Fool’s Gold

Is there anyone else apart from me who has wondered if Adebayor will continue his ridiculously high number of off-sides now he has joined City?

I think we are about to get a true view of who was really to blame for what seemed like repeated school boy errors.

The number was so high that I thought the finger of blame has to be pointed at the coaching staff and as the buck stops with Wenger, he surely must shoulder the lion share of the blame.

But it happened so often and seemed so obvious that I got to the point of saying to myself that Wenger cannot be that thick to continually allow this to happen, week in and week out.

I reasoned there must be more to it and even got to the point of wondering after the CL game at Old Trafford if Adebayor was getting off-side on purpose to slow the play down as a means of taking the pressure of off the defence.

This, I understand, was met with ridicule and I do not blame anyone for taking that view. Although, in my defence, I suspect the first time the idea of a professional foul was considered possible, some years ago, within the gentlemanly, cricket mentality that prevailed in this country; that too, was met with incredulity and disbelief.

I have watched that game again and still wonder if that was the case; but, there is no such excuse for being off side the number of times he was in games in which we were totally dominant.

Anyway, I get to my point; Mark Hughs, love him or hate him, I only said that because it was part of an expression, I know we all hate him; anyway again, Mark Hughs was a successful centre forward and knows a lot about playing that position, it is going to be interesting to see if he can sort Adebayor’s off-side problem out – I suspect he will, and do so very quickly.

The result will be that the anti-Wenger brigade will be handed a veritable arsenal of ammunition to attack him with.


400 Responses to Fool’s Gold

  1. London says:

    Morning Roadsters

    Slow news day.

  2. rico says:

    Morning all

    London, that is my own greatest fear this season, Ade finds his form, stays offside and is the league’s highest goal scorer..

    But in all honesty, he must know the offside rule, he has eyes to see the last defender, he himself should have the common sense to realise that just one step back would have been safe – you could tell him until you are blue in the face what the rules are, but on the pitch it is the individuals respounsibilty, and he failed us and himself time and time again..

    Will he learn – I sure hope not πŸ˜‰

    And trust Cashley to begin talking rubbish, it could be your own side that City push out of the top four you fool …

  3. rico says:

    Im off back to bed, catch you all later

  4. kelsey says:

    Morning London and rico.

    Actually it is quite a hard question to answer.Adebayor was caught offside 43 times in the PL last season,and I can’t accept it was a ploy to disrupt the game.
    Are you saying that possibly hughes will be able to either use Ade differently or mentor him better ?.Who knows ? The guy has played topflight football in the PL for 3.5 years,is no longer considerd a “youngster” so my gut feeling is that he will continue as he was.

    Slightly off subject,here are some interesting factsfrom last season.

    MC used the most players,and now they are overflowing with attackers/strikers.

    19% of all goals we conceded came from outside the box.

    We caught more opponents offside than any other team.

    33% of goals we conceded came from set pieces.

    RVP was joint top in assists (with Lampard)

    So looking at these facts it shows where our vunerabilites are yet we play the offside rule very well.

  5. Rasputin says:

    Morning Roadsters ….London, rico, kelsey……

    Interesting post London. What would be your conclusion if Adebayor plays as many games for citeh as he did for us last season and was offside half as many times?

    If that is the case, you don’t necessarily have to blame AW. We have an army of training staff. It would be nice to think that a lot of them tried to correct Ade’s problem. If citeh are successful it will mean that they are better at handling Ade the player and the man than we are. I said a few days ago that AW’s style of management is more cerebral and relies on a high level of mutual respect and if a player (ADE is a prime example) is basically dishonest and greedy, then rather like our play on the pitch of late, we have no plan B for dealing with troublesome players. Ideally we wouldn’t buy them in the first place as we have shown that the special ‘academy-type’ nurturing atmosphere at the club can be disrupted by one bad element.

  6. Rasputin says:

    This is confusing, but possibly very good news…

    “Wenger was quoted as saying that Eduardo will take another two months to return to action and the media of course made a big meal out of it and started writing stories that Eduardo had suffered a relapse.

    Wenger said: β€œβ€¦ in the next two months we’ll have Eduardo back as well, so we have offensive options, but you do not want to lose important players before the season starts.”

    Well, according to Eduardo himself this cannot be further from the truth! Speaking today to Croatian paper β€œJutarhji” he said:

    β€œI do not know anything about the statement made by my coach. It can not be true. I am completely ready physically”

    He went on to say that he has already been told in which games he will play in Austria and even for how long in each game.

    β€œI was told that I will play between 20 and 30 minutes on the 27th July when we play against Szombatelya. Two days later against Hannover 96 I will play a half” he said.

  7. Rasputin says:

    One for JonJon to ponder…. πŸ˜‰

    “Ashley Cole has said that he hopes Manchester City break into the top four of the Premier League this season – and cheekily added that he would like them to do so at the expense of Arsenal, his former club who he left amid acrimony four years ago.”

  8. kelsey says:

    Morning again.

    Eduardo had corrective surgery on the 20/5/09 and is expected to be fully fit to resume playing two months later,which is now,and therefore my understanding is the same as the quote above.

  9. rico says:

    Morning Again all,

    Hi-de-Hi Rasp – keep up my dear, the Cashley comment earlier in the morning πŸ˜‰ πŸ˜‰

  10. Rasputin says:

    Ho-di-ho rico…….. sorry, I thought I’d read everything 😳

    I think I got up people’s noses last night. I wasn’t trying to start an argument or pour coldwater on people’s enthusiasm, its just that I haven’t seen/read any concrete evidence that we are looking to buy any players and I desperately want us to 😦

  11. rico says:

    You Rasp, surely not πŸ˜‰ Not mine anyway πŸ˜›

    But that is the Arsene way Rasp – we won’t get a whiff until the player is almost signed, keep faith and hope πŸ™‚

  12. Rasputin says:

    OK rico … if you say so …. I trust you πŸ˜‰

    I’m not going to say I told you so if I turn out to be right on this one 😦

    The Sven thing is funny – did you hear the interview when his mobile phone went off – very unprofessional! Ulrika made him look like a bit of a clown and that did nothing to enhance his image πŸ˜†

  13. London says:

    You never got up anyones nose, your concerns are valid.

  14. Rasputin says:

    Thanks London, the last thing I want to do is be disruptive in my spiritual home πŸ™‚

    I really enjoy blogging with you and I think we understand each other perfectly now so there’s no need for the others to worry or go and hide πŸ˜‰

  15. rico says:

    Rasp – We will buy a player or two, he knows he to get a midfielder at least, and that was before the Nasri injury…

    May the words ‘I told you so, never be spoken’ πŸ˜‰

    Good on you London and Rasp πŸ˜›

  16. kelsey says:

    Blimey…..a love in πŸ˜‰

  17. Irishgunner says:

    Morning all,

    Adebayor is lazy, its that simple. Can’t blame AW for this one.

    If I were an international striker and first choice at a top club and my manager came up to me in training and said “This is the offside rule and here is a book I would like you to study “the dummies guide to the offside rule.”

    Interesting theory London about him breaking up play but one I don’t buy into. A better idea would be for him to chase balls into the corner and try and win throw ins as opposed to standing offside and grinning like a twat.

    Anyone else think we might be sneakingly signing Hangelaand? Fulham have bought Riise’s brother who is a CB and are trying to tie up a deal for Turner from Hull as well.

  18. kelsey says:

    the man we are buying surname starts with H

  19. avenell says:

    Morning Roadsters..

    Right peeps we have a small problem that we need to iron out..

    I booked Jonjon in for todays post and put it in the widget 2 days ago..

    London you have jumped in and now I don’t know if Jonjon even had one..

    How are we going to solve this so we have a steady flow of posts and not 2 in a day then not have one for 4 days?

    I suggest we put someone in charge..or I have good communication with Peaches so let either of us know…
    Your thoughts on the matter please..

  20. Irishgunner says:

    “If I were an international striker and first choice at a top club and my manager came up to me in training and said β€œThis is the offside rule and here is a book I would like you to study β€œthe dummies guide to the offside rule.” – 😳 never finished it

    EDIT: If I were an international striker and first choice at a top club and my manager came up to me in training and said β€œThis is the offside rule and here is a book I would like you to study β€œthe dummies guide to the offside rule.” I’d be disgusted that he should question my footballing intelligence.

    Then again Adebayor isn’t exactly an intelligent person.

  21. Irishgunner says:

    Huntelaar and Hangelaand?

