:

    or we could just spend 5mil of it on vieira and matuidi and then put the rest toward the stadium…

  98. peachesgooner says:

    Give it to me – I’ll spend it on some plants…. 🙂

  99. Rasputin says:

    Do I sense a U turn amongst the majority on here or is it just irony? We don’t improve the squad by buying players – we pay off SOME (not all) of the debt … Forgive me if I’m getting the wrong end of the stick … 😳

  100. avenell says:

    Rasp.. That last comment was slightly tongue in cheek, but I have stated how I feel.. With Tommy and Dudu back and Arsh I think we can do it this year..
    One more player or Matuldi, with Vieira teaching him would be enough..

  101. Rasputin says:

    So you don’t want Chamakh then ave? 😉

  102. avenell says:

    I don’t know anything about him Rasp.. I think he is a Grimandi choice..

  103. rico says:

    Heloooooooooooo all, sorry, I have had a busy night, the chickens decided they wanted to play, however for us it was no game 😉 gggrrrrr

    Now they are all tucked up safe in bed and that is where I am heading – I will be back to annoy you all toromorrow 😉 😉

    Chamakh is to be a Gooner – now that I am happy about, he will be our top scorer with 50 goals…. 😛 😛 😛 😛

    Nighty night all, stay safe 😉

  104. rico says:

    AC Milan are reportedly on the verge of completing the signing of Real Madrid striker Klaas-Jan Huntelaar.

    The Dutchman’s time at the Bernabeu – along with several of his fellow countrymen – is seemingly over following the return of former president Florentino Perez, who has already splashed more than €200 million on stellar signings including Kaka, Cristiano Ronaldo and Karim Benzema.

    I will leave you all with this 😦

  105. avenell says:

    Nite rico.. x

  106. Rasputin says:

    Sleep well rico……

  107. peachesgooner says:

    Hi rico/Bye rico – hope you had a nice day, I won’t be around tmoro either – working in the garden of Sunderlands new striker….catch up sometime 🙂

  108. peachesgooner says:

    rico – I’ve just read your 9.23 😦 you’d think any footballer that saw our Jack this weekend would be desperate to play with us…….what do they know eh…

  109. peachesgooner says:

    This is much more fun – chatting away to myself – no-one to interupt…….

  110. Rasputin says:

    Hi peaches,

    It appears there are certain times of day when you can hear an echo when you post! – I find 2 o-clock a bit of a tumbleweed time!!

  111. peachesgooner says:

    Hi rasp – just you and me then 🙂

  112. peachesgooner says:

    So , it looks like Arsene has chosen Chakamamma over Le Hunter.

    Did you say earlier that its interesting that Arsene would have paid £5m for Ramsey and not gone the extra £2m for Alonso last summer…..I agree, at the time I thought Ramsey must be pretty special, I still think he is – he has that calmness on the ball that only special players have – Cesc has it too – Thierry had it…… if they have complete power with the ball at their feet…..

  113. Rasputin says:

    Appears so,

    I was thinking about the Emirates cup game yesterday. We sat with entire families – 3 or maybe even 4 generations of gooners all going to celebrate the football together. It was an opportunity to enjoy great football in a relaxed atmosphere. I don’t know if they’re narked with us for not writing an in depth report, but I relished the chance to just chill out at my favourite place and soak up the atmosphere…..

  114. Rasputin says:

    Yes, apart from LJ, I think Ramsey, Merida, Coquelin and Sanchez Watt will all play a part in our future. They are just graduating from the Arsene Wenger school of total football and are soon to be ready to make their way in the big wide world 🙂

  115. peachesgooner says:

    You’re right about the family atmosphere – just as with the FA Youth cup it was a chance for youngsters to be at the ground and for oldies too, safe in the knowledge that it didn’t really matter what the outcome was 😆

  116. peachesgooner says:

    I think Sanchez Watt was rewarded for his excellent play in the FA Youth cup and thats why he was in the squad – Coquelin should have been in the squad IMO

  117. JonJon says:

    i aint narked rasp…why would you think that? 😦

    thats the midfeild i think we’ll see in the CC…

    jack, ramsey,coquelin,merida…

    although im not sure wether meridas a winger or a central player yet…

    hes very talented and direct and agressive going towards the goal…its hard to guess wengers plans for him…

    evening peaches…i hope you plant nettles in bents garden…or spuds.. 😉

  118. JonJon says:

    i like coquelin peaches…

    lots of energy and tenacity…id prefer him to denilson now…

  119. peachesgooner says:

    Hi JonJon – now hes not a Spud his garden is going to be an Oasis of calm and fabulousness 🙂

    I’ve seen Merida on the wing and in the middle with Coquelin – he was very good in both positions

  120. peachesgooner says:

    I agree JJ, Coquelin is still quite slight though and that might be why hes not come through yet – mind you Denilson was only a slip of a thing when he got his chance – Arsene is funny isn’t he – we never really have any idea what hes going to do…..

  121. JonJon says:

    i was impressed with him yesterday…

    likes to shoot…i like doubt wenger will train it out of him…

    but if you dont shoot,you dont score…

  122. peachesgooner says:

    There you have it in a nutshell – can’t defend, don’t want to score 🙂 But we love them……

  123. JonJon says:

    i mentioned the same thing earlier…sort of..

    theres players in the reserves that have more talent than some of the 1st team…

    yet wenger will watch some of the kids tear grown men new bumholes..

    then persist with players like diaby and eboue out of position in the 1st team and they struggle…

    remember when the kids beat wigan 3-0quite easily??? then wenger fielded his ‘best’ team agianst the same side in the league and we struggled to a 1-0…

    and eboue was a sub that had to be subbed???

  124. JonJon says:

    im off to bed…

    night all..

  125. Rasputin says:

    Nite JonJon .. sleep well

  126. peachesgooner says:

    Nite nite JJ 🙂

  127. peachesgooner says:

    Aha there you are rasp – be back in a minute have to close my roof 😉

  128. Rasputin says:

    The French coach has dropped Vieira and told him to sort out his future and choose between Arsenal and totnum … quelle plonkeur?

  129. peachesgooner says:

    Thats the coach I assume – why would anyone ever need to choose between us and them…..thats ridiculous…..

  130. rico says:

    Morning All

    Everton want Senderos, we NEED Lescott – wonder if there is a slight chance that all this Citeh stuff surrounding Lescott is just a smoke screen and we are busy sorting out a swap + cash deal for him – seems like logic to me 😉

  131. rico says:

    Ronaldo’s old house in Alderley Edge, Cheshire has been snapped up by new Manchester City striker Emmanuel Adebayor for £5.5m. The former Arsenal striker beat off competition from team-mates Kolo Toure, Gareth Barry, Carlos Tevez as well as Manchester United winger Antonio Valencia

  132. London says:

    Morning Rico

    I am going to write to Arsenal and suggest they take you on as an adviser to Gazidis….that swap deal with Everton is very clever.

    I bet the residents of Alderley Edge are really looking forward to the arrival of Adebayor……There goes the neighbourhood.

  133. rico says:

    Ha ha London, that’s very kind of you 😛

    There will be dreadful ‘dancing in the streets’ 😉

  134. rico says:

    On a serious note ref that London, Citeh are quite likely to be challenging Everton for a UEFA Cup place this coming season, if they sell them their best CH they are helping them in their challenge.

    If they are willing to sell him, and that is because I think he has asked to be sold, logic would say they either sell him to an overseas club or to one that won’t in reality prevent them from achieving a UEFA spot.

    As they stand right now, I honestly can’t see Citeh breaking into the top four.

  135. avenell says:

    Morning Roadsters..

    I have just read that the scousers want £30 million plus another £4 million for Alonso.. wow..

    I can see why Wenger is not writing cheques out left, right and centre..

  136. rico says:

    Morning ave – that is silly money….

  137. avenell says:

    Morning Rico..

    The problem is 2 or 3 clubs that don’t generate their own income have inflated the market and clubs that try to keep up with them will fall flat on their faces..
    Wenger is too clever.

  138. rico says:

    Agree, and it serves them right, no wonder our boss is so shrew in the market – one day soon we will be watching the others fold while we are ticking over just nicely 😉

    Cheap defender it will be then 😉

  139. avenell says:

    What do you think of Kalou..

    I cannot tell as he doesn’t fit Chelsea’s style of play..
    He could do a Forlan and go from not scoring to best in the league..
    Or he might not 😦

  140. Irishgunner says:

    “Gunners closing in on Kalou capture” 😯

    Why??? Why? Why?

  141. avenell says:

    Morning Irish.. your an early bird today..

  142. rico says:

    Morning Irish

    I am not surprised by the link to Kalou to be honest, he sent a clear message to Arsene in January.

    It seem quite clear now that the boss wants a striker and its between him and Chamakh – either one is pretty much of a similar risk imho – both are pretty good, and either could find themselves scoring many many goals at Arsenal – and equally both could be a disaster…

    Out of the two, I would prefer the one who has not been tainted by the blue shirt 😉

  143. Irishgunner says:

    Morning Avenell and Rico,

    I’m always up at this time, just normally animals need to be feed but that’s all done this morning 🙂

    I’d rather Chamackh than Kalou.

  144. rico says:

    Compare the

    I am sure that is old Jose Moanrihno voice talking on the advert…. 😉

  145. avenell says:

    Rico.. Have you seen the website?.. very, very, clever..

  146. rico says:

    Thats rich coming from you ave, you are normally in bed til midday 😉

  147. rico says:

    i havent ave, may take a peep later

  148. Irishgunner says:

    Kalou plays right wing?

    Walcott into the middle?

  149. avenell says:

    How would you know rico? 😉

  150. Irishgunner says:

    he’s left wing but is right footed

  151. London says:

    It’s not often that I break out in an uncontrolable chuckle when reading something on a blog but the idea of Jose’s voice being used as a meerkat just did it.

  152. avenell says:

    Kalou in for £8 mill..

    Sell Walcott for £28 million, add Sedersaurus’s, Toure’s and Ade’s money to that, pay off a third of the stadium loan..
    Better for the long term and we have a better squad this season..
    Well done Arsene you are the nuts.. 🙂

  153. rico says:

    Irish – I didn’t even know he was in to politics 😉

    Avenell 😳

  154. rico says:

    😛 Irish – wait until the nest time you see the advert on the television 😉 😉

  155. Irishgunner says:

    HA HA Rico very drool 😉

    I’ve seen the advert, it does sound like Jose come to think of it 😆

  156. Rasputin says:

    Morning roadsters,

    Perhaps we should ask ourselves why it is a good thing to buy players who seemingly aren’t good enough for our premiership rivals?

  157. rico says:

    Morning Rasp – I am not sure we will get Kalou, it could just be a spin for the Chamakh deal…

    Got to pop out for a couple of hours, catch you a lttle later all..

  158. Irishgunner says:

    I don’t like that argument Rasputin, to me its the same as saying “If we don’t buy x for £30mil from Barcelona then the player must be rubbish or he’d be snapped up by the big boys already.”

    Chelsea and Arsenal play very different football and sometimes players don’t fit in or are surplus to requirements.

    Ancelotti will be playing his AC Milan diamond and Kalou probably doesn’t fit in, especially seen as Zhirkov will occupy the left wing.

  159. avenell says:

    Morning Rasp..

    It may be the only way, they were big names we may have wanted before they were signed fo them .. It may just be they don’t fit their system or a lack of confidence from gathering splinters.
    A bit like Bergkamp, Overmars and Henry was but in Italy..

  160. London says:

    Morning Ave & Irish

    Im trying to gauge how seriously to take the idea of kalou arriving. I say to myself, he is in contract negotiations with Chelsea so it is no surprise that his agent is promoting the idea that there is outside interest in an attempt to push up his wages.