  22. Rasputin says:

    Morning Irish,

    I don’t want to waste much more time and energy on Ade. As you say, he is considered to be a top class international striker, but can you tell me of any other top striker who can’t take free kicks. Basically, he is rubbish at shooting/kicking the ball straight. Half his goals the season before last came off his shins….

    The Hangelaand deal is becoming more likely when you see the possible replacements Fulham are lining up, but I still doubt that we’ll come first in the race to sign Huntelaar.

  23. Rasputin says:

    Basically any player with 2 consecutive a’s in their name then πŸ™‚

  24. Rasputin says:

    They should come and play for the Aarsenal πŸ˜‰

  25. Irishgunner says:

    Morning Rasp,

    I agree with you. Adebayor hasn’t got a great footballing brain – Bendtner will be better, he gets into better positions just needs to cool down in front of goal and stay calm.

    IF we sign Hangelaand do you think that’ll see Kolo/Gallas leave (I doubt Gallas will leave)? Maybe if City want to offer Β£15mil for Kolo, Wenger will take it should we get Hangelaand?

  26. Irishgunner says:

    The Armoury will run out of “A”s πŸ˜†

  27. Rasputin says:

    Yes Irish, I agree. Gallas has no resale value and will be off next year any way. Hangelaand for Kolo is a great deal for us … its easy to be nostalgic about Kolo – the last of the Invincibles, but actually he’s not good enough any more. The idea of Hangelaand next to TV is pretty awesome and hopefully JD will continue to improve and add a bit of grit to his game.

  28. Irishgunner says:

    Kolo wasn’t the same after the last ACN.

    Did you read Djourou’s interview in this month’s official magazine?

    He talks about wanting to be more aggressive and adding leadership to his game.

    Diaby went off and bulked up too and Fabregas looks a lot stronger as well.

    It seems our players are more determined this season.

  29. kelsey says:


    I think London should get a straight red,no new posts for 4 days,as a first offence πŸ˜‰

  30. avenell says:

    Morning Kelsey.. I disagree… London should be made to write a new post every day for a week.. πŸ˜‰

  31. Rasputin says:

    Hi Kelsey,

    Would you bet your new teeth that the new signing is mystery man ‘H’ ? πŸ˜‰

  32. peachesgooner says:

    Morning all

    I want to join in but have to pop out for a bit 😦

    Hope you’re all enjoying the sunshine that I ordered and rico provided πŸ™‚

    Catch up in a while…….

    Huntelaar for me not Hangelaand…..

  33. Rasputin says:

    I’ve just heard on the grapevine….we’ve signed a new South American wonderkid – Aardvark. He’s nocturnal, low to the ground and prone to eating ants but will only cost Β£3.50 πŸ˜‰

  34. London says:

    Morning Ave

    I think the answer is that I should have gotten a more concrete go ahead. Two days ago I did mention that I had something and you said go for it. To avoid future confusion I will make sure that no one else has written anything that is topical and therefore needs to be up there ASAP. I will certainly get clearance if I feel I have written something of worth but the stuff I have written recently could just as easily be a regular comment rather than a headline post. So, Jonjon, if you have written something that needs to go up today please feel free to just replace mine.

  35. London says:

    Aardvark, another one that will be off the ACN for two months, more bloody Africans

  36. rico says:

    Hi ave, peaches, Irish and kelsey – hope you are all tip top..

    I have to go out for a while, catch up with you all later..

    Hi JonJon when you get on πŸ˜‰

  37. avenell says:

    Morning London.. I doubt if there is anything topical at the moment anyway.. so if Jonjon has anything we can use it tomorrow..

    But I would like to get this ironed out for 4 reasons..

    Like you say sometimes a post gets stale, we need a new one.. but if we put 2 on in a day we could have spread those over 4 days..

    Also the post seems to slow the page refresh down when it gets old, especially if there are a few You tubes on it..

    If someone like your self has spent a good few hours doing a match report, it deserves to be on for a day..

    Also sometimes we could be half way through a decent discussion and a short post goes on and kills it.. as all the comments are on the previous one..

  38. kelsey says:


    i think it is highly likely that the new man or men will be established before I get my teeth sorted.

    meanwhile where is clichy and why is fabianski out for 6/8 weeks ?

  39. Irishgunner says:

    Kelsey – Fabianski picked up a knee injury

  40. avenell says:

    I thought Fabianski was back for the Emirates cup.. I sure Wenger said it..

  41. London says:


    Nowadays, I’m not so precious about my posts, if I am in the middle of something I am proud of I will let you know to see if you want to use it, but either way, I will get more concrete clearence.

  42. London says:

    The absence of Clichy is becoming suspicious.

  43. Irishgunner says:

    Did Clichy come back training yet?

    Bendtner, Cesc, Walcott and Gibbs are back aren’t they?

  44. Rasputin says:

    From the Arsenal site / injury news …. very helpful….NOT!!!

    “The injury news on is updated only from ArsΓ¨ne Wenger’s press conferences and his interviews with Arsenal TV Online. For clarification purposes, this is dated.

    Injury news will resume during pre-season 2009/2010.”

  45. London says:

    Why wouldn’t Clichy be back for training?

  46. Rasputin says:

    This would really be a shock … Clichy to RM in a swap deal for Huntelaar. We have Gibbs and Traore waiting in the wings!

  47. London says:

    Or to Barça Rasp, they like plundering our left backs.

  48. Irishgunner says:

    Is he back?

    Not sure why he wouldn’t be back, there just doesn’t seem to be any news on him.

  49. Rasputin says:

    From the Bleacher report….

    “Real Madrid has moved to take a backseat in the transfer market, for now, with two more players to comeβ€”in all probability a defensive midfielder and a left-back.

    Focusing on left, Marcelo has been good there last year but a fall in the pecking order behind Heinze kept him on the bench for the most part and the same fate seems to be awaiting him for next season.

    The matter of signing a left back has to gain urgency in terms of zeroing in on targeted player(s). Simultaneously, the club also has to offload Gabriel Heinze who is an very overrated and under-performing player.

  50. Irishgunner says:

    Who wrote that Rasputin?

  51. Rasputin says:

    Am I starting a rumour here? … Daily Mail style…..

    Actually it would be quite fun if not a bit naughty if several of us went on other sites simultaneously reporting some outrageous info just to see how quickly it would spread across the internet.

  52. Rasputin says:

    Khalid Khan Irish, July 11th… the headline is ….

    One Left Back Needed to Reinforce Real Madrid Defense

  53. avenell says:

    London.. I think you are missreading me a bit mate..

    It is not that your precious about your posts it’s the other way around.. we enjoy them and to keep the site chugging regular posts are best..

    This problem was not aimed at you solely, But to all the authors on the site..

    Because we don’t all live in the same area and there are a few of us, It is difficult to organize.. So I wanted some opinions on the best solution..

  54. Irishgunner says:

    Rasp – That site is 99% written by people like myself so its all guess work and what is around the internet. Its like me saying we should sign Cana because we only need a CM.

    Do you remember that story from a few months back where some site said Arsenal had signed some young superstar and newspapers ran with it only to find out it was all made up?

  55. Rasputin says:

    OK Irish,

    I don’t remember the incident of fake reporting, but I’m sure mine was not an original thought.

  56. Irishgunner says:

    We’re banned from making up stories on Bleacher Report unless it is clearly marked as Satire. Someone made up a piece about an NFL player a few weeks back and the media in America began to run with it and the club in question were not happy with B/R.

  57. Irishgunner says:

    This is it, “Masal Bugduv from Moldova”

  58. Irishgunner says:

    ” Masal Bugduv sounds very similar to the Irish pronunciation of M’asal Beag Dubh (My Little Black Donkey), a story by the Irish-language writer PΓ‘draic Γ“ Conaire about a dishonest salesman who seeks an exaggerated price for a lazy donkey.[7] John Burns of The Sunday Times suggested that the Γ“ Conaire story was indeed the inspiration for the entire hoax, and that the prank, which also included a fake Moldovan newspaper titled Diario Mo Thon (Diary My Ass), was in effect a satire on the football transfer market.[8]”

    Ha ha in short – don’t trust Irish people πŸ˜‰

  59. kelsey says:

    Rasputin sent me this :

    When I was born, I was given a choice – A big dick or a good memory. I don’t remember, what I chose.

    2. Your birth certificate is an apology letter from the condom factory.

    3. A wife is a sex object. Every time you ask for sex, she objects.

    4. Impotence: Nature’s way of saying ‘No hard feelings…’

    5. There are only two four letter words that are offensive to men – ‘don’t’ and ‘stop’, unless they are used together.

    6. Panties: Not the best thing on earth, but next to the best thing on earth.

    7. There are three stages of sex in a man’s life: Tri Weekly, Try Weekly, and Try Weakly.

    8. Virginity can be cured.

    9. Virginity is not dignity, its lack of opportunity.

    10. Having sex is like playing bridge. If you don’t have a good partner, you’d better have a good hand.

    11. I tried phone sex once, but the holes in the dialer were too small.

    12. Marriage is the only war where you get to sleep with the enemy.

    13. Q: What’s an Australian kiss?
    A: The same thing as a French kiss, only down under.

    14. A couple just married were happy with the whole thing. He was happy with the Hole and she was happy with the Thing……

    15. Q: What are the three biggest tragedies in a mans life?
    A: Life sucks, job sucks, and the wife doesn’t.

    16. Q: Why do men find it difficult to make eye contact?
    A: Breasts don’t have eyes.

    17. Despite the old saying, ‘ Don ‘t take your troubles to bed’, many men still sleep with their wives!!

  60. peachesgooner says:

    Hiya I’m back………..

    kelsey – men get such hard life don’t they…… πŸ™‚

    ‘Breasts don’t have eyes’ πŸ™„ πŸ™„

  61. peachesgooner says:

    Morning Irish

    In January rasp and I spoke about us signing Arteta and I put in on a blog-site as an open question – within half an hour it had spread and was being reported back……. it was quite funny, so it is easy to start a rumour and for it to gather pace….

  62. avenell says:

    Ahh Peaches.. help me out on this post problem..

  63. Irishgunner says:

    So now I know who to blame for that rumour πŸ˜‰

    I’m not disputing with Rasputin (that rhymed ha ha) that these things take off, in fact they spread like wild fire.

  64. avenell says:

    Irish.. Can you tell me if I am invisible today? lol..

  65. Irishgunner says:

    I can see you Avenell πŸ˜‰

    As for your post problem – What if you allocated special days to people or would that be awkward? Or if there will only be posts going up every four days people do it on a rota basis?

  66. Irishgunner says:

    Arsenal jetted off to thier Austrian training camp on Monday afternoon.

    Below is the full list of players who travelled:-

    Manuel ALMUNIA
    Abou DIABY
    Bacary SAGNA
    Kolo TOURE
    Philippe SENDEROS
    Tomas ROSICKY
    Samir NASRI
    William GALLAS
    Robin VAN PERSIE
    Aaron RAMSEY
    Alex SONG
    Mikael SILVESTRE
    Johan DJOUROU
    Gael CLICHY
    Andrey ARSHAVIN
    Vito MANNONE
    Nicklas BENDTNER
    Emmanuel EBOUE
    Armand TRAORE
    Thomas VERMAELEN
    Wojciech SZCZESNY
    Carlos VELA
    Theo WALCOTT
    Kieran GIBBS

    So Clichy is in Austria πŸ™‚

    I thought Vela was still with Mexico πŸ˜•

  67. rico says:

    Right you mutley crew, the drunken one is back πŸ˜‰

    mme, yep, just been out for lunch and a couple of glasses of the naughty stuff……

    πŸ˜› πŸ˜‰

  68. rico says:

    No-one around so catch you later 😦

  69. Rasputin says:

    Hi Folks,

    kelsey – thanks for the acknowledgement πŸ˜‰

    Ave – I’m not starting any rumours…. when’s your next appointment with the parole board? πŸ™„

    Rico – eat, drink and be merry 😳

    London – ding, ding, round two πŸ˜›

  70. London says:

    What’s happening? Who is being negative? Who is calling for me to take my sword and shield and do battle with those naughty doomers?

    I don’t believe that there is a problem with the posts, especially during the off season, there is almost nothing topical that has to go up asap or it will date.
    My view is that none of us are that prolific and none of us want to take it on as if it were a job, which I fear it would become if we were alocated a particular day to post….well that is the way I would see it anyway.

  71. Cartman says:

    uhh hello!

  72. Rasputin says:

    Nice one Irish … a complete contrast to the utterings of Mr. A’Hole. All of the Invincibles have remained fiercely loyal to the club after leaving. I was so pleased to acknowledge Bobby in the CL last season. We treated him pretty shabbily in the end but he still says wonderful things about the club.

  73. Irishgunner says:

    Spot on Rasputin.

    Its great to hear Pires, Henry and the like still wishing the club the best and hoping we win. I can imagine Henry smiling should we pick up silverware next season.

  74. Rasputin says:

    Ok folks,

    I’m off to play a 20:20 game…. in the rain 😦 Ketchup later

  75. JonJon says:

    hello cartman….screw you guys im going home…

    evening all…sorry havent been about today hectic at work..

    london the post is clever….at first when you said ades offsides were intentional i thought you’d lost the plot…but then you backed it up with the comparison to pro fouls and can i add time wasting…


    but….ade was a fool..a complete and utter donut….he isnt clever enough to think of something like that and even if wenger did tell him to do it i reckon ade had an offside bonus in his contract…cos ade is the type of person who only understands orders if theres a pay check involved….and even then he cant be bothered….

    rasp…coles a prick….he was demoted to my public enemy number two this year as i was going to concentrate all my efforts on the donut…but hes put himself right back at number one and hes dine us a favor…if that comment doesnt motivate the team next year then nothing will…cole could of won us the league with that remark the smarmy prick……

    he can take his words and ram them up his arse….although he’ll probably like it….

  76. Irishgunner says:

    “he can take his words and ram them up his arse….although he’ll probably like it….” πŸ˜†

  77. avenell says:

    Cartman.. Hello mate .. Someone has let you on now sorry about that I was out..

    You shouldn’t have any problems again πŸ™‚

  78. peachesgooner says:

    Hi all – I’m back and it seems everyones gone…..

    rasp – theres some serious rain about and thunder and lightning – don’t know if you’ve already had it yet but if not it could be heading your way…. 😦

    ave – I thought we’d decided that authors should check the side-bar before publishing – London that includes you πŸ™‚ xx πŸ™‚

  79. peachesgooner says:

    Do you want me to be the post-mummy too?

  80. peachesgooner says:

    Shall we tidy the widget up a bit…..shall I have a go…..

  81. Irishgunner says:

    We had very bad thunder a few hours ago – mad stuff

  82. JonJon says:

    i did have a post and i was going to put it on but then i seen londons…it dont matter…i enjoy londons posts so i dont take offence at all…besides it turned out to be a masterstoke because due to unforseen circumstances i havent been able to get on all day…..

  83. Irishgunner says:

    Since the Premier League started, when Arsenal have played Everton away in the opening fixture we have finished either 1st or 2nd in the league.

  84. JonJon says:

    irish cashley has really got me going with that….

    if i was in the arsenal team id pass the ball to him just so i could tackle him….

    its got me worked up….i dont care about silverware next season…as long as we finish above both chavski and citeh….although the silverware would be nice.. πŸ˜‰

  85. peachesgooner says:

    JonJon – shall we let Londons post run for another day and yours go up on Saturday

  86. peachesgooner says:

    Irish – that is a very good omen πŸ™‚

  87. JonJon says:

    blimey irish….

    i’ll take that my dear…as long as if we are 2nd it isnt chavski or citeh in 1st….

    someone like everton would do me… πŸ˜‰

  88. JonJon says:

    yeah peaches…thats fine with me…

  89. Irishgunner says:

    Jon Jon – Ashley is just a silly little boy, leave him to counting his money.

    Peaches – I know, hopefully we are due a 1st πŸ™‚

  90. Irishgunner says:

    Jon Jon – Or Man Utd or Liverpool

    I hope City finish ahead of United and we finish ahead of everyone, then I’ll be one happy camper

  91. JonJon says:


    yeah irish….let them all fight it out…we’ll win the league by a country mile and put them all to the sword….

  92. Irishgunner says:

    Next Year’s EPL Finish (in accordance with teams I like)

    1. The Arsenal Points = 100000000000million (extra points for brillance)

    2. Everton Points = 70
    3. Burnley Points = 65

    Everyone else can feck off

  93. peachesgooner says:

    That little sh*t should know better than to shoot his mouth off – don’t tell me he doesn’t ever venture out in London……does he think he’s gonna be safe from Gooners, hes clearly not of sound mind………..