    On the other hand I can’t see Chelsea going through a transfer window without signing someone at an over inflated price and it seems that Ribery and Pielo fit that bill; so with that in mind, I find myself taking the Kalou rumour slightly more seriously, as he will want first team football and if Arsène wants you, you know you are going to be one of the favourites and you will play more often than not.

    I am not averse to this signing and I don’t care that he would have played for Chelsea. At 23, the launch pad year for most strikers, kalou could take off with a bit of love and care at THOF.

    Still not conviced? Consider this, at the moment Kalou plays on the right, who would you prefer Eboue or Kalou, you don’t have to answer that question, I know the answer. As things stand it looks like we will get more money from Eboue than it would cost to buy Kalou… brainer.

  161. avenell says:

    Irish.. so you can type faster than me.. 😦

  162. Irishgunner says:

    Morning London – I think Kalou can play equally well on both wings.

    Just on transfers into Chelsea, they have left Di Santo out on loan to Blackburn and he is a good young player so they must be bringing in someone.

  163. London says:

    And me

  164. Irishgunner says:

    Avenell – Typing 8,000 word essays in college every week helped with my typing speed 😉

  165. avenell says:

    Rico.. with your Jose ‘simples’ Mouriniho comment .. I have just searched to see if it could be the same voice behind the meerkat and the Jose puppet on Setanta.. but I cannot see a link, but that is very possible..

  166. avenell says:

    Irish.. I guess spraying cars and cutting grass isn’t as good.. lol..

  167. Rasputin says:

    ave, Irish,

    We don’t need another wide player out of position, or a nearly man, we need a prolific goalscorer. Obviously we are not going to be able to afford an established prolific goalscorer so we will need to source a player who has that potential. If you think Kalou is that player then that’s fine. I don’t agree.

    As soon as it appears we are seriously linked with a player, everyone wracks their brains to try to think why, (contrary to their opinion of that player before we were linked) it would be a master stroke to buy them. If Kalou had been linked to totnum, everyone would say what a joke, he’s another Darren Bent.

  168. Irishgunner says:

    Avenell – it is it is good call. Its Mario Rosenstock that does it.

  169. London says:

    Morning Rasp

    Who do you think is out there, available and could be a prolific goal scorer?

  170. Irishgunner says:

  171. avenell says:

    I don’t go with this each player has one position thing..
    When I was at school, the good players could either pass, dribble and shoot or they could tackle..

    That’s why I don’t go with this Eboue cannot play left wing buisness. a pass is a pass no matter where you are on the pitch..
    As for Kalou. I did say earlier I couldn’t tell how good he is, I only know he is a good athlete and looks a bit lively..

  172. Irishgunner says:

    Rasp – We have Eduardo.

  173. Rasputin says:

    Yes, and thank god Irish. But I would bet my house that AW intends to play with Bendtner and RVP up front and Eduardo won’t start that many games.

  174. avenell says:

    Irish.. cheers, just looked at his wiki page and it doesn’t say he done the ad..

  175. Rasputin says:

    We’ve watched Kalou play for the chavs all season. He’s ok – no better than that. Chelski would not sell us a top player.

    You can’t have it both ways ave – in one sentence you’re saying maybe Kalou doesn’t fit in with their style of play, and in the next you are saying that good footballers should be able to play in any position.

  176. London says:

    Eduardo is so much better when play is condensed in the opponants half, he is the clinical finisher in the box. So, are you saying that it makes sense to bring him on as a sub?

  177. Irishgunner says:

    Eduardo will have to be played if he keeps scoring and is over his injuries. I’m not a fan of the RvP, Nikki B combo.

    Avenell, I’m nearly sure he did that advert. He is on Today FM every morning and I think they mentioned it before.

  178. Rasputin says:

    Hi London, I’d have said that of those that are affordable, Huntelaar would probably have got us the most goals – not because of his technical brilliance but because of his desire and aggression. Kalou is another excellent athlete with very little killer instinct. The way it is looking, I’d expect Arshavin to be our top goalscorer next season.

  179. avenell says:


    Arshavin can play in all attacking positions, but playing him as the lone Centre forward for Chelsea wouldn’t be a good idea..

  180. Rasputin says:

    That’s my problem Irish, we spent most of last season watching our better players sitting on the bench and the likes of Ade and EE playing the majority of games. Diaby will come back into the mix again soon and who knows what time Vela will get on the pitch?

  181. avenell says:

    Rasp at 11.54.. That’s why I think we are stronger this year as that option has gone.. 🙂

  182. Rasputin says:

    OK ave – I don’t get the relevance. So explain to me why Kalou will be a better player for us than he has been for the chavs?

  183. Irishgunner says:

    Rasp – I’m getting a bit worried that Vela will be sent on loan if a Kalou comes in. I hope I’m wrong.

  184. Rasputin says:

    Irish, I don’t think Kalou is any better than Vela – so why buy him? Kalou will also be lost for the ACN won’t he?

  185. avenell says:

    I cannot with Kalou as I have said, I don’t know much about him..

    Why was Bergkamp a better player for us than he was at Inter?
    Horses for courses. I was just generalizing.

  186. Rasputin says:

    Ave , you’ve watched us play the chavs, you’ve watched MOTD haven’t you? Wouldn’t it be more accurate to say that whenever you’ve seen Kalou play he hasn’t left much of an impression and when we’ve played them you haven’t thought to yourself OMG, they’ve got that b’stard Kalou he’ll cause us trouble – in the same way you would have about Drogba.

  187. Irishgunner says:

    I don’t think Kalou is any better ability wise than Vela either but if Vela stays and Kalou is but an option then thats okay.

    I want to see more of Vela this season.

  188. avenell says:

    When I watched him on MOTD.. I have always seen him trying to do it all solo and he misses a lot of chances.. I don’t know if that is him or the rest of the team cannot link with him. I have never looked at him as a player we would be interested in..

  189. Rasputin says:

    Well then we don’t need Kalou. I find myself constantly downgrading my aspirations when it comes to new players. I would have preferred Huntelaar over Chamakh and now I’d prefer Chamakh over Kalou. I think you proved last night Irish that the stuff about Chamakh being in London was pure fabrication. Apparently AW hasn’t spoken to the player or his agent?

  190. Irishgunner says:

    Well Arsenal did make a bid for Chamakh that is a fact but Wenger has not been involved yet because a deal has to be agreed between clubs before the player comes into it.

    We’ve signed a new keeper:

  191. Rasputin says:

    Chavski were more successful than us last season. Hiddink is an excellent manager. If Kalou were that good they’d be keeping him and he’d have made his mark.

  192. JonJon says:

    kalous a no no for me…

    another chamkakaka

    kalous an attacking player…either out wide or centrally…but hes never done anything at chelsea to suggest hes better than what weve got already…

    when we look at our own optoins in kalous positions

    we have AA, nasri, rosicky, walcott, dudu, jacky, nikki, vela, and to a degree rvp…

    not to mention barazite merida and watt

    after watching kalou for 3 years what will kalou bring that these player dont…

    unless we sign a finisher…im not interested in ay more attcking players…. 8mil is alot of money..

    better used elsewhere….

    and hes african…no point selling aload of africans only to replace them with africans… defeats the object of making us more immune to the ACN

    hi guys.. 🙂

  193. Rasputin says:

    Hi JonJon, at last, someone whose on my wavelength….. I was beginning to feel like Robinson Crusoe 😉

  194. avenell says:

    Rasp.. I have not said anywhere that I rate Kalou..

  195. Rasputin says:

    No you haven’t ave … isn’t that fence becoming a bit uncomfortable? Do you want us to spend in the region of £8m on him?

  196. avenell says:

    If we could sell Theo for £28mill then that’s a no brainer for me..

  197. Rasputin says:

    Who ever said that we could/would sell Theo for £28m … have I missed a report somewhere? The Kalou deal is being touted as a ‘possible’ I haven’t read anywhere that we are contemplating selling Theo.

  198. Irishgunner says:

    I never said I rated him either HOWEVER the fence is a good place to be when a transfer seems pretty likely cos lets face it, if he becomes an Arsenal player we’ll at least have to give him a shot and that’s a bit easier if your on the fence as opposed to off the fence and having to climb over it 😉

  199. avenell says:

    The value of Theo in my opinion is £28 million .. English, hat trick man..
    In my opinion if we got Kalou and sold Theo we wouldn’t be losing anything quality wise just getting better value for money..

  200. Rasputin says:

    I have to be honest with myself Irish. I love Arsenal, but I don’t always love all the players. Of course I will support Kalou if he plays for us, but I will not support the idea of buying a player to add to the pool of equally good players we already have in his position. I thought being a football blogger involved having opinions.

    I’m not sure if we are taking opposing views or if ‘sitting on the fence’ is another way of saying that secretly I agree with you, but I’m not going to come out and say it?

  201. JonJon says:

    has wenger pulled out of the chamkaka race??

  202. avenell says:

    How much do you all think Theo is worth if we were to sell him?
    At least 4 years left on his contract..

  203. Irishgunner says:

    Rasp – There are some Arsenal players I don’t like and some I don’t rate but I always defend them to the hilt to opposition fans.

    I don’t really rate Kalou at all and would find it hard to lie about him, so I’m starting now – simples 🙂

  204. avenell says:

    Jonjon.. I would imagine Arsene is waiting for his valuation to drop as the transfer window winds down..

  205. Irishgunner says:

    Jon Jon – Nope, he has basically told Bordeaux to take or leave the offer. He is still interested in him but isn’t going to up the bid.

  206. JonJon says:

    if wenger sold theo we’d easily get 20mil+

    possibly 30 if we could get citeh and chelsea in the bidding

    in which case kalou would be an able replacement…but id rather take joe cole

  207. Irishgunner says:

    Kalou isn’t that bad to be honest but he’s a squad player not a starter imo.

    We’ve enough squad players not enough starters.

  208. avenell says:

    He would be worth £20 mill plus when he is fit again wouldn’t he JJ..

    That’s yet another player ‘arry is openly tapping up.. no sign of the FA sorting him out..

  209. Irishgunner says:

    Wenger would get slaughtered for selling Theo and he knows it. “You can’t sell the Englishman you French B”£$%rd”

  210. JonJon says:

    another AA situation

    wenger will just let his contract run and then go for him at xmas

    im back later

  211. London says:

    Check out the first live training session

  212. avenell says:

    Irish.. he can now ‘lil jack’ is the blue eyed boy..

  213. Rasputin says:

    Thank god for that … it felt like I was on the football blog equivalent of the Stepford wives for a while. If we can’t be honest with each other about Arsenal matters, who can we be honest with?

  214. Irishgunner says:

    Nah Avenell – He’ll have to get Jack, Gibbs and Walcott all playing in the one team. Have to keep Walcott anyway with this new ruling coming in.

  215. Rasputin says:

    I’m off for a while, have a good day roadsters 😛

  216. Irishgunner says:

    Rasp – I think we are pretty honest.

    I think most agree that Theo has been a disappointment and Arshavin is in fact the son of God 😉

    Speaking of Theo – I maintain it all comes down to confidence. He has skill just not enough confidence.

  217. Rasputin says:

    Yes Irish, the opinions that you list are all true and honest … I just couldn’t understand the seemingly false sense of optimism at the prospect of buying Kalou.

    I personally think Theo has to add more facets to his game. the pace is there for all to see, but where is his ability to beat defenders with trickery and get into the box. He’s a very young man, he should be able to develop those skills.

  218. Irishgunner says:

    I’m more trying to think of the possible reasons AW would want to sign Kalou as opposed to optimism. Maybe it seemed optimistic when I was trying to be logical – does that make sense 😕

  219. London says:


    In response to your 12:46

    I don’t understand who was showing a false sense of optimism? Rico, hasn’t mentioned Kalou. Peaches hasn’t been on. Jonjon is against the signing and you have excluded Irish as being honest. This leaves Ave and his comment below clearly shows that he is undecided. And then me, and you know what I am like, by my standards I would describe my comment below as cautiously optimistic. So where is this seemingly false optimism?

    avenell Says:
    August 4, 2009 at 10:50 am edit

    What do you think of Kalou..