  94. peachesgooner says:

    Oh wow, wouldn’t it be wonderful …….. πŸ™‚ πŸ™‚ πŸ™‚

  95. Irishgunner says:

    I’m interested to see how Diaby comes back after his summer of bulking up.

    There is a good player in that man, just needs consistency and a bit of a footballing brain.

  96. London says:

    Ahh, I see my mistake now…..side bar, widget, name of person doing post…won’t happen again.

    And on the subject of getting it wrong; I seem have got it wrong again over Ibrahimovic, I was convinced that BarΓ§a were going to sign David Villa….well if I could just get that one wrong about him never coming our way I’m sure we would all be very happy.

  97. JonJon says:

    london???? πŸ˜‰

    villa??? to arsenal???? you reckon????

    dont do this to me… πŸ˜‰

    there is a chance…there is there is there is!!!!!!!!

  98. peachesgooner says:

    Hi London – not to worry :), if you want to know how to get into the side-bar for the future I put the instructions in the Girlie Bits up the top……..or you could let me or ave know πŸ˜‰

  99. peachesgooner says:

    Oooh London – could it be magic – I feel a song coming on….. but why this year?? why not last year??

  100. peachesgooner says:

    Of course he’ll have to change his name to Daavid Villaa πŸ˜‰

  101. avenell says:

    London….. πŸ™‚ top man.. that’s all we need to do..

  102. Irishgunner says:

    “By the end of the campaign the Lilywhites were in the race for a Europa League spot, and Hoddle thinks that 62-year-old Redknapp deserves much credit for his work at the club.

    “Harry’s turned them round, he has now got his own players to buy and I’m hoping they have a really good season – I think they can,” the former England manager told

    “I wish them well and I hope they have a good season. I like Harry a lot, he’s a great lad and I’ve got a lot of respect for what he’s done in football, so fingers crossed they can go on from there.
    “It was a difficult season for them, there was too much change. Let’s hope that they settle now and leave Harry to do the job over the next few years.

    “There has been too much change for too long. People like me, plus others, haven’t been given enough time. Hopefully now they can have a big season and build on it, and allow Harry to do the job all Spurs fans want.”


    Honestly, did Redknapp’s tapping up of players and brown envelopes get shoved under the table because he is English πŸ™„

    ” I like Harry a lot, he’s a great lad and I’ve got a lot of respect for what he’s done in football” – makes me vomit

  103. London says:


    There is certainly more of a chance that Ibrahimovic has gone to BarΓ§a. I can’t see why they would sign Ibrahimovic and Villa in the same transfer window.

    Real Madrid are out of the running as are City and Inter which leaves Milan(can’t see it) and Chelsea…now that is a depressing thought.

  104. peachesgooner says:

    Do you think they’d notice if he went missing after we go to play there…….

  105. Irishgunner says:

    Valencia need a new center back after selling Albiol – pack your bags Silvestre/Senderos plus Β£30million (we can owe them the other Β£10mil πŸ˜‰ )

  106. peachesgooner says:


    We’ve got Cesc Fabregas We’ve got Cesc Fabregas
    We’ve got Cesc Fabregas We’ve got Cesc Fabregas

    so why would he want to go to the chavs?????

  107. London says:

    We worked our selves up into a frenzy over Benzema (Pah)I think we are going to need cyber cold showers for Villa.

  108. JonJon says:

    london…i dont understand why they have swapped ibramovich for etooo

    oh well… it aint my team so i dont care. πŸ˜‰

    its interesting now isnt it london…

    the two teams that villa wanted to join arent going for him….but he still wants to leave valencia….???

    this leaves only options in italy and england….

    milan are the only team in italy who have the money to get him i reckon….but spain and england are the two best leagues in the world… will he want to take a step down….

    which leaves manutd…who say they arent buying….
    citeh..who already have 9 strikers and i dont see villa as a mercenary..
    liverpool and us….

    and if we cant compete financially with liverpool then somethings wrong….

    and i know pool have the spanish connection but so do we….;)

  109. JonJon says:

    peaches are you planning something naughty at the valencia game???…

    count me in….

    ive always said id do time for robbing a bank…as long as i had time to hide the money first and it was enough for me to retire on when i got out…. πŸ˜†

  110. Irishgunner says:

    Liverpool forked out huge money for Johnson.

    Only way they could afford Villa is to sell Alonso for about Β£35mil and get money elsewhere.

    Villa will cost Β£40million plus.

  111. JonJon says:

    oh i forgot chelsea but he wouldnt want to go to that shit hole..besides who wants to play with cashley….???

    other than jenas.. πŸ˜†

  112. Irishgunner says:

    I am willing to offer my house as a refuge for Villa to be kept upon his kidnapping πŸ˜‰

  113. JonJon says:

    like you say irish…valencia need players…

    so lets give em a few and 25mil….

    i wouldnt care about a CM if we signed villa…it wouldnt matter….

    id be happy for denilson to be made captian as long as villa was our striker… πŸ˜‰

  114. JonJon says:

    haha irish….

  115. Irishgunner says:

    Tomorrow is Friday – isn’t that normally unveiling day? I wonder is there one that slipped under the radar?

  116. rico says:

    Now then, Now then ……

    Did someone mention David Villa…. JonJon, I am all,……. ears πŸ˜‰ πŸ˜‰

    Evening all πŸ˜‰ πŸ˜‰

  117. JonJon says:

    rico we are organising operation abduct a world class striker…

    it involves a friendly game with a certain spanish team, a certain world class striker, a big bag, and irishs house…. πŸ˜‰

  118. Irishgunner says:

    Jon Jon – A big bag with air holes – a comatosed World Class Striker wouldn’t be much good πŸ˜‰

  119. JonJon says:


    it wouldnt surprise me if wenger has already signed somebody….

    and hes waiting until the emirates cup to unviel them….it will generate a better mindset if you announce a new player in front of your own fans…instead of in a different country….

    come on you mighty reds…lets have some….and chin cashley while your at it….hit him with ade…

  120. Irishgunner says:

    Could be a spot of truth in that Jon Jon.

    So that’s next weekend isn’t it?

    This better not be like last season where we wait for someone to come and it doesn’t happen. I rather he said we were getting no-one if that were the case.

  121. JonJon says:

    irish could you imagine villa in the red and white????

    imagine the effect it will have on the whole arsenal community….

    it would be like when popeye had his spinach…we would be unstoppable…

  122. Irishgunner says:


    That would be awesome – I will have Arsene Wenger’s babies if he buys David Villa.

    I don’t see it happening to be honest so unfortunately you won’t see what the French-Irish spawn would look like.

    On another note – more great Henry quotes:

    Barcelona striker and Arsenal legend Thierry Henry has warned his old club that they should try to hold onto Cesc Fabregas for as long as they can.
    Henry told the Sun: β€œIt is vital Arsenal keep Cesc. Vital.”
    “He is the Arsenal captain and he is young and I’m sure he wants to give something back to the club. Knowing him, he will.”

    β€œBut it is vital they keep Cesc.”

    Instead of “Come and Join me in Spain” – Top man Henry.

  123. peachesgooner says:

    Irish – shhhhhhhhhh – he doesn’t need any encouragement to say that πŸ˜‰

  124. JonJon says:

    yeah irish its next week

    and i know…last year hurt deep…esecially after wenger said he was getting someone else….

    it was like a dagger to the heart…i stayed up til 12….nothing…

    woke up early and kept checking…still nothing…it didnt sink in… i was in denial…

    but i think ive told ya before…blame ade….wenger had his targets but didnt have the time or funds to get them because of that gits transfer saga and wage demands….

  125. Irishgunner says:

    I will 100% blame Adebayor over Wenger πŸ™‚

    Peaches – I think the young kids can step up anyway πŸ˜† (kidding)

  126. peachesgooner says:

    Yes Irish πŸ™„

  127. rico says:

    JonJon, Irish and I already have an agreement to go to ‘that’ match and hijack him – just trust us will you πŸ˜‰

    Has anyone watched Green Street ?? Dreadful language, but a footie gang war related film… If any of you would like to borrow it, please let me know..

    I have a headache 😦

  128. London says:


    Irish is right in as much that Valencia need David Villa but they need to sell him more: their debt makes Chelsea look a self sustaining business.

    The wine is out, where is Rasputin?

  129. Irishgunner says:

    Don’t roll your eyes Peaches, you’ll “kill” Denilson and Song πŸ˜‰

  130. kelsey says:

    anyone got an opinion on diaby πŸ˜‰

  131. London says:

    You trouble maker

  132. Irishgunner says:

    Rico – Green Street is quite good, better than Football Factories anyway.

    London – Exactly, Valencia know they can get big bucks for him.

  133. London says:


    Valencia have got to get big bucks for him.

  134. Irishgunner says:

    Β£40 million plus I reckon – nothing less.

  135. JonJon says:

    rico..its a good film that.. seen it many a time.. πŸ˜‰

  136. kelsey says:

    ok what about viera.

  137. London says:

    Valencia have stated 50 mil minimum. Come on Stan show off a bit, throw some of that Yankee muscle around.

  138. peachesgooner says:

    rico – It was such fun getting that headache you can’t mind really πŸ˜‰

    London – rasp is hopefully carrying his bat as we speak or hes been washed away – steady on the wine for about another half an hour….. 😳

  139. Irishgunner says:

    He comes from Senegal, he plays for Arsenal.

  140. London says:

    Ok what about Viera? Lol. You are on form tonight Kelsey

  141. rico says:

    I am watching it now – its language is very strong, but I love Frodo in it πŸ˜‰ πŸ˜‰

  142. peachesgooner says:

    Hi kelsey – now Vieira theres a player worth talking about…… πŸ™‚

  143. peachesgooner says:

    50m???????????????? We’ll never be able to afford that – how many defenders do they need??

  144. rico says:

    Ave – re the post’s -was the post widget not meant to sort all that out ?

  145. peachesgooner says:

    We could part-exchange a couple for now and a couple for later………

    Silvestre and Send dare ross for now and throw in a couple of babies for the future……..

  146. JonJon says:

    vieira wouldnt be able to hack the PL now…id take him back in a coaching role….but not a playing one…


    if barron von greenback wants to win us over and make us competitive again, as he puts it, then why doesnt he give us the 60mil outright. no strings to show his good faith and bankroll the villa deal….

    id accept that….make him sign a form though saying we dont owe him anything in return and then its all good…

  147. peachesgooner says:

    rico – London has admitted to not following the Post Widget idea – hes fine with it now though πŸ™‚

  148. Irishgunner says:

    Adebayor = Β£25mil

    Senderos = Β£7mil

    Silvestre = Β£2mil

    Randall = Β£2mil

    Simpson = Β£3mil
    Total = Β£39mil plus Β£11mil Arsene has in his chequebook = πŸ˜€

  149. kelsey says:

    I just realised my comments are on the wrong channel. oooops

    Hard keeping up with PomPom

  150. peachesgooner says:

    What I’ve read about Kroenke not paying for his shares yet leads me to believe that he won’t be bank-rolling a player just yet………………..

  151. JonJon says:

    why we taliking about cash and swap deals???

    i thought it was settled that we were just knicking him….

  152. peachesgooner says:

    kelsey – don’t complain when we don’t talk to you then πŸ˜†

  153. peachesgooner says:

    Ooooops you’re right but don’t we need an official line aswell – as cover….. πŸ˜‰

  154. Irishgunner says:

    How can Kroenke buy shares and not pay for them?

  155. peachesgooner says:

    I’ll try to find the info………

  156. rico says:

    Thanks peaches, but I have to say that sometimes it’s hard to ‘follow the rules’, just sometimes things come together in the mind and before you know it you have put up a new post, I know, I have copied and pasted many and posted them when its not been my turn 😦 ;);)

    One thing that we are all so lucky to have bloggers who do that for the good, and with absolutely no intention to deprive – and like many have said before, we are so lucky……

    Thanks Avenell and JonJon for starting Avenell Road πŸ™‚

  157. rico says:

    kelsey, you disloyal old chap you πŸ˜‰ πŸ˜‰

  158. London says:

    Ok Diaby

    I refuse to write any player off before the season has started; all have got another year’s experience under their belts and I expect them all to be better this season than last and that includes Diaby and Denilson; the latter I feel sorry for; he should never have had to play the amount of games he did. Last season should have been the next gentle step towards a regular first team place not to have been thrust into such an important role in which he probably unwittingly carried our premiership hopes on his shoulders.

  159. Irishgunner says:

    I heard he had done that Peaches but normally when you buy something you pay for it – did he take out a loan or has he only agreed to buy them in principle?

    If I had shares, I want the cash for selling them.

  160. Irishgunner says:

    I must be off.

    Night all πŸ™‚

  161. avenell says:

    Haha cheers rico!! I must admit I’ve just come back.. and I’m lost with who is talking to who.. πŸ˜‰

  162. London says:

    The reason Kreoke got the shares without paying for them was that the board were so keen to make him the majority share holder, which they hoped would fend of Baron von greenback from Uzbecistan, that they gave them to him on the basis that he would pay later.


    That is a funny image: if Baron Von Greenback wanted to win us over all he needs to do is have a photo of him with his arm around David Villa with a caption out his mouth shouting Prezzzzzzzyyyyyy.

  163. JonJon says:

    i agree with you on denilson london…it was a massive test for him and its unfair when he is made a scapegoat for our misfortune last season…

    he did well…he was the only regular in a midfield that managed to get to 4th…

    on the other hand it pisses me off when people make out he was our player of the season last year and he was the best player in his position in the PL…..

    my arguement against denilson is not that he is underrated…i know what hes capable of…its the fact that hes overrated…at this moment in time…..

    as for diaby..i have nothing but admiration for him that hes spent the summer doing extra work to try and improve as a player…thats great stuff….its all i expect…hard work and effort…anything else is a bonus….but i have to say if he doesnt crack it this year i dont think he’ll be with us the year after….

  164. rico says:

    Nite Irish ..

    Me too ave, its so busy here, it’s good πŸ˜‰

  165. JonJon says:

    everyone is talking to eachother..theres so much love in the room.. πŸ˜‰

    nite irish

  166. JonJon says:

    LMAO london….

  167. London says:


    Denilson is just over rated on the lefty channel and they don’t know anything about football.

    I agree with you on Diaby, my patience will only last one more season and it might not even last that long but I will give him a chance.

  168. rico says:

    Nighty nite all, early start for me…

    Stay safe – tomorrow, we will announce a new signing

    πŸ˜› πŸ˜› πŸ˜›

  169. JonJon says:

    night rico..

    make that 2… πŸ˜‰

  170. London says:


    What does this mean? he did well…he was the only regular in a midfield that managed to get to 4th…

  171. JonJon says:

    it was meant as a compliment london i suppose….

    hes about 12 years old it was is first real season with the big boys his midfield mates were dropping like flies around him, he played the most games and we still managed to finish 4th in the best league in the world….

    hes not good enough yet to play a starring role in a trophy winning side but hes a good enough back up who can do a job when required…..

  172. London says:

    Gotcha and I agree

  173. London says:


    I’m laughing at my own jokes, how sad is that, more wine I think.

  174. London says:

    See y’all tomorrow

  175. JonJon says:

    i laugh at my own jokes all the time london….i think its a sign of madness, hiding the genius within.. πŸ˜‰

  176. avenell says:

    The first sign of madness… is when you see Suggs walkiing up your garden path.. πŸ˜‰

  177. JonJon says:

    haha..were have you been???

  178. avenell says:

    Laptop agro…
    I just bought another one with windows 98′ that I cannot get to work my programe..
    The one I got fixed with 98′ and XP on doesn’t work the programe I want that one to… and the new laptop is useless apart from online shopping as Vista isn’t compatable with anything..
    My other desk top only works my old cutter and that leaves me with this desktop..

    Which has to do everything.. but it’s like spagetti junction in here now..

    Oh and just to make things worse my mate just gave me his laptop to fix for him…

  179. JonJon says: least you can see all of your screen… πŸ˜‰

  180. Rasputin says:

    Hi Roadsters … sorry to use the site for personal means but……. peaches, if you’re reading this phone me on my landline ASAP – I have a small emergency!!!!

    I don’t want to be the killjoy 2 nights running but I will run naked around the outside of the Emirates 50 times singing ave maria if we sign villa πŸ™„

  181. JonJon says:

    i’ll run with you rasp… πŸ˜‰

  182. London says:

    Morning Roadsters

    This Vermaelen height thing is getting a bit tedious.

    I thought I should prepare the counter.

    Fabio Cannavaro…..captain of the Italian world cup winning side….5’9″

    Jordi Puyol….captain of the Spanish European cup winning side and captain of last season’s Champions League winners……5’10”

    Thomas Vermaelen……ex captain of Ajax and soon to be winner of a Champions League medal 2009/2010…..5’11”

  183. Cartman says:

    at the moment, i’m not very positive about arsenal! so just to ask, am i welcome here?