    I cannot tell as he doesn’t fit Chelsea’s style of play..

    London Says:
    August 4, 2009 at 11:26 am edit

    I am not averse to this signing and I don’t care that he would have played for Chelsea. At 23, the launch pad year for most strikers, kalou could take off with a bit of love and care at THOF.

  220. Rasputin says:

    Yes, that makes sense Irish, its a great attribute to always look for the positives 😉 – so do you think you’ve managed to uncover AW’s motivation for considering Kalou?

    It appears that we think that the footballing world outside Arsenal has got it wrong with Theo in the same way as they did with Ade. If we think Theo’s worth £25m+ to a potential purchaser but not good enough for us, does it also follow that a player valued at less than that is also not good enough for us? – the answer’s no of course, but while we’re employing comvoluted logic I thought I’d throw it into the mix….

  221. Irishgunner says:

    I can still see Chamackh coming anyway.

    Bordeaux are stuck in a rut with him a bit. Plus they have disrespected Sunderland who have bought Bent anyway.

  222. Irishgunner says:

    I think Arsenal might be sneaky here Rasputin.

    1) This Kalou story might be a complete media fabrication


    2) Someone at Arsenal put out this tale as if to say to Bordeaux “We’ve made an offer for a player that no longer wants to play for you but if ye don’t want to play ball then fine we’ve plenty more options for the same price”

  223. rico says:

    Afternoon everyone

    London – re your last, I don’t want Kalou one bit, and am hoping its just a spin to get Chamakh – however, we all read the ‘Come and get me plea’ Kalou made to Arsene Wenger in January, and it would not surprise me one little bit it he joins us, it has a cheap Arsene signing written all over it 😦

    But none of us know for sure how much truth is in this, it could be the paps dragging up old news, I know that is hard to believe as it’s very unlike them 😉 😉

  224. Rasputin says:

    It appears that it is the standard ploy to feign interest in another player when the club your trying to buy from overvalues the player you really want to get. It must be a bit soul destroying for the ‘pawns’ in the game.

    I think most clubs will want to complete their purchases by friday week, so hopefully this torture will soon be over…

  225. Rasputin says:

    You did it again rico 😉 🙂 😉

  226. rico says:

    Irish – I reckon spin too, to get Chamakaakkaaakakakak

    As you say they are stuck – he is on his last year, and he has said he will walk for free in the summer if he is not sold. No way will ‘play your cards right’ Brucie make an offer for him now, Blanc has put pay to that…

  227. Irishgunner says:

    “A friend” of Kalou’s has said he is happy at Chelsea and willing to fight for a place. The comment he made about AW was just a general statement and not used to engineer a move.

  228. Irishgunner says:

    Exactly Rico, so I’d say he is 80% on his way here.

  229. Rasputin says:

    That’s a relief 🙄

  230. rico says:

    Do you think I am a bit of a white witch Rasp 😉

    (thats the good witch isn’t it 😉 😉 )

  231. rico says:

    Higher Irish, Higher 😉 😉

  232. Rasputin says:

    I dunno rico, do you wear deer horns and run round naked on the solstice?

    I thought The Wicker man was a great old film with EdwardWoowardwardwoodward … why they had to make that lame modern version with Nicholas Cage I don’t know!

  233. Irishgunner says:


  234. Rasputin says:

    My mate (very rich) lives opposite Robin Gibb in Thame in Oxfordshire. His wife is the head White witch and they live in a 17thC converted monastery

  235. rico says:

    Gosh, I didnt know I was meant to do all that Rasp, best I go shopping for deer horns 😉

    Would you say his name when you have had a few – well woodward you … 😉
    Haven’t seen that one Rasp, but I do quite like Nicholas Cage 🙂

  236. rico says:

    Blimey, thats not far from me Rasp …. I would be too scared to live there 😦

    Irish, deal 😛

    Got to carry on with a few jobs in the garden, whilst the rain has stopped, wont be long I expect 😉

  237. Irishgunner says:

    Veloso been thrown around again, he’s a long time looking for a club.

    I wonder what happened to Stephen Appiah – even Spurs didn’t want him …bless!

  238. avenell says:

    Veloso, haha Jonjon will be getting moist..

  239. rico says:

    It’s bloomin raining so I have had to come back indoors 😦

  240. rico says:

    Appiah is training hard with Veloso Irish 😉

  241. Irishgunner says:

    Ha ha Rico

    I just checked and he still has no club 😯

  242. rico says:

    Lets get him in on a free then Irish 😉

    Did I really just type that 😳

  243. Irishgunner says:

    I think we were going too in January but his fitness levels and wages are a problem for most.

  244. rico says:

    Would he be better than dear old Patrick ?? He has travelled with Meelan, so a move back home is looking less likely 😦

    But on the other hane Toure moved to Citeh whilst we were in Austria… There is hope 😛

  245. Irishgunner says:

    There must be something up with Appiah to say he hasn’t a club because from what I’ve seen of him he’s a good, tough player. Nothing exceptional but he’d be welcome in our midfield against the likes of Bolton and Stoke.

    Where are Inter playing?

  246. rico says:

    I think they are in China – learning to play the triangle 😉

    Does make you wonder about Appiah Irish – he looks a beast ! 🙂

    Got to pop out a play taxi for 30 mins, back shortly

  247. avenell says:

    Their still is doubts over Appiah’s fitness, If he were to come to us on a pay as he plays deal that would suit us. but if he isn’t injured and isn’t picked that would be unfair on Appiah.. So I think he wants more security..
    It’s a shame he is a quality player, and he is banging his career down the drain..

  248. rico says:

    Heloooooooooooo 😛

  249. avenell says:

    I can feel the wind starting to rush into Avenell Road as Jonjon will come on like a bull in a china shop soon..

  250. rico says:

    Know what – I have just read back and I missed a whole bunch of comments 😦

    Thanks guys for looking up the meerkat ad man – i still think its Jose 😉

  251. rico says:

    Hoorah – Come on down JonJon 🙂

    Ave – re Appiah, surely for him it would be better to be with a club like us on a play/pay deal, than to be with no club – he has been out for so long. Arsene is one of a few who take a risk, Bischoff is a perfect example – he didn’t achieve the goals that were set for him, otherwise his contact would have been renewed.

    The way Appiah speaks, he is more than prepared to fight for his career, and if he came to us on that kind of a deal, he seems the kind of guy who has the attitude to prove himself –

    For me – win win 😛

  252. rico says:

    London, before you went last night you wrote some lines about dreaming…..

    So how you gonna make that dream come true ?? 😉

    Happy Talk indeed 😛 😛

  253. rico says:

    And is Fabregas Mr Sensible 😛

  254. JonJon says:

    good evening..

    boy oh boy im beginning to think im special…

    this time last year i said that ade would be sold and fabian delph would be at a PL team in a years time…

    guess what??? its a years time and what had happened???

    god im good…

    whats all this veloso talk…you shouldnt do this to me guys….

    and yeah ave joe cole would be worth 20mil+ when fully fit…if he went to spurs for less than 10 then arrys pulled a bargain…

    lets face it the fa will never condemn arry for tapping up….

    whos gonna take it seriously when the tribunal listens to a case of the league vs spurs on a tapping up charge…

    its spurs…the panel would piss themselves…

  255. rico says:

    Seeing as you miserable lot have found something better in life to do than blogging, I am off to get supper…. 😉 😉

  256. avenell says:

    I’ve only just had lunch.. lol

    jonjon .. But Spurs are a big club.. they are going to have a shiney new stadium..

    spurs – £400 million to build a stadium = relegation.. 🙂

  257. rico says:

    Yo JonJon 🙂

    Dippers and Madrid have agreed a price for Alonso, he is gone subject to a medical….

    Arry pulling a bargin JJ, is that what he pulls 😉 😉

  258. JonJon says:

    hi ave/rico..

    arry couldnt pull in a brothel with a fat wallet..

    spurs are one to watch…they dont even fill their current one on a european night…how the fudge are they gonna fill a new 60k one..???

    thats the dippers screwed then….

    manure and dippers are their for the taking this year…chelsea have a new manager with new tactics…scolari??

    and citeh are in their “still shit shock”

    bring on the new season…really giddy..

  259. rico says:

    Ave, when you are old and retired,

    Breakfast is at 6am
    Lunch at midday
    Dinner at 6pm
    Supper st 9pm
    Snacks and cereal at 10pm, just before retiring to bed 😛

    Wait til next year, you will understand then 😛

  260. avenell says:

    I’m glad you already know.. 😉

  261. avenell says:

    Best thing to do.. eat when you are hungry.. and 7 oclock is beer oclock.. unless Arsenal are playing.. 🙂

  262. Rasputin says:

    Wenger’s reported as saying the Chamakh deal is over – usually when he’s as definitive as that, its not spin, but the truth 😦

  263. avenell says:

    Ahh well.. we will get him in Jan like AK47 half price..

  264. Rasputin says:

    I’ll be sick, sick, sick if the spuds get Huntelaar….

    “Linked heavily with both Arsenal and Tottenham in the Premier League. This prolific Dutch striker could maybe count himself unlucky to fall foul of the new era of ‘Galacticos’ at Real Madrid. His decision on where to ply his trade next season could ultimately widen or close the North London gap. But who exactly is Klaas-Jan Huntelaar? The Transfer Tavern asked Football Fancast Columnist The New Voice of Football to investigate.

    At 25-years of age, Huntelaar should be coming into the peak of his career and now finds himself an outcast at the Bernabeu through no fault of his own. Huntelaar can only do, what Huntelaar does. Score goals and lots of them. 179 of them in 265 career games to date, with the Dutch International’s haul of 105 in 136 games for Ajax securing a £17million move from the Amsterdam Arena in January.

    So the lad must be a bit confused after finding the net 8 times in 20 La Liga clashes to find himself Surplus to requirements in the Spanish capital due to arrivals of Kaka, Cristiano Ronaldo and Karim Benzema in Madrid.

    Huntelaar had been expected to join Bundesliga side Stuttgart, with Real agreeing a fee with the German club and desperate to recoup some of the zillions they have been splashing about this summer. However, no move materialised, with the striker’s wage demands thought to be a stumbling block along with his desire to play in the Premiership.

    This has left the Gunners and Spurs to vie for Huntelaar, with Serie A giants AC Milan also said to hold an interest in the striker as an alternative to Sevilla’s Luis Fabiano, while Huntelaar has also caught the eye of Sir Alex Ferguson in this transfer window.

    Tottenham boss Harry Redknapp said to have made a swoop for the Dutch forward on Tuesday, according to reports in Spain. After finally offloading Darren Bent to Sunderland earlier this week. Confirming his initial vocal interest from a week ago, when asked about the Los Blancos striker.”

  265. Rasputin says:

    That would be ironic ave – just in time to bugger off for the ACN … and maybe get injured 😦

  266. avenell says:

    If that is the case rasp.. his value is virtually zero in january.. I would think Bourdeux (If that’s right) will be starting to panic to get rid of him..

    Perhaps a phone call on Aug 28th to Arsene.. “er do you still want him?”

  267. peachesgooner says:

    Evening all

    Kalou is a skinny little runt – if he becomes a gooner I will shout his name with pride but until then……..

    I thought Huntelaar was going to AC MIlan – all this going to work is no good for me – I don’t know whats going on 😦

  268. peachesgooner says:

    oooh avenell – how are you?

    Hi rasp 😛

  269. avenell says:

    Yeah okay thanks.. how’s your back?