  184. kelsey says:

    Cartman Morning,

    You are very welcome on here.We are not competing with any other site.We just chill out,talk about various things,not restricted to only talk about football.

    There are no fixed opinions on here about Arsenal,so we discuss amongst ourselves,and at the same time show respect for one another.

    It is run like a co operative with no one person having overall control.

    Morning London

  185. Cartman says:

    thnx kelsey!

  186. Cartman says:

    * and morning all!

  187. London says:

    Morning Cartman

    This is a channel where people can express concerns as well as acknowledge the good things that happen at the club we all love.

    So, why aren’t you feeling positive about things?

  188. kelsey says:

    I must tell you Cartman, that generally most on here are not early risers,but as london said,feel free to explain your concerns.

    One post above all others yesterday caught my eye.That was from peaches,who stated that Kroenke had obtained shares on an IOU basis, in other words he hasn’t payed for them as yet,the purpose being to stop Usmanov for getting the 30% control he needs to force a hostile takeover.

    Peaches has mentioned this before,and I asked her (as I am sure others like London etc)where she read this information,and she is researching it.

    If it is true,i believe that it breaks several laws,even though arsenal is a private company.

  189. Cartman says:

    sorry, was on lg!
    Why am i not feeling positive?
    Well tho its only preseason, i dont think the defence has improved! imo, we wud still concede on set pieces!
    then, there’s our dm problem! i dont rate denilsong! denilson is really average while song can improve but there’s the acn, and not to forget injury prone diaby, who is really inconsistent!

  190. Cartman says:

    to tell u the truth, i know nothing of finance, etc… (shud ask my dad for that) but if the shares are not his, then it sure is breaking the laws!

  191. Cartman says:

    I must tell you Cartman, that generally most on here are not early risers
    i’m only 19 and i’m sure i’m younger than most of u! shame on u err avenellers? πŸ˜€

  192. London says:


    Here is the trick, when it comes to the midfield stop focusing on Denilson, Song and Diaby, they are just back up, focus on Arshavin, Fabregas and Rosicky they are the real deal. And when it comes to having reinforced the defence, I point you to Thomas Vermaelen, the ex Ajax captain. There you go, don’t you feel better, it works for me.

  193. Cartman says:

    flamini, and zapata wud make me feel better! but Saturday 15 August 2009 will cheer me up πŸ˜‰
    cant wait for the season to begin!

  194. chas says:

    As far as Adebayor goes, I was wondering if we’ll still see those marvellous curving runs outside the player with the ball in the direction of the left wing leaving no-one in the middle when the cross comes in, now that he has joined Citeh. Let’s hope so.

  195. JonJon says:

    i give ade 18months before citeh get sick of him and sell him to notts county…

    morning everyone

  196. JonJon says:


    wasnt the shares being obtianed on an IOU an allegation originally made by von greenback??

    in which case i find it hard to believe… in any power struggle, names are always dragged through the mud….

  197. JonJon says:


    a flamini type player is whats stopping us from winning the title….

    we have the money so lets buy one i say….

  198. Cartman says:

    JonJon (Mr T πŸ˜€ )

    i think u already know that wenger wont buy! imo, come january he’ll assess the team based on performance and injuries, and if need be he’ll buy! @ least thats how i see it!

    i agree tho, a player like flamini wud make us win the league, besides it wud le cesc roam freely!

  199. London says:

    A quick recap: Fizman, via Dein, sells Kroenke 5% of the shares .

    The board suddenly realise that this could be a hostile takeover; they sack Dein as the instigator and condemn Kroenke (We do not need those types, Hill-Wood).

    Dein sells all his shares to Usmanov.

    The board realise that they have to take a side and do u-turn on Kroenke.

    Realising that Usmanov was the largest share holder, Fizman and Hill-Wood make shares available to Kroenke on a pay later arrangement, they did this to protect themselves.

    There is nothing untoward about this in the eyes of the board or Kroenke but understandably Baron Von Greenback or should we call him Doctor Rouble, is not very happy.

  200. kelsey says:

    I am a lot older than you Cartman, but when it comes to the clubs finances there are many theories,and none of us really know the truth.

    On paper we are making a profit even allowing for the repayments on the new stadium.Highbury Square is ring fenced and sales for the moment are slow,due to the recession and perhapstheir are other reasons that haven’t come to light.

    Maybe london is right,but one would think that he money Kroemke has together with his wife being part of the Walmark family,why does he have to pay on a pay later arrangement.

    To me,something doesn’t quite add up,does it really show a commitment by Kroenke towards the club or not.

    Anyway,most people don’t want to get involved in our finances,but I would say in the long term it most probably will be the more prudent direction,even if we have to wait a few more years for silverware.

  201. Rasputin says:

    Morning Roadsters,

    Welcome Cartman.

    I think the defence will be a lot stronger with TV he is aggressive and a born leader. He was shouting instructions to Gallas at Barnet!!!

    But I have to agree, it looks unlikely that we will buy any more players which is a mistake. Without new signings, we will need luck in the form of lack of injuries, the successful return of Tomas and Dudu and plenty of goals from midfield.

  202. kelsey says:

    Morning Rasputin,

    I think the key to this season,which may seem a tad obvious,is to keep all the players and hope Eduardo and Rosicky can at least contribute 20 + games each,and we may see more of a rotation system,and without the lone striker upfront,a return of the way the invinsibles play.

    Most probably I am totally wrong and either Senderos,Toure or gallas may still leave and we will buy a striker and a CD or CM.

  203. Cartman says:

    ahh that’s roadsters!
    so i’m a gooner, grover and now a roadster!

    kelsey, the problem if we wait a few more years for trophies is that we might lose our best players! do u really see cesc, rvp staying at the club if we win nothing?

    Rasputin-i agree with vermy being a leader and agressive! imo, he’s a gallas mould player! but i still think we’ll concede through set pieces and long balls!

  204. avenell says:

    Morning Roadsters..

    Hi Cartman, how you doing mate?

    and morning Chas ..

  205. Rasputin says:

    Hi kelsey,

    We’ve talked this one to death. I think most of us agree that we’d like to see new signings and if there is only to be one, we would prefer a battling midfielder.

    AW said he wanted to get the new players in early and he has achieved his goal of shoring up the defence – I think he will only buy another player if the deal is good and ge believes them to be significantly better than what we have.

  206. Rasputin says:

    You’re right Cartman, the lack of height at the back is more likely to be exposed from set pieces. For the Stoke game last season AW picked all the tallest players (and played half of them out of position!!) and we still conceded from 2 long throws despite having all week to train and discuss ways of dealing with that threat.

    TV attacks the ball fearlessly and will help. Personally, I’d like to see Almunia be more commanding when he comes for the ball. There has often been a lack of calling/communication at the back and TV will improve that aspect too.

  207. Cartman says:

    i’m fine dude!

  208. avenell says:

    Morning Rasp/Kelsey..

    I thought we were a Public Limited Co…. Arsenal Holdings PLC..

  209. Cartman says:

    cant we make almunia a bit nuts? πŸ˜€

  210. Rasputin says:


    I wasn’t going to even bother to mention Ade’s accusation that the fans drove him out ….. we all new he would open his stupid mouth like his equally unintelligent exile mate Cashley.

    I would be interested to see if sites that claimed the fans criticism would drive him out are still supportive of him now he’s gone. What makes people think that highly paid footballers have such fragile egos that criticism will destroy them. If that were true in general, most of our politicians would be hanging from the rafters….

  211. Rasputin says:

    Morning ave,

    How did the spuds manage to wangle themselves into this Wembley cup tournament? … I hope Barca tear them apart for having the audacity to think they could sign PV. They have no fit centrebacks so with any luck they’ll get a footballing lesson.

  212. avenell says:

    Barca wanted an easy pre season..

    Apparently they have Huddlestone .. he could just lay on the 6 yard line. πŸ™‚

  213. Rasputin says:

    He’s built like a brick outhouse (have to curb my language, there are youngsters present πŸ™‚ ) but slow in movement and thinking – perfect for totnum πŸ˜‰

  214. kelsey says:

    19% of all goals we conceded came from outside the box.

    We caught more opponents offside than any other team.

    33% of goals we conceded came from set pieces.

    RVP was joint top in assists (with Lampard)

    So looking at these facts it shows where our vunerabilites are yet we play the offside rule very well.

    i wrote this yesterday from the Opta stats and tells a lot about last season.

  215. avenell says:

    Have the Spuds produced many youngsters?.. I can only think of Sol.. I guess he was there as a kid..

  216. JonJon says:

    and ledley king

    they didnt realy develop hundredstone they bought him from derby

  217. avenell says:

    That is an embarressment, compared to West Hams and ours..

  218. London says:


    A bit more information as to why Kroenke did not pay for his shares when they were offered to him.

    You may have read recently that there was a suggestion by Usmanov as to how the club could raise 100 mil.

    The current board considered and rejected that proposal just the other day.

    The key players on the board who made that decision were Kroenke, Fizman and to a lesser extent Hill-Wood.

    Can you imagine if one of those was not a larger share holder than Usmanov? How could they be deemed to have the credibility to reject the major shareholders proposal?

    Fizman and Hill-Wood anticipated this situation and having decided to champion Kroenke they ensured that he was given enough shares to make him the largest share holder.

    But imagine this Kelsey, if I had a house that you always wanted and you knew that I wasn’t going to sell it to anyone else and then one day I told you that you could have it at the going rate, I would bet that you would say: thank you London, I will take it but I will pay you when it is convenient to me.

    The only way for Fizman and Hill-Wood to continue having the credibility at the club they have enjoyed for so long was to ensure that Kroenke was made a larger share holder than Usmanov.

  219. avenell says:

    Some questions then..

    Are the shares his for good?

    Who “sold” him the shares.. (they must be on the board or high up)?

    If he cannot afford the shares, is Kroenke the man to take us forwards if we are to go down the Chelsea route, as we seem to have picked a poor billionaire?

  220. Irishgunner says:

    Afternoon all,

    Interesting stuff on Kroenke and his shares. What London says sounds credible to be honest.

    I feel bad now about Adebayor and complaining that a striker on Β£80k should run about it and put in such much effort, I’m so, so, so sorry you lazy git!! He’s a disgrace.

  221. Irishgunner says:

    Kroenke is loaded Avenell isn’t he?

    His missus (well her and her family) owns Walmart, Oprah like Walmart so Walmart is huge in America, he has $$$$$$$$$$$$

  222. Irishgunner says: reckon he has $1.8 billion

  223. London says:


    The shares were sold to Kroenke by Fizman principally. Where on earth did this idea of Kroenke cannot afford them has come from?

    This was the example I used for Kelsey

    But imagine this Kelsey, if I had a house that you always wanted and you knew that I wasn’t going to sell it to anyone else and then one day I told you that you could have it at the going rate, I would bet that you would say: thank you London, I will take it but I will pay you when it is convenient to me.

    Arsenal as you say is a PLC all this information has been made public and has been reported in the press.

  224. avenell says:

    The idea came from what Irish said.. he is supposed to be loaded.. So why not just pay for them? It is a relatively small amount compared to his assets..

    I mean he probably had Β£10 million down the back of his sofa..

    Hi Irish..

  225. Irishgunner says:

    Hi Avenell,

    Yep that’s what confused me too.

    Did I pick London up right in thinking that Kroneke is been coy, he knows Hill-Wood and Fizsman want him and not Usmanov but because of the way they treated him originally he is making them sweat and testing them?

  226. avenell says:

    I think what London is saying.. Fizmann said.. “have a load of shares Mr Kroenke, pay me whenever, That will make you Mr Biggest, then we can overrule Usmanov easier with more credability”

    Sorry if thats wrong London..

  227. Irishgunner says:

    But is Kroenke saying “You want me as the biggest shareholder, which is fine, but you didn’t want “my sort” not so long ago, so I’ll take your shares and pay you when I damn well like”?

  228. Irishgunner says:

    I.E Kroenke has the board right where he wants them.

  229. avenell says:

    I know what you mean, and that is possible, I am just unsure if that is what London is saying..

  230. Irishgunner says:

    I’m not too sure either and I don’t want to put words into London’s mouth.

    Either way its all to keep Usmanov in his place.

  231. avenell says:

    What I would like to see is Kroneke taking Lady Nina’s families shares.. Taking over Arsenal then selling them back once the Russian is gone..

    25% Kroneke, 25% Fizzman, 20% Nina, 30% fans and other smaller holders..

  232. avenell says:

    0% Usmanov.. πŸ™‚

  233. London says:


    That is exactly what I was trying to say.

  234. avenell says:


    Is that right Gerrard has got out of jail?

  235. London says:


    I had the idea that Kroenke owned 28% and you pointed out the significance of owning 30%

  236. London says:

    Hello Irish

    But it does also smack of what you were suggesting. If someone refered to me as “that sort” and then needed my help I would make them bloody wait.

  237. kelsey says:

    To be fair,

    peaches brought this up,and she is not on at the moment to give us the link to this affair.

    SG gets off.6 against 1,and they call it self defence ? Money speaks all languages.

    when can i have a viewing πŸ˜‰

  238. avenell says:

    Both Usmanov and Kroenke are creeping up to the magic 30%.. they would have to make an offer..

    But I am unsure of the percentage when they can do an aggressive takeover..

  239. London says:


    You are going to love it, seas views the lot πŸ˜‰

    And in the tradition of Blue Peter here is one I wrote earlier.

  240. London says:

    Oops wrong one

  241. kelsey says:

    30% ave,

    then they can force a takeover bid.

    Sea or canal, london.

    Actually,I know it may be the way forward but I wouldn’t like to see the club go to overseas investers aas much as I don’t like the stadium being called The Emirates,but that’s just my opinion.i think we sold the rights too cheaply.

  242. Irishgunner says:

    I bought the book “Arsenal: The Making of a Modern Day Superclub” about 6 months ago, haven’t read it and now I fear its hugely out of date.

  243. avenell says:

    Haha I started the Perry Groves book nearly 2 years ago.. I only reached chapter 2.. I’m not very good at reading anymore..

  244. Irishgunner says:

    I’m half-way through the Wenger one by Rivoire, I’ve been half way through for about 3 months ha ha

  245. avenell says:

    I used to work back up near London once or twice a year..
    i used to take a caravan and stay on site, which was a good excuse to read.. But at home there are too many distractions, sky, Blog, landmowing.. which reminds me.. 😦

  246. avenell says:

    That’s London the place.. Not the argumentative blogger on here.. πŸ˜‰

  247. Irishgunner says:

    I stayed in a caravan once in my life, I was about 5 and we went on holiday, my mother who was pregnant and 5 kids in a poky caravan …. and it rained for the week.

    It was like a scene from Fr.Ted

  248. avenell says:

    This is a classic too.. Last year we managed a few days off, bought a tent, cooker, all the gear etc..

    We thought right we will go to Swanage for a few days.. apart from the fact that it has gone downhill from years ago.
    It rained, it was too windy to put the tent up, so it ripped a few loops that hold the pegs..

    On the second night the wind changed direction and the water pissed in and the air mattresses were like ponds where we was lying.

    To top it off some bloke either got stabbed or tried to kill himself so we had 5 police cars and Paramedics keeping us up until 3 in the morning with woo woo’s, search lights etc.. also we didn’t know if there was a nutter about with a knife..

    So we came home.. which was nice..

  249. Irishgunner says:


    Holiday nightmares, ha ha

  250. kelsey says:

    he American businessman, 61, has progressively upped his stake in Arsenal. In March he increased his holding to 20.5 per cent after acquiring 4,839 shares from fellow director Danny Fiszman.

    And in May, Kroenke bought the shares of RCL Carr, Clive Carr and Lady Sarah Phipps-Bagge, for between Β£8,500 and Β£10,500 a share, increasing his stake further in the club to 28.3 per cent.

    this is from the daily telegraph on 10thjuly this year. it says bought.

  251. Irishgunner says:

    Arsenal Holdings plc (the “Company”) has received notification that on 1st May 2009 KSE, UK, Inc. (β€œKSE”), a company controlled by Stan Kroenke, a Director of the Company, acquired 4,839 ordinary shares of Β£1.00 each in the Company from members of the Carr family, including Richard Carr, a Director of Arsenal Football Club plc. The shares were acquired at prices of Β£8,500 per share and Β£10,500 per share.

    As a result of the acquisition, Stan Kroenke has a beneficial interest in, and controls voting rights over 17,613 ordinary shares in the Company, representing 28.3% of the Company’s issued ordinary shares.

  252. Irishgunner says:

    Fiorentina have almost sewn up a deal with Arsenal for Emmanuel EbouΓ©, the Ivory Coast international right-back.