  270. Rasputin says:

    Evening peaches,

    The transfer market is like a game of chess but with about 15 people playing at the moment. We wanted Nasri and went out and signed him – same with Vermaelen. That was probably helped by the fact that no other clubs were seriously interested in them. For some reason, we didn’t have much competition for AA – I bet a few of the bigger clubs are regretting that…. Huntelaar has quite a few after his signature so our chances are seriously diminished.

  271. peachesgooner says:

    My backs fine although I did give my boys a laugh by jumping onto a spade that recoiled in the ground and threw me backwards narrowly missing a mathook that would have made a neat incision in my head !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

    My feet and my legs are aching too – poor me, I must say a little tlc would be lovely….. 🙂

  272. avenell says:

    You need some Tiger Balm.. rubbed in.. Is that the stuff Rasp?

  273. Rasputin says:

    I’m not an expert on herbal remedies ave …. a couple of glasses of fine Merlot served at blood temperature will do the trick I’m sure 😉

  274. avenell says:

    That’s what an old Kung Fu mate of mine would use..

    He also tried a few beers out too.. 🙂

  275. London says:

    “Still shit shock” makes me howl every time I see it.

  276. Rasputin says:

    You must be a “Werewolf in London” 😛

  277. peachesgooner says:

    Hmmnnnnn – TLC DIY style then…. 😀

  278. London says:

    That’s funny Rasp. I have been looking for a more friendly name, what about Wolfy

  279. Rasputin says:

    As in ‘Citizen Smith’ – power to the people!!

  280. rico says:

    Guys – sorry not to have been on this evening but…. its boring 😉 , and now I have to go, take care all and stay safe – nighty night

  281. Rasputin says:

    Hope you’re OK rico … nite nite, sleep well

  282. avenell says:

    The little old lady called him ‘Foxy’.. Not rico.. She wouldn’t like it.. the one on Citizen Smith.. 😉

  283. avenell says:

    Goodnite Rico .. x

  284. London says:

    I seem to remember that Ave used a picture of Citizen Smith in one of his head line posts

  285. rico says:

    I booked my computer off and then thought about what I had written, so I have booked on again to say….

    I didn’t mean blogging was boring, I meant my night was a boring story 😳

    Now I am off again…

    Power to the People 😛

    Nighty night

  286. rico says:


    To You All 😛

  287. London says:

    I think we are building up a nice little rivalry here between us and City

  288. avenell says:

    Gabriel Mybotty hasn’t heard of the Man City still shit

  289. avenell says:

    Jonjon has lost his internet connection by the way.. 😦

  290. Rasputin says:

    Shame – it would be better if they concentrated on winding up manure … I am looking forward to playing citeh and shutting them up ……

  291. avenell says:

    They have had such a good pre season. they should be confident..

  292. London says:

    We only have to wait until the 12th September. I suspect that we will be better prepared than they will.

  293. avenell says:

    The Man City linesman is getting his shoulder muscle ready for the Togo Tosser.. ..

  294. London says:

    Who ever writes the match report is going to revel in writing the headline “City in still shit shock”

  295. avenell says:

    Gerald Sinstadt is going to get fed up saying

    “A long diagonal ball from Toure, but Adebayor has just strayed offside” again.. lol

  296. London says:

    Alonso is gone then. I hope Gerrard doesn’t get injured, that would really affect their chances

  297. avenell says:

    They done well out of Alonso though.. The extra from the sale can pay some of the interest on the debt that they got into building a new stadium.. or was it on buying crap players?
    haha walk on!

  298. avenell says:

    But Benitez is a great tactician.. coz he can hold a notepad..

  299. JonJon says:

    evening all… 😉

    their best midfielder has naffed off…

    so that leaves them with two good players in a shit side.

    liverpool will drop out of the top 4

    im loving watching SSN…all the dipper fans are saying now they have 30 mil they can go get villa and silva…


  300. avenell says:

    They have already spunked £18 mill of it on that tosser from Pompey..

  301. avenell says:

    Wouldn’t it be funny if Liverpool, Chelski and Man U all drop out the top 4.. I wonder what the bookies would give you..

  302. JonJon says:

    im having some of that ave….

    a cheeky 5er..the odds would be awesome…

  303. avenell says:

    That’s what I thought, as I was typing it..

  304. JonJon says:

    you never know mate…

    i having a 20 on us for the league…

  305. Rasputin says:

    Evening JonJon,

    I could never bet on us … its one of my many superstitions…..

    I’m sure at least one of the other 3 from the top 4 is going to finish outside the top 4 … if you see what I mean 😛

  306. peachesgooner says:

    Morning all

    Just a checkin in with a quick hello before I go digging as least its not raining this morning 😛

    Living where I do I obviously know lots of gooners who don’t even look at the blogs let alone get involved and its interesting to hear their views on whats going on – I’ll share some with you later, if I can stay awake 🙂

    Have a lovely day all xx

  307. rico says:

    Morning all, sorry to have missed you peaches, have a good day and dodge the rain spots 😉

    Off to have a look around for some exciting news 😉

  308. Rasputin says:

    Morning Roadsters and Roosters,

    Hi-de-hi rico 😛

    Looks like Arsene’s played his trunp card on Chamakh …. “take our offer now or we’ll have him on a free in a year”. I’ve felt for a while that Chamakh and Matuidi are his preferred targets. I don’t mind seeing big Phil go if Song is going to feature as CB when needed – hopefully Matuidi will be the missing link in the midfield.

  309. rico says:

    VDS could be out for three weeks due to an operation on his hand – oh dear Manure, that will not be good for you 😉

  310. rico says:

    Ho-de-Ho Rasp 😛

  311. rico says:

    Rasp – he is being a little tinker, and I think Blanc will give in and they will agree a price real soon..

    I thought Matuidi was done and dusted, but it’s all gone quiet on him 😦

  312. Rasputin says:

    What do we think about Bassong as defensive cover? Shearer listed him as a must keep player so he is rated at Toon

  313. London says:

    Morning all

    I have just noticed that the Everton game is live on ESPN does anyone know how we get that? Do we have to pay a subscription in the same way as we did with Setanta?

  314. London says:

    The problem that Bassong would have if he came to the THOF is that he could easily find himself sitting on the bench, apart from the CC, until Christmas. Would that proposition really be that attractive to him?

  315. Rasputin says:

    I agree London … but that also seems to be the case with a lot of our ‘talented midfielders’ – unless AW is really going for squad rotation. It requires great team spirit and cohesion in the dressing room for players to be happy spending time on the bench.

  316. rico says:

    Morning London – ESPN is part of the SS package at the moment, I believe its soon to be announced how the ‘old setanta’ games are to be costed..

    I would prefer Taylor, but also wouldn’t say no to Bassong – we have so many games I think it would be good to have either. Either would jump at the chance to get out of the Champoinship and if they have the right attitude and show from their first game what they are made of, I can’t see Arsene just leaving them on the bench. Gallas worries me, he is getting older if he doesn’t have a player breathing down his neck he may just get into a ‘comfort zone’ – and that’s when we will leak goals

  317. Rasputin says:

    I’d rather have Taylor playing for us than against us rico 😉 But there has never been a murmur linking us to him so I guess that’s a non-starter…

  318. rico says:

    You just never know though Rasp – all the rumours lead to is …. nowhere 😉

    No news may just be some good news 😛

    Taylor is an animal, but he is really strong in the air, just what we lack …

  319. Rasputin says:

    I’d like a few more ‘animals’ in the side rico, Song won most of the defensive headers against corners and free kicks in the EC. I watched the defenders closely and they man mark at set pieces, which is very difficult when players are onrushing and doesn’t give our smaller players a chance to get into the air to defend – so in that scenario, being 6ft plus is a definite benefit.

  320. rico says:

    Another option for CH

    Arsene needs to go and look at the Championship sides who just missed out on promotion, look at goals conceded and other stuff like that and pick the best CH out of those teams then make an offer.

    That player would dream of playing in the EPL and would be ok playing from the bench or CC/FA Cup, then next season when Willy walks, we could just have his replacement 😛

  321. Rasputin says:

    Nice idea rico, we’ve got a couple of hench CB’s coming through with the reserves, and also Harvaard – although its all gone pretty quiet on him!

  322. London says:

    Morning Rasp

    In an attempt to answer your question I wrote 700 words and still hadn’t finished so I may try and put it into a head line post.

  323. rico says:

    What we miss Rasp is Sol Campbell 😉

    I know TV has a good write up, but another very under tall defender, like you say, we need a tall monster in there

  324. Irishgunner says:

    Morning all,

    See the papers are getting bored again “Cesc to Milan” BORING!!!!!!!!! That place is a sinking ship.

  325. rico says:

    London, I thought is was us women who were supposed to go on and on 😉

  326. rico says:

    Morning Irish – boring Meeelan indeed…

    Rasp, you threw me there 😉 I haven’t heard anything about him recently either, but he is very light weight 😦

  327. Irishgunner says:

    Morning Rico

    Who is lightweight?

  328. rico says:

    Gibbs has been given No 28, once of Toure and Bischoff 🙂

  329. rico says:

    Havard Nordveit Irish

  330. Irishgunner says:

    he’ll be playing bundesliga next season, that’ll beef him up 🙂

  331. Rasputin says:

    Hi London, Irish – not the rugby team 😉

    Look forward to reading your post London.

    I’m sorry, but i have to dash out on an errand. Hope to chat with you over the hot news in an hour or two.

  332. rico says:

    Is he definately off there Irish ?

  333. Irishgunner says:

    He’s with Nurnberg for the season, isn’t he?

  334. rico says:

    I don’t know Irish …

  335. Irishgunner says:

    Arsenal loan defender Havard Nordtveit to Nurnberg/ Transfer news28/07/2009
    Arsenal have loaned their highly-rated Norwegian defender Havard Nordtveit to Bundesliga side Nurnberg for the duration of the 2009/2010 campaign.

    The 19-year-old centre back is contracted to Arsenal until the end of the 2010/2011 season and has spent the last few months at Norwegian side Lillestrom.

    Nordtveit has played 17 games for Lillestrom, including the 2-1 defeat to Rosenborg last Sunday. Earlier this season, the 6.2ft defender played three games for UD Salamanaca in the Spanish Segunda Division.

    Last week Nordtveit said on the rumoured move to the Bundesliga: “German football would of course be a tremendous challenge for me… I know that Arsenal will make the right decision which is best for me and my career.

  336. Anonymous says:

    Ah, in that case Irish, Beef Up he will 😛

  337. rico says:

    Oh, I suddenly became a mouse 😉

    I have to go for a few hours, catch you all later,

    Chamakh signed later, I feel lucky 😉

  338. Irishgunner says:

    Who’s Anonymous??

    My mama said don’t talk to strangers 😆

  339. Irishgunner says:

    Joe Kinnear said he has been offered the Newcastle job. Its bad for your heart Joe…

  340. avenell says:

    Morning Roadsters.. er afternoon.. 😦

    Not a good career move that Irish, I wanted to see Shearer fail properly.. After his comments on MOTD about Big Tone..

  341. Irishgunner says:

    Hiya Avenell,

    Shearer will be back on the couch talking sh1te for another season.

  342. avenell says:

    What time is Cesc doing his I am not leaving speach on today?..

    £30 million hahaha.

  343. Irishgunner says:

    4pm 😉

    How insulting – £30mil, Berbatov cost £30mil.

    Anyways, Cesc is too young for Meelan.

  344. avenell says:

    I get the feeling that one day Cesc will commit his career to Arsenal.. As long as he is one of the best paid and we still want him.

    Bentley £18 mill in last years market.. Cesc £30 mill in this years inflated

  345. rico says:

    Afternoon everyone, I have finished my cabin for the logs, the only problem is, its too heavy to move 😦

    No news then 😦

  346. JonJon says:

    hiya everyone..

    slow news day today..???

    thank god…i hate any news concerning arsenal…why cant they leave us alone like this all the time its so much more fun being a supporter this way…

    i cant beleive real madrid have bought alonso for 30mil and not made a move for denilson instead…

    im glad of rejected 30mil for the best midfielder in the league…

  347. JonJon says:

    i dont really want jack in the team next season if im honest….

    those ball skills and that technique and ability and vision and control and creativity and telepathy with cesc dont mean a thing because he is a small child…

    i want theo instead because theo runs really really quickly and eboue coshe makes the dressing room laugh and practices dance moves in training instead of tactics….

    those two are much better for the way we play i feel….jacks inability to dance like a chicken and his inability to confuse the opposition by running into dead ends at pace should mean he has to sit on the bench next season…

  348. avenell says:

    I hope Rangers give Man City a hammering tonight.. haha

    Evening guys..

  349. JonJon says:

    hey up ave….

    mate that would be funny….

    we should have a “still shit shock” widget and put all their defeats in there..

  350. Rasputin says:

    Evening all,

    Pool’s transfer policy seems to be the opposite end of the scale to our own. Sell a player only when they have a ready-made replacement and sign them the same day the player leaves….

  351. JonJon says:

    who is this aquilini bloke though rasp….

    roma werent exactley setting the world alight last season and that fella isnt even their best midfielder…


    id of been upset if it was de rossi they got but its just like the equivilent of someone giving us 20mil for denilson…

    besides that aquilini bloke is always injured…

    and pool dont have a stadium to pay for or a wage structure to keep in tact…

    17milfor johnson
    20mil for aquilini
    18mil for mascherano
    20mil for keane..

    id rather have the policy we have at the minute then spend that type of cash on those type of players…

  352. JonJon says:

    sagnas better than johnson
    cescs better than aqua
    song was as good as masch when we played them
    id rather have any of our stikers over keane

    the only player the dippers have got value for is torres…

    but to spend 100 mil on players and only have one star player out of the lot is a bad return…

  353. chaf says:

    Good evening everyone just passing through.

    Isn’t it funny that although everyone has a secret name I got quite put out that someone’s called ‘anonymous’. Thats not playing the game I thought, haven’t they got a name?…

    I have been watching the press Jack up, and when he’s a top player they will let the Jack down slowly…

    Good evening…

  354. JonJon says:

    hey chaf…

    at least weve got some positive attention for a change…

    we should make the most of it…

    although i find it quite ironic that we have an apparent lack of height..which i do agree with…

    but englands next big thing is two foot and a tab end..

    mmmmm…rather contradictory me thinks..

  355. chaf says:

    He’s like a No.6 in a packet of Benson and Hedges. And they used to cut through..

  356. JonJon says:

    do you reckon hes a first teamer next year chaf????

    i think he should be…give him at least 20 games…

  357. chaf says:

    Must say, as nobody is about, I really enjoyed the games at the weekend, albeit friendlies. I still say, plug the gap where the goals are going in and we can go the rest….

  358. Rasputin says:

    Does anyone know if there’s any truth in this….

    “Arsenal midfielder Tomas Rosicky could be out for up to ‘5 to 6 weeks’, after the Czech international reportedly sustained a hamstring injury in training this morning.

    According to radio station talkSPORT, Rosicky – who only recently returned from a long-term injury – will be missing for almost two months with the Arsenal press office revealing that the injury is currently being assessed.”

    I maintain that pools policy of lose a player/replace a player is insurance against th effect injuries can have on a squad … if we haven’t learned that by now we never will……

  359. JonJon says:

    pardon my french but FFS

    according to reports rosicky has been injured in training…. 2 months out at least… 😦

  360. Rasputin says:

    Past experience has shown that most players who return from long term injury will pick up subsequent injuries for the next 1-2 years. It happened with Diaby and Dudu … it comes as no surprise that Tomas has suffered similarly.

  361. chaf says:

    JJ – Jack has got to be in, until he runs out of steam –

    Rasp – I really hope you’re wrong, but Rosicky is the type of player that goes full steam ahead on everything he does, so it is believable.

  362. Rasputin says:

    Me too chaf … its taken from a report on NN – so who knows?

  363. chaf says:

    I was really looking forward to a season with Thomas the Tank in midfield with the Fab controller pulling the strings….

  364. JonJon says:

    if its true then we have to replace him…

    nasri is also out and the signs are there from last year….

    without nasri and tomas it leaves jack and AA as the only widemen who can play wengerball…and wenger is reluctant to play jack…

    im sick of diaby and eboue…

    its sad about tomas but we have to think about the club first…we need to replace him..

    a CM and AM are the new priorities….

  365. chaf says:

    Sorry Mozart – Tomas the tank and the Fab controller….

  366. JonJon says:

    oh shit rasp…


  367. Rasputin says:

    The deja vu is sickening … before the season has even started.

    I don’t apologise for predicting this, we need depth and quality in the squad … same deficiency as last year…..

  368. Rasputin says:

    There have still been no other reports of this injury .. let’s hope its a hoax….

  369. JonJon says:

    its a big blow…a really big blow..

    well at least it puts an end to the ‘we have a new player’ sentance…

    we dont..hes an old player whos always injured…

    we need a new player…

    a real new player….

  370. Rasputin says:

    Did anyone see Paul Merson’s interview on Sky? He thinks we should try to get Vieira back .. but I don’t think its going to happen.

  371. JonJon says:

    yea rasp…

    lets hope its a hoax but with his track record its looking 70/30

  372. Rasputin says:

    I’m going out for a bit … to calm down ……catch up later …..

  373. chaf says:

    Bit doom and gloom chaps – Lets hear it from the horses mouth first..

    I feel good about this season actually, get the injuries out of the way… our team is a year older..

  374. chaf says:

    But so am I. Thers the doom and gloom (for me)

  375. chaf says:

    Parallel worlds collide

  376. chaf says:

    Parallel worlds collide…

  377. London says:

    Hi Chaf

    Where are you watching the game on Saturday?

  378. avenell says:

    Man city in still shit shock.. 1-0 down lol.

  379. London says:


    Was it you who brought the news about Rosicky? Perhaps if you deleted that comment it would all go away.

  380. chaf says:

    Hi mate

    Whats it on, and what time… I am busy throughout the day, but theres a bit of a do on in the evening if you’re around and it doesn’t clash.

  381. avenell says:

    Evening Chaf. London. Rasp.

    Nothing on SSN about Rosicky.. wind up I think…

  382. London says:

    The game starts at 8:30. What’s going on?

  383. chaf says:

    No it was Rasp and I think he’s gone away ….. Come back rasp and delete the comment instead

  384. JonJon says:

    laters rasp….

    im still confident chaf….

    i just dont want to go into the new season with the same mistakes as last year…

    selling ade was all i really wanted this summer….

    i got my wish so im happy…

    i think we still need new players but we’ll be closer than last year..

    i got a bet on us for the league.. 😉

  385. London says:

    Come to think about it, why would Rosicky be in the Czech Republic this early before their friendly?

  386. chaf says:

    KM doing full on soul funk – all in ‘Arkley Golf Club’! But all in attendance – (attend – dance) !! Actually on paper it doesn’t work…

  387. London says:


    Who is having the do on Saturday?

  388. JonJon says:

    toure gifts goal to rangers in still shit shock episode 3… lol

  389. London says:


    You have got to see this blog. The title made me wet myself with laughter but it’s the headline that has cracked everyone else up “City in still shit shock” it is funny.

  390. avenell says:

    He was at members day yesterday running around..

  391. London says:

    This is one of those situations that until it appears on the official web site I am not going to believe it. I am going to walk around with my fingers in my ears saying lalalalalalalalalalalalalalala

  392. avenell says:

    Sounds like someone phoned up talk shite.. no one else has the story..

  393. London says:


  394. London says:

    I have my fingers in my ears, I can’t hear so it isn’t true lalalalalalalalalalalalaa

  395. chaf says:


    Its my cousin Lennie and his ‘Self employed traders night’!! You qualify.. But its all Brecker Bros and D Sanborn.

  396. London says:

    Ohhh I do like that music.

  397. Rasputin says:

    Here’s one it looks like we’ve definitely missed out on…..

    “AC Milan will complete the signing of Real Madrid striker Klaas-Jan Huntelaar on Thursday, according to reports in Italy.”

    Whatever the truth of the report, we shouldn’t expect Tomas to be able to stay fit all season, the chance of picking up minor/mid term injuries is high

  398. JonJon says:

    what a goal

    city in still shit shock.. lol

  399. avenell says:

    We’ll have to shorten it.. my keyboard won’t make it until christmas..


  400. avenell says:

    Man City have just lost.. lol. CISSS

  401. avenell says:

    Will Hughes make it until the start of the season??

  402. JonJon says:

    what score was it????

  403. Rasputin says:

    3:2 Rangers … we beat them 3:0 at a stroll… hahahaha

  404. JonJon says:

    i watched it up until rangers scored that lob to make it 2 all..
    good goal.
    mancity looked all over the shop…they cant defend and they cant create…
    hahahaha…bring em on

  405. rico says:

    Morning Everyone…

    Old Arry doesn’t hang around does he, Bassong has paased his medical and his move should be finalised later today….

  406. rico says:

    Sky Sports – can you believe that they are comparing the meerkat advert voice to our very own Audrey Arshavin !! 😦

    The anonymous comment yesterday was me, before I realised wordpress had logged me off 😦

  407. rico says:

    The Daily Mail say

    Arsenal are set to make an improved £7.5million bid for Bordeaux striker Marouane Chamakh.
    The French club felt the original £6m was ridiculous for a player they valued at £15m, but the Gunners have played hardball on player who is out of contract next summer.
    Bordeaux are now desperate to do a deal after conceding that Chamakh will not sign a new contract and they are aware that the 25-year-old has his heart set on north London despite competing interest from Sunderland and Blackburn Rovers.

    The Ligue 1 champions’ president Jean-Louis Triaud said on Wednesday challenged Arsenal to raise their bid, but Arsene Wenger’s men are still short of a revised £10m price-tag.
    Adios Madrid: Real striker Klaas-Jan Huntelaar
    Wenger is using interest in Chelsea forward Salomon Kalou to show that he is prepared to walk away from a bid to sign Chamakh.
    Kalou, 24, has a year left on his Stamford Bridge contract and is thought to be available for about £8m.
    Real Madrid special adviser Zinedine Zidane has also told journalists that Arsenal bid £17m for Klaas-Jan Huntelaar, but the Holland striker, also a target for Tottenham Hotspur, is closing in on a move to AC Milan.
    Wenger has threatened to wait for Morocco international Chamakh, who could earn a massive pay rise on his current £16,000 a week if he sits out the final year of his contract.
    Spurs and Fulham have also previously shown interest in Chamakh.

  408. rico says:

    Is the Rosicky sicky rumour true ??

  409. rico says:

    You guys are all busy I guess, or in bed if your name is ave! 😉

    Off for a while, but will be back if any exciting news breaks..

    See you all later

  410. London says:

    Morning Rico

    I have often been quite sympathetic towards the official site when it has come under attack from certain bloggs, arguing that it would be completely impractical to have it manned 24 hours a day in an attempt to deal with this rumour or that and if that were to happen then it would have to be paid for by increased ticket prices, something that would not make me very happy. But, it is now 10 o’clock and the rumour that one of the key players is possibly out for 6 weeks surely deserves some attention.

  411. avenell says:

    Morning Rico..

    Their is another from anon in pending.. I am sure that one wasn’t you..

    The Rosicky stories are all from a so called text message from Lewin to Wrighty on talkshite yesterday afternoon and everyone is using that as the base for the story..
    I don’t think Arsenal will be chuffed with Lewin and he won’t be too chuffed with Wrighty if he gets into trouble over it..

  412. London says:

    Morning Ave

    It seems a bit odd that Lewin would text Wrighty. If this story were true it would be all over the Czech press; they would be as upset about his injury as we would, especially as they have an international game coming up. So where are all the Czech speaking Arsenal fans when you need them?

  413. avenell says:

    Morning London.. It has also been said somewhere else from Rico’s mate. So I don’t really know.
    Injuries are only ever put on Arsenal.con when Wenger has given a press conference.

  414. rico says:

    Morning London & Ave

    No that pending comment is certainly not me ave 😉

    Re the AFC website, I agree it gets some unjustified critism, but on such a big issue it should have been updated to either confirm or deny the Rosicky story.

    The site is always the last to update us on new signings too….. oh, is that because there hasn’t been any 😛

  415. rico says:

    I think he is doing a press conference later ave, so maybe we will find out more, also, it may just be a rumour to stop him being being selected for the Czech side.

  416. avenell says:

    That’s possible but it isn’t something to lie about.. a swollen ankle would be better..

    If you think arse.con are bad look at Rosicky’s own page.. all that time on his hands he could have sorted it ..

  417. rico says:

    Got to pop out, see you later

  418. Rasputin says:

    Morning roadsters,

    The spuds and pool are both more decisive on the transfer market than we are. If we offered £17m for Huntelaar, then that’s a good offer and if they chose not to accept it then that’s fair enough.

    The mail (bunch of lying hacks) are also reporting that Tomas is injured………

  419. Irishgunner says:

    “Oh, Oh we’re in trouble”……….

    No Nasri, no Rosicky, no new center back, no new midfielder, no trophy!

  420. Rasputin says:

    Who knows if we’re in trouble Irish?
    Who knows if Arsene has the money from sales in his warchest?
    Who knows if he’s still obsessed with project youth?
    Who knows if he actually believes we need a tall CB
    Who knows if he actually is only going to sign a midfielder?

    He admitted in an interview yesterday that a lack of height was an issue for set pieces, but everyone says we want to play like Barcelona so height is irrelevant .. who knows?

  421. Irishgunner says:

    “Who knows if we’re in trouble Irish?” – If we start the season with the squad as it is with no more comings and goings and the injuries as stated we are in trouble.

    Its a very hard start and the draw for the Champions League is tomorrow, we could get a right pickle of a team.

    “Who knows if Arsene has the money from sales in his warchest?” – Surely out of the £50mil he has at least £20mil to spend? Matuidi is only priced at £2mil.

    We were told players had to leave for new ones to come in, well the players have left.

    “Who knows if he’s still obsessed with project youth?” – Arsene Knows 😉

    ” Who knows if he actually believes we need a tall CB?” – Reports suggest we had a bid turned down for a 6ft 5 Argentine CB at Seville – why bid if we don’t need him?

    ” Who knows if he actually is only going to sign a midfielder?” – Arsene Knows 😉

    Barcelona still have height in Pique and Toure at the back.

  422. Rasputin says:

    Sounds like you know Irish 😆

    I was expecting someone to come back with simply ‘Arsene knows’ – but your reply was far more educated … thanks…

    I have been worried since before the injuries. Its not because of our history of buying/selling over last season only … the season before wasn’t exactly great.

    I’m not talking about whether the money is there or not because I will always counter that with the ‘speculate to accumulate’ argument. At the Emirates cup, almost every other shirt had Arshavin on the back. He must have earned us a fortune in shirt sales alone. Trophies and stars earn the club money. I think we are far too conservative……

  423. Irishgunner says:

    I’m just getting a bit worried Rasputin.

    I still just think its a matter of 2 players – both defensive.

    If we can keep it tight at the back and pressure high up the field the goals will come.

    Losing Rosicky and Nasri at the same time is a massive blow but I think we can compensate for it.

    Buying this Chamackh guy mightn’t be such a bad thing with the above mentioned injuries. Stick him out on the wing – apparently he can do everything but score and nothing hints that he has to play centrally.

    His mission can be “get the ball to Eduardo/ Van Persie/ Arshavin who’ll find the net”.

  424. gnarleygeorge9 says:

    It was a good weekend for the good guys. & we intend to equalise in Leeds 😆

  425. Irishgunner says:

    We will get one of these:

    FC Timisoara (ROM)
    Anderlecht (BEL)
    Celtic (SCO)
    Fiorentina (ITA)
    Atletico Madrid (SPA)

  426. Irishgunner says:

    Hiya Gnarley – Is this Ashes thing still going on???

  427. Rasputin says:

    Hi GG – this is a football site 😉 …. as with Arsenal, England have a new player just back from injury … Freddie Flintoff 🙄

  428. avenell says:

    Morning Rasp.. Irish.

    I would rather us be a bit cautious in the transfer market than waste money on knee jerk signings..

    Arsh cost less than Bentley.. Eduardo was half the price of Bent, Sagna a third of the price of Johnson..

    I tried to say it in a post but just because they didn’t come in on a large fee, doesn’t make them worse players.
    We have top quality players to rival any team in the world..
    That Rangers v Man City game last night sort of proved a point, I reckon with all the money they spent they would have trouble beating our reserve side, we play to a system and that works.. When a player leaves he rarly looks any good because he steps outof that system.. thierry being an exception but then again Barca play similar to us..

  429. avenell says:

    Morning Gnarley .. I was typing and missed ya..

  430. Irishgunner says:

    Morning Avenell,

    Its not really knee jerk, we’ve had defensive problems for a few seasons now – since Campbell left really. AW really doesn’t have all the time in the world to sort this out.

  431. Rasputin says:

    Hi ave,

    I’m not asking for knee jerk signings – that’s never gonna happen and I wouldn’t want it to. You’ve listed the players we’ve managed to sign via our last out for the cheapest price policy, we don’t know how many quality (and I stress the word quality) players we’ve missed out on by adopting that same policy. Alonso could be a prime example – but then again not 😉

  432. Rasputin says:


    If the injuries are confirmed, I expect to see Song and Denilson in midfield … do you think that constitutes players to rival any team in the world?

  433. Irishgunner says:

    I’ve fished around and there still hasn’t be a good source apart from Ian Wright’s text message to say Rosicky is injured.

    By the by is Lewin still working for Arsenal? I thought that there was a new Irish Doctor?

  434. avenell says:

    Irish. I think Colin took Gary’s place and they got a assistant in from Peterborough or somewhere. I don’t know if he is Irish..

    I think our strongest position is CH and our problems lay in the fact that the full backs are always attacking and even the great John Terry would be of no use. For every action there is a reaction.. I think we need to defend as a team more and a CM who can get back and cover when our attacking full back is out of position..

    We used to cover the full backs by the wide midfielders dropping back and taking there place but Theo for instance is not very good at this.

  435. Irishgunner says:

    There is a new Irish medic anyway because Arsenal took him for the Irish rugby set up:

    He replaced Ian Beasley.

    I may be in the minority but I don’t think John Terry is a “great” player. He is a very good player but I think his main strengths are organisation and bravery as opposed to skill.

  436. Irishgunner says:

    Cesc in Spain’s squad for friendly on Wednesday.

  437. avenell says:

    So when are we playing Valencia?.. I thought that was next week..

  438. Irishgunner says:

    That’s Saturday

  439. avenell says:

    I haven’t read one comment yet about rosicky being injured where the commentor feels sorry for the player.. If he is injured again after coming so close he must be gutted..
    Yet if you boo a player for being lazy and crap, it is like the worse crime in the world.

  440. avenell says:

    Cheers.. I cannot believe it is the 6th today.. summers nearly over.. 😦

  441. Irishgunner says:

    Is it certain he is injured? The website was pretty quick in declaring that Nasri was injured.

  442. avenell says:

    I don’t know I should have put my ‘if’ in upper case..

  443. Irishgunner says:

    I’m going to football in 6 days – yipee 😀

    C’mon you boys in Green!!

    It’d be terrible if Tim Cahill got injured, wouldn’t it 😉

  444. avenell says:

    Just for the odd game.. 🙂

    I am guessing Ireland take on the Aussies.. Is that near you?

  445. Irishgunner says:

    Yep thats it.

    Its on in Thomond Park Limerick, first international to be played in Limerick and I have my ticket 😀

  446. avenell says:

    I delivered the Balloons To Stanstead Airport for the Ireland world cup 94′ homecoming celebrations .. I have done my bit for Irish football.. lol..

  447. Irishgunner says:


    I loved USA 94, that was great craic.

    So was Japan and Korea – Irish people were never in the pub so early of a Sunday. Been beaten by Spain on penalties was crushing 😦

    Anyways, onwards and upwards to South Africa next summer.

    Oh, Liam Brady will be there, I’ll shout at him to bring his football boots to all Arsenal games next season, just in case we need him 😉

  448. Irishgunner says:

    “City boss Mark Hughes has already snapped up Carlos Tevez, Emmanuel Adebayor, Gareth Barry and now Joleon Lescott in a £100m spending spree that has stunned the game.”

    Tevez = hardly Ronaldo

    Adebayor = ha ha ha

    Barry = Hardly Alonso or Fabregas

    Lescott = Jagelika is the better player but injury prone

    Hardly setting the world on fire – YAWN

    They have a good squad of decent players but hardly exceptional. Toure has been found out already.

  449. Irishgunner says:

    Huntelarr confirmed at Milan for €15mil about £12mil I think

  450. avenell says:

    We don’t need him we have Nikki B.. 🙂

  451. Irishgunner says:

    Zidane’s advisor said Arsenal bid €17mil for him 😕

  452. Irishgunner says:

  453. rico says:

    Hi all, just passing through

    ESPN footie channel taking over from Setanta is channel 417 on sky and is £9 monthly – upgrades to this can be done online at or ESPN..

    The channel is in additon and different to the current ESPN channel that is shown, catch you all shortly

  454. gnarleygeorge9 says:

    I think the gooners are in a bit of strife, but don’t tell anyone I said that. I’ll be back later to fill you all in 😉

  455. London says:

    Well, I have worked out what I think is happening with Rosicky: he has got a Walcott injury, one of those that keeps a player out of the national side but doesn’t stop him playing for his club, the mancs have them all the time. There will be an announcement on the official site soon declaring that Rosicky is not as badly injured as was first feared.

  456. Irishgunner says:

    Gooner Talk claim they rang Arsenal and they confirmed that Tomas is injured but wouldn’t say anymore while the Czech coach said he heard it was a muscle injury.

    A week long injury would be good 🙂 He can train behind closed doors.

  457. avenell says:

    London.. Rico said that earlier.. she is like Mrs Marples..

    Right down to the split screen moggie minor.. 😉

  458. Irishgunner says:

    Actually it doesn’t make sense, surely Rosicky would have got “injured” during the Valencia match as AW would want to get him as much match time as possible under his watch.

    He probably is actually injured 😦

  459. avenell says:

    Toure has been chatting.. The bit about him and Adebayor being like brothers, could that be part of the dressing room rift?..

  460. avenell says:

    Ade and Kolo.. v Pinkie and Gallas..

  461. London says:

    Afternoon Irish

    I can see the flaws in my conspiracy theory but it still seems more credible to me than Gooner talk just phoning up and amazingly getting conformation. Gooner talk will be trying to tell us next that they spoke to Arsene himself lol

  462. Irishgunner says:

    Afternoon London,

    Ha ha I get what you are saying.

    I thought the club would have said something official by now though.

  463. London says:


    I am not that surprised that we haven’t heard anything from the official site; they are notoriously slow but I don’t understand why we haven’t had news drifting back from the press of the Czech Republic.

  464. Irishgunner says:

    Yep London, its all a bit eerily quite.

    Apart from a few blogs and some crap newspapers there is nothing been said about it and those that do “understand” he is injured as opposed to “know” he is injured.

  465. Rasputin says:

    Ian Wright mentioned it on TalkSport
    The Sun (his employers) picked it up
    Czech coach Ivan Hasek appears to confirm it
    GoonerTalk say Arsenal’s Press Office have confirmed it……Ivan Hasek said: “We hoped he would come (to play against Belgium). We have no detailed information about the injury. It was clear that after such a long time minor muscle injuries have to come.”

    “I don’t know the diagnosis and it’s hard for me to judge if he would be able to help us against Slovakia. But muscle injuries take at least three weeks. It’s tough for him. But compared with the previous serious injury, this is a minor thing.”

  466. London says:

    I’m looking forward to watching Walcott play this weekend. The formation has changed, it should be interesting to see how he adapts.

  467. London says:

    Is there any way we can find out the dates of the Czech/Belgium and Czech/Slavinia games? I’m sure this would help work out what is going on.

  468. Irishgunner says:

    What is a “muscle injury” though Rasp – that’s very vague, it doesn’t say its his hamstring.

    Walcott through the middle?

  469. Irishgunner says:

    Belguim = 12th August Friendly

    Slovakia = 5th Sept

    San Marino = 9th Sept

  470. Rasputin says:

    I agree Irish … the whole story is cloaked in secrecy it appears. I’m beginning to think that the 5-6 weeks is untrue … otherwise the club would have said something …… unless they don’t want us to appear desperate to stop the price of Matuidi becoming inflated

  471. London says:

    Rosicky is as imprortant to the Czech team as Gerrard is to England and both generate the same amount of press in their respective countries. So, why isn’t this all over the Czech press?

  472. Rasputin says:

    For all you experts on the financial side … I imagine this is good news …

    Islington Council has finally approved plans submitted by Arsenal Football Club for a new sports facility on Queensland Road in Holloway, London.

    Arsenal Sports Centre, which will accommodate educational and social-inclusion community programmes to local residents for at least 52 hours a week, will include the development of an affordable housing complex with a play space for children living in the new flats.

    Arsenal director Ken Friar said: “This decision means that we can now start work on the development of 700 new homes, half of which will be new affordable homes, and the Arsenal Sports Centre.

  473. London says:

    I don’t understand why there is a hold up with the Matuidi deal if that is what is planned. It’s not as if there are other clubs beating a path to sign him?

  474. avenell says:

    Rasp.. I think that was part of the deal for the new stadium.. we had to put back into the community..

    London.. Wrighty has been getting a lot of publicity for a crap radio show..

  475. London says:

    With the Czech/Belguim game on the 12th August, this has got the hall mark of a Walcott injury all over it.

  476. rico says:

    Good evening everyone….

    London, have you been stealing my injuries theory 😉

    I am gutted that Merida is to go out on loan, gutted !!

  477. rico says:

    Whey Hey, I am now the proud owner of ESPN, footie, footie, footie 😛

  478. London says:

    Afternoon Rico

    I realise I should have credited you when I wrote what I did, but I do remember that it was you who came up with the original theory; I also remember agreeing with you……Rosicky has definitey got a Walcott injury (Rico) 😉

  479. London says:


    Where is Merida going? And how did you get ESPN? Just phone up Sky?

  480. rico says:

    Hi London, don’t you worry, I was teasing – I am known for that 😉

    Re ESPN – you can go ‘interactive’ on sky and select sky active, it then takes you through the upgrade process – or go on to the Sky website, and you can upgrade there too – both of which you save a mighty £5 😛

    Reports are that Merida is off on a season long loan to Levante – I hope it holds no substance as I think he will be an important part of our squad, especially in the FA Cup and CC 😦

  481. Rasputin says:

    Evening Roadsters,

    I’m unhappy Merida is going out on loan, he’s 19 and looks to me as though he’s ready for the occasional start in the prem……

  482. JonJon says:

    evening all…

    i just seen wengers interview..

    didnt fill me with much confidence..

  483. rico says:

    Evening Rasp – couldn’t agree more, I would rather see Merida than Diaby, Denilson and Eboue…

    Got to go out tonight – so can’t blog with my friends 😦 😦 😦

    Stay safe all – and catch you tomorrow …

  484. JonJon says:

    hi rico,bye rico

  485. London says:


    What interview?

  486. avenell says:

    This is the only one I have seen..

    He never said Vieira was out of the question.. he did say about Rosicky though.. But an injured hamstring.. not a strain mmm..

  487. JonJon says:

    evening london

    wenger did a press conference thingy…

    it was shown on sky sports…

    rosicky didnt look good

    he likes hangelaand but hasnt bid

    vieiras not coming back

    he doesnt think we have a height issue

    senderos is in talks with everton and if he leaves he wont be replaced..

  488. avenell says:

    They missed this bit though..

    “Not at the moment, no,” said Wenger, when asked if they were close to completing a deal from Vieira.

  489. JonJon says:

    i think we are gonna need a cb..

    gallas and silvestres contracts are up next year…

    senderos contract up too, but he’ll probaby leave now…

    rather get a new man in now…

    we need a cm…..

    and i want us to replace rosicky…if he comes back then great but it aint looking good..

    the last time he was out for 6 weeks we didnt see him for a season and a half…

  490. JonJon says:

    hangelaand, vieira, matuidi and eden hazard will do me..

    or zapata,veloso and silva 😉

  491. peachesgooner says:

    Evening all

    Good, lashings of torrential rain to water in the new planting – I would have taken photos but the monsoon arrived 🙂

    How are we all – anyone about 😉

  492. avenell says:

    Yeah just got in hi Peaches, clear skies down here at the min..

  493. peachesgooner says:

    On my way then………………………….

  494. peachesgooner says:

    All this working is all very well but………………is this Rosicky injury real or not ………………

  495. Rasputin says:

    Hi peaches … the injury is genuine, Arsene has confirmed it … only we don’t know how long he is out for except a minimum of 3 weeks

  496. London says:


    I think Wenger has already replaced Rosicky; he did that when he bought Arshavin.

    If you buy into the idea that Wenger expected Rosicky to play 80% of the games last year, as I do, then it is clear that he believed that, acting on the information of the medical staff, Rosicky’s return was imminent and as soon as he realised the true extent of Rosicky’s injury and the long term implications, he acted, and that took on the form of buying the Russian Gun (raif). I believe that he bought Nasri to replace Hleb. Anything we get from Rosicky from now on in is a bonus.

  497. avenell says:

    But Rosicky is Flamini’s replacement.. how does that work?.. 😉

  498. London says:

    I’m going to have to think of a new theory 😉

  499. London says:


    I know I am clutching at straws but this injury could still be a “Walcott” just to get him out of playing for the Czech Republic. The pressure on him to play there must be huge being the Captain and all and anyone with half a football brain can see that he isn’t ready for an international.

  500. London says:

    And a three week lay off takes him past all three games the Czech Rep have got lined up.

  501. Rasputin says:

    You may well be right London … call me a pessimist, but I would expect the following players to miss games through injury sustained through just playing games this coming season – Rosicky, Dudu, Diaby, RVP, & Gallas, on top of that there will be an indeterminate number of players picking up injuries through bad tackles etc. My point is (and has been made repeatedly), that the squad is thin in key areas and our success will be determined to a great extent by ‘luck’ with injuries. A CB and CM would reduce that factor. I think Matuidi is on his way. Although he may only cost £2m, he is 22 and so should be considered for a starting place. The problem is that AW will have to experiment with CM combinations in prem games, and that is not the time….

  502. London says:

    Good comment Rasp

    I didn’t realise Matuidi was only 22, that is a good thing. I would imagine that Wenger would introduce him in the same way as he did with Diarra, through the CC and the occasional game when we are in command. I take your point about the squad being thin, you are not alone; Wenger has also implied this by saying that he expects to sign two more players before the transfer window closes.

  503. Rasputin says:

    Thanks London, I try to take your advice and wait and see what happens come the 31st of August, but I see time slipping away and our competitors strengthening their squads and I can’t help myself. I said earlier that I think we are too conservative in the name of getting a ‘super deal’. I’d prefer to see us stump up an extra couple of million once in a while to ensure we get the player we want.

    I am somewhat confused by the Vermaelen deal, because we paid top dollar and as far as I know there were no other big players interested in him – so that appears to be the exception that proves my rule. I don’t think our defensive problems could be solved by bringing in just one talented CB … although its a good start…

  504. peachesgooner says:

    London and rasp – did you expect Rosicky not to really feature this season then – through more injuries 😦

    ave – I’m not sure about Rosicky being Flaminis replacement, you’ll have to convince me 🙂

  505. Rasputin says:

    Hi peaches, you know I have said many times that I don’t expect Rosicky to stay fit. He is a bonus when he plays, but not a banker in terms of regular performances

  506. peachesgooner says:

    ….and that is such a shame cos hes looked good and is obviously enjoying himself.

  507. peachesgooner says:

    Hi rasp – sorry that comment was to you. Do you have a monsoon – it seems like its been raining here for ever 😦

  508. avenell says:

    Peaches I will leave that to London.. it was his theory..

  509. Rasputin says:

    I see Tomas just like Michael Owen … good honest footballer, probably a very nice guy, just wants to play football but has been very unlucky with injuries ….. no-one can criticize him.

  510. London says:


    Yeah I know what you mean about the Vermaelen deal, it was different. I can only assume that the club know which other clubs are likely to string out a deal, even if the asking price is offered, and which are not. I have said many times before that I believe that Zenit were intent on streching out the Arshavin deal as long as they could even if we had offered the asking price of 20 ml at the beginning, when it became apparent that nobody else was interested I am glad that Arsenal saved the money that did. A similar thing seems to be happening with the Chimakh deal. I don’t quite understand why this should apply to Matuidi, it seems to me that if they want him why don’t they just buy him, at 2 mil it’s not a lot of money.

  511. London says:

    I haven’t competely given up on my idea that Rosicky could play the Flamini role in certain games. I almost convinced Jonjon the other day 😉 although this injury has set me back a bit.

    Night, night folks… the way, I don’t have any posts in the offing, so over to you guys

  512. Rasputin says:

    Night London 😉

  513. London says:


  514. London says:

    hehehe I’ve got a new toy….bold type…..London with bold type….scary… may all just as well concede now that………………. Rosicky could play the Flamini role 😉

  515. Big Raddy says:

    Morning All

    6 weeks away. No new signings. Ade and Kolo gone, Swiss Phil on the verge, and yet another example of AW’s dilemma … how and when to bring the kids into the first team. Mozart injured. AW hinting at signings. Problems at the centre of defence.

    Seems like I never went away

  516. London says:

    Welcome back BR

    If you were unable to see the Emirates Cup then you would have missed the bright spark of your absence and that is Jack Wilshire…..he set the weekend alight. Incidentally, in a live interview with Wenger after the game he said that he expects to sign two new players, now, as per usual, we believe it when we see it; but, if nothing else, it certainly is a statement of intent.

  517. rico says:

    Morning Everyone,

    Good to see you back Raddy, hope you had a wonderful break, plenty of rest, good food, wine and walks..

    Nothing has really changed at Arsenal, two out as you say, promises of signings as usual, but yet nothing – same old… Still, we have a while yet, so even though its hard, I am going to keep hope..

  518. Rasputin says:

    Morning Roadsters,

    Hi Raddy, nice to have you back 😉

  519. Rasputin says:

    D Day today for the CL qualifier…

    I am almost tempted to wish Darren Bent luck at Sunderland. He was the spuds top scorer and they treated him terribly. ‘Arry should have apologised for the ‘my wife could haves scored that’ comment – it illustrates what a gulf there is between him and Arsene, AW would never criticise a player for missing a chance let alone subject them to public ridicule.

  520. avenell says:

    Morning Roadsters..

    Hi Raddy, I hope you had a good time and better weather than we have had in the last month..

    Big day today.. CL draw.. Not a Russian team please..

  521. avenell says:

    Phew we have got Celtic.. 😦

  522. Rasputin says:

    Bugger, bugger, bugger … we’re better than Celtic, but they’ll make it very difficult. I hate playing Scottish teams, they up their game by 20% just because we’re English……

  523. avenell says:

    Morning Rasp.. Your dead right, they will run there legs off against us.. The good thing is Mobray will try to get them to play football..

    Should be a good atmosphere at the games..

  524. Rasputin says:

    Morning ave,

    I never like playing the sweaties … do you know who’s playing at home first?

  525. Rasputin says:

    That’s good then, if we come away from there with an away goal, we should be comfortable at home 😉

  526. avenell says:

    It’s on in less than 2 weeks.. real football.. yipee!

  527. rico says:

    Hello again all

    What a morning, England are 43-4 😦

    We draw Celtic ! That is a tough draw, and no walk over 😦

  528. Evo in Oz says:

    collingwood duck!

    gday all!

  529. rico says:

    Hi Evo, what are your boys on this morning, they are bowling the best they have so far this tour.. 😉

  530. Evo in Oz says:

    i know, about time Rico. this test is ours and you guys are gooooorrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnn!

  531. rico says:

    Ha Ha Evo – I am rain dancing as we post… 😉

  532. Evo in Oz says:

    lol – hopefully you’ll be out for less than 100

  533. avenell says:

    If they get too far in front, we can get Jonjon to sneak under the covers and dig up the wicket.. 😉

    Oh Hi Evo..

  534. rico says:

    Hi ave, has anyone a new post up their sleeve ?

  535. rico says:

    Thats the only way we might get anything out of the match 😉

  536. Evo in Oz says:

    gday Ave, how are you geezer?

  537. avenell says:

    G’day Mr Evo.. I’m not too bad mate.. Have you got your body clock ready for the new season?

    Hi Rico.. I have a couple half wrote.. But I have a load of work on.. I thought JJ had one.. if you have the time? 😉

  538. rico says:

    You are so cheeky ave, I would have but I knew you both were busy typing, so I didn’t want to tread on your toes again 😉

  539. Rasputin says:

    Hi rico …. step up Steve Harmison!! … he’s about our only chance in this one.

    Why have we chosen 5 strike bowlers. This is the weakest England batting lineup I think I’ve ever seen – we only need a draw, we should have picked 7 batsmen – we’ve handed the game to the aussies 😦

  540. Evo in Oz says:

    yep body clock well and truly worn in, so no troubles here. ive watched every pre-season game so far, so ready for tomorrow night too! although ill have to be watching the cricket and the wallabies at the same time as our game. lucky i have 2 TVs’s plus the computer!

  541. rico says:

    Hi Rasp, and now he has gone 😦 98 – 8

    The only bowler I would have stuck with is Jimmy, and maybe Onions, and would have bought Harmy in from the first test..

    I thought they were going to bring in Trot ( i think his name is), an in form batsman, but no, they stick with Bopara and Bell 😦

  542. rico says:

    Broad reminds me of Nikki B – so much potential, but seldom delivers 😉

  543. Evo in Oz says:

    1 more wicket please

  544. Evo in Oz says:

    can onions bat?

  545. Evo in Oz says:

    thats a no then. out!

  546. avenell says:

    Oh dear.. who won the toss?

    You might not be able to watch the cricket.. It might be

  547. Rasputin says:

    Hi Evo,

    It’s not polite to gloat 🙄

  548. Evo in Oz says:

    sorry, i wasnt sure, ive never really heard of him much

  549. rico says:

    Rasp, I would if the shoe were on the other foot 😉

    14 – 1 Come on England 😛

    England won the toss I think ave, should have fielded I guess…. Easy to sy that now though.. 😉

  550. rico says:

    Harmy Harmy 😛

  551. avenell says:

    I blame the fire alarm going off in Englands hotel at 5oclock this morning..

  552. rico says:

    I am seriously starting to wonder if we are going to buy anyone, Matuidi is not for sale, and the boss has said maybe a defender and attacker, so no desperately need midfielder…

    I may just go and support Reading 😉 😦

  553. Evo in Oz says:

    hahhaha….really, that’s awesome if it did?@

  554. avenell says:

    Come and get Hangeland!!

    Hodgson.. We don’t want to sell him to Arsenal..

    Arsenal haven’t even asked about him.

    But it will be difficult to keep him if we are offered big money.. lol..

  555. London says:

    We haven’t needed to make an approach to Hangeland; Hodgson has done the hard work for us; he has planted the seed in Hangeland’s head that he could be playing for a big team which will involve Champions League football, something that he might never get in the rest of his career as things stand.

    It will be as easy as picking an apple from a tree if that is what Wenger ultimately wants to do.

  556. London says:

    Afternoon Rico

    We don’t have to do what Liverpool do and pay over inflated prices for the likes of Glen Johnstone 18 million and the forever injured Aquilani for 20 million.
    More players will become available as the transfer window draws to a close. That is the time to pick up the right players at the right prices.

  557. rico says:

    Hi Ave, London – so that is probably going to be the defender, and what with Blanc saying ‘I don’t think Arsenal really want Chamakh, that is no doubt going to be the forward…

    I am a tad concerned though that Arsene is not hinting at a midfielder, unless of course he is keeping that really close to his chest 😉

  558. rico says:

    London – are you Arsene in disguise 😉 😉

    I think you are right and that is what he is waiting for, frustrating though it is for us – eh …

  559. London says:

    The more money Blanc gets for Chamakh the more money he will have to spend on improving his team, so I take anything that he says with a pinch of salt.

  560. rico says:

    Just imagine if Arsene shocks us all tomorrow night, seals the Villa deal after the match – what a night that would be ….. ahhhhhhhhhhhhhh

    Got to pop out, back shortly 😦

  561. JonJon says:

    evening all…

    im beginning to think this chamkaka could be a decent signing…

    i think it was london who said he wont be a 1st teamer straight away and he wont expect to be…so we’llhave a player willing to learn and willing to play hard…

    apparently he is pretty good at everything apart from shooting…good speed and good control….so with rosicky and nasri out we could use him out wide…like we used to do with wiltord…and at a price of 6mil it would be decent business…

    i wouldnt mind hangelaand either….i think london hit the nail on the head with hodgsons comments…

  562. rico says:

    Hey JonJon, have you come around to my way of thinking about Chamakh – I have him down for our highest goal scorer 🙂

  563. JonJon says:

    hahaha rico…

    no… 😉

    im just accepting and coming to terms with the fact that wenger is stubborn and will never spend much money on any player…

    no matter how much he has in the kitty he will always look for bargains…

    chamkaka is a typical wenger buy….last year of contract etc etc…

  564. rico says:

    We can all sing songs about him JonJon,

    Chaka Khan, Chaka Khan – Chaka ‘Khan’ can do
    what Adebayor couldn’t 😛

  565. London says:

    I’m looking forward to the game tomorrow, I suspect Wenger will go with what he views as his strongest eleven and it should be the same team that starts against Everton.


    If Rosicky and Nasri were playing they would replace Denilson and Song, you could even call for Ramsey and Wishire to play instead but I don’t think they are as strong as the pair above.

  566. avenell says:

    If we wait a month and we are confident in our squad, we can pick up Chamkaka and Hangeland for the price of one player..

    Rafa and ‘arry are just desperate, so they buy early. I am getting more confident Arsene will bring in a player or two..

    Tomorrow night’s KO is 20.30 isn’t it? Does anyone know if that is BST or CET?

  567. JonJon says:

    are we at home or away tomorrow??

    id like to see jack play away from the comfort of the emirates….it would test his ability as a pure talent or just a confidence talent… which we seem to have a lot of ….but i know the answer to that anyway…id just like proof..

  568. rico says:

    ave – that is what London said earlier, Arsene will wait until the 11th hour then get his players, must be like queueing in a Next sale 😛

  569. JonJon says:

    london i like that lineup but id change theo for dudu…rvp for nikki and jacky for denilson…

    theo cant play wengerball…he cant really do anything but run lets play dudu..

    rvp doesnt seem to link up that well with anyone….so lets play nikki who will link up….

    i still think song and denilson do the job of one man and take an extra man out of the attack…lets just play one in there (song) and put jacky in so he can play wengerball with cesc and AA

    denilson will just keep passing to gallas…

    i agree though the when nasri and rosicky come back they will be in the team

    i would go with


    and when rosicky(as if) and nasri are back id go with


    my second lineup goes on the basis that we have the same personell as what we have at the minute….our “DMs” aint good enough so lets just not play them and go for pure possesion football…defend by attack….

    add to the fact that wenger said he was looking at defender and an attacker….so i dont think we will see another CM before the close of the window…

  570. JonJon says:

    the thing with the next sale is that everyone has the same idea so leaving it until the last minute may leave you at the back of the queue…

    only difference is, next will stay open until the queue clears and everyone is served…the transfer window closes whether youve bought your player or not…i’d much rather see the players now than chance it in the 11th hour….remember last year with alonso???that worked out well didnt it???

    its like when you go xmas shopping…its best to do it early so you can get everything you want…and your sorted and theres no other complictaions…

    if you leave it until the last minute all the GI Joes with the kung fu grip and the divorcee barbie with all kens accessories have been sold out and you end up getting the yung ‘uns something like a pair of soxs….

    i dont want the soxs this xmas…

  571. rico says:

    JonJon, you have been stood in too many sales queues 😉 😉

    But you are right, lets hope it gets sorted on the 30th 😉

    I have to go guys, you all stay safe, sleep well and here’s to David Villa catching the same flight home tomorrow 😛

  572. JonJon says:

    nite nite my dear….ive missed ya this week but tomorrow i have no work so im about all day… 🙂

  573. Rasputin says:

    Evening roadsters,

    If AW is saying he is considering a defender and a striker (Chamakh and Hangeland?), I reckon he sees Matuidid (at about £2m) as a ‘bit of a gamble’ scenario ala Bischoff. I don’t understand why Matuidi is not sought by other clubs, he appears to be a pretty decent player.

  574. JonJon says:

    hi rasp…

    id settle for those 3

  575. London says:


    That was funny: I like that team London but I would just make these eleven little changes. lol.

    Re the Next sale, the thing to remember is that by then we will be at the top of the food chain: Real, City, Milan, Barça and the Chavs would have finished their business which will leave us at the top of the pecking order.

  576. Rasputin says:

    Hi JonJon

    At this late stage – so would I 😉

  577. London says:

    In fishing terms France is like a huge holding net full of players ready and waiting for Wenger to pull them out if and when he wants them. No one else is going to take a chance on any off them.

  578. London says:

    The only reason I can think of for the delay to the Matuidi deal is that Wenger thinks he might be able to improve upon it. That’s to say find someone better.

  579. avenell says:

    It could be that Arsene wants either a older CM player, or if he signs Matuldi he wants Vieira as well, as a insurance, so he needs to wrap up a double deal..

  580. Rasputin says:

    I admire your optimism and ability to compose positive scenarios from the phalanx of options guys …. hope you’re right and I’m wrong 😦

  581. London says:

    Good luck with that theory Ave 😉

  582. London says:


    All will be revealed by the 31st of August or whenever the window closes.

  583. London says:

    Are there any players that we can say we have missed out on because we didn’t act quick enough in this window? Benzema, Huntelaar, the list goes on. I can’t think of a single one.

  584. Rasputin says:

    Benzema was never in our scope … Huntelaar – who knows, maybe he didn’t want to play in England? We haven’t (officially) gone after any top names, no point when RM and citeh are plundering the stocks of mercenaries.

  585. avenell says:

    It’s all hindsight.. we don’t want nobody to get in the way of 25 goal Bendtner.. 🙂

  586. rico says:

    Morning Roadsters, footie tonight, such a shame its not televised 😦

  587. rico says:

    New post

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