    According to Il Corriere dello Sport, the two clubs have agreed an initial fee of between €9m and €10m for the 26-year-old.

  253. Rasputin says:

    That’s good news about Eboue – I think its good for him and good for us, there should be no hard feelings and I personally would wish him well (but be relieved I don’t ever have to see him play in the midfield for us again)

    That’s about Β£7m to add to Ade’s money = Β£32m, plus maybe Β£5m for Big Phil …. we’re rich πŸ™‚ πŸ™‚

  254. terry says:

    hi Irish that book Arsenal the making of a superclub is a great read,lots of history about the club and is pretty up to date with the way the club is been run today. That is very good money for Eboue Arsenal should grab it!

  255. avenell says:

    Hi Terry… Welcome to Avenell Road mate.. your free to blog now..

  256. rico says:

    Evening Everyone, room for a little un πŸ˜‰

  257. avenell says:

    Where you been.. Cartman wanted someone to talk to early this morning?

  258. Irishgunner says:

    Hi Terry – Cheers I’ll give it a read soon.

    Evening Rasp, Kelsey and Avenell.

    If Eboue does go I hope he does well, he’s not a bad sort just needs to think a bit more often.

  259. avenell says:

    I’m running out of players who I dislike now..

    He’s a nice enough bloke, but not fit to wear an Arsenal shirt..

  260. Irishgunner says:

    Evening Rico

  261. avenell says:

    Hello again Irish.. Hows your work search going?

  262. Irishgunner says:

    AW is talking about the recession hitting football again, is that him putting away the Β£25mil?

  263. terry says:

    A bit harsh ave ,but hope he does well and good luck to him

  264. Irishgunner says:

    My search for employment Avenell?

  265. avenell says:

    I cannot see the recession hitting football full on.. There are a lot of long term contracts that will keep it going. Shirt deals, TV, etc.. By the time they run out the economy should have picked up..

    Yeah I know Terry, My mind wondered back to the Spud game and his diving and praying when he got booked antics.. sorry..
    He has got a bit better since.

  266. avenell says:

    That’s it Irish.. your career search.. Is Ireland really that bad at the moment?

  267. rico says:

    Had to go out visiting today Ave, My dear ma wanted to feed me up lunchtime πŸ˜‰

    Hi Irish – so Ebooe could be off then, personally I think that is best for him, we have other players who can be back up to Bac – maybe Arsene is rounding up a few more pennies to get Hunteellleelelelaaaarrr

    Grimandi said the other day that the club need to sell another player before we buy so just maybe ??

  268. avenell says:

    Grimandi got misquoted.. I think I read somewhere..

    Another Anglo/english cock up..

  269. kelsey says:

    hi terry.

    terry might be a lady. the same mistake happened with me when i first blogged.

    so irish and i have more or less independently posted the same thing about kroenke buying the shars.i just can’t believe he got them on an IOU.

    evening rico.
    late lunch, marinated salmon with kus kus.

    Eboue,is that another who wants to leave because a section of the crowd booed him. I used to dislike him,because he was a cheat(even the free kick we got in the CL Final,was a dive0 but his allround play has improved and he gets into great attacking positions but just can’t hit the ball cleanly(where have i heard that before.)

    If he is off,and Senderos is obviously not wanted,what about Toure and Gallas.

    We don’t want a diminished squad going into the season,with serious fitness doubts about a few players,do we.

  270. Irishgunner says:

    Ireland is messed up big time. Going to get worse before it gets better so I’m off to Australia in October to work and travel around as long as the money lasts.

    Thinking of going via Hong Kong (3-4 day stopover). Has any been there? Is it safe?

  271. Irishgunner says:

    Djourou played RB against Barnet didn’t he? And Kolo can play there.

  272. avenell says:

    We still have Hoyte too don’t we?.. He must be old enough to be assessed and Coq u Vin cannot be far off first team..

    I don’t know how you keep your head together Irish.. No work must be hard..

  273. terry says:

    hi Kelsey man and fan since GG era

  274. kelsey says:

    i believe ireland is being hit as hard as us over here,now they are talking about 2104 before things return to normal,whatever that is.

    Australia and USA, irish have the worst unemployment in the world at the moment,so think carefully.

    I don’t agree with you ave about recession not hitting football.You have to take away the big clubs in the big cities.i wager more clubs will go to the wall than ever before in the next 2 seasons.

    Someone who we all know said why he should spend 5K a year for two season tickets if we can’t win anymore.To me that is not an arguement,and i assure you there are tens of thousands who still want a season ticket at the Emirates.One can’t demand success just because one might feel that one pays a premium for the pleasure of watching ones club,as much as a footballer who costs x amount is no guarantee of success.

    By the way,poor old reyes,had a year on loan at benfica and now is literally on the dole and looking downwards if he continues with playing football.

  275. rico says:

    Hi kelsey – no salmon, toad in the hole with quorn sausages, new pots and veg, then a wicked chocolate pudding, a Chris Evans recipe – can you believe that πŸ™„

    Irish, Djourou also played there against Reading when they were in the prem, he did really well

  276. kelsey says:

    who is GG, never heard of him πŸ˜‰ in house joke.

  277. Irishgunner says:

    Avenell – Only for the internet I’d have gone mad by now. I’m doing a 5 week course in Sept before I go away so at least that’s something to do.

    Kelsey – I know a good lot of people in Australia and they all have work. I’ll be looking to be working on the farms harvesting fruit and that, just want to have enough money to stay above board over there – to break even.

  278. avenell says:

    Kelsey.. I said it will not be a direct hit as there are long term deals on.. I agree the tickets and shirt sales etc are going to take a dent..

    It’s teams like Newcastle who have over 7 players on 3 million plus a year who are going to get it.. πŸ™‚

  279. Rasputin says:

    Hey kelsey,

    I’m happy for EE to go and have a good career elsewhere. I couldn’t stand his diving or the fact that he went down like he’d been hit by a sniper, but he was/is very popular with the other players and I don’t think he’ll badmouth us like that tosser Ade. He did have something in common with Ade – AW would keep playing him even though he had a string of poor performances (admittedly in midfield) He is still a very good right back though.

  280. avenell says:

    Are you going on your own Irish, and you thinking of a permanent move or just a few years life experience?

  281. avenell says:

    The new Spud bowl, up the road has gone a bit πŸ™‚

  282. Irishgunner says:

    Three of us going Avenell – just going for the experience and to do something because I’m starting to go an ickle, bit mad having no job.

    If it doesn’t work out, as long as I’ve money for a flight home I’ll be grand. I’ll be just back where I am now but have visited some of the world.

  283. peachesgooner says:

    Hi guys

    Heres the article that says that Kroenke has got Β£90m shares and not paid for them

  284. avenell says:

    Good luck to you Irish.. why not? I suppose it’s hard saving up too.. 😦

    What about Avenell Road.. I’ll be lonely?.. 😦

  285. Irishgunner says:

    I live in rural Ireland Avenell and can’t drive so I’ve nothing to spend my money on.

    ” What about Avenell Road.. I’ll be lonely?..” – They have the internet in Australia πŸ˜†

    I’m trying to work an Arsenal game into our trip, not going down too well 😦

  286. Irishgunner says:

    Evening Peaches.

    It seems a bit odd, did he buy them on credit? Maybe they got a voucher for Walmart? πŸ˜‰

  287. avenell says:

    πŸ™‚ yipee..

    are you going to change your name to AussieGooner for a bit?
    Irish in Oz. that sounds cool…

    As long as there are no aussies in irish.. πŸ˜‰

  288. terry says:

    stand your ground Irish with the Arsenal trip,

  289. Rasputin says:

    I think the Kroenke ‘bias’ was just because he was seen as the lesser of the two evils and the board realised that sooner or later, someone would be able to amass enough shares to make a takeover bid. The fact that DD was associated with Usamov also made Kroenke the favourite which is ironic when you think that DD was the first to accept that at some point we will be acquired by a large shareholder.

  290. Rasputin says:

    I asked the question the other day “does Ivan G work for us or Kroenke?” – I know we pay his wages but he was (maybe is?) Kroenke’s man…..

  291. Irishgunner says:

    πŸ˜† Avenell

    Irishgunnerdownunder sounds wrong, doesn’t it πŸ˜‰

    Terry – I’m trying to, in fairness I was over three times last season so can’t complain. We have to fly to London anyway so if we could be in London early and then leave late at night of a Saturday when Arsenal play at home it would be perfection. I’d leave them at the airport with the bags πŸ˜€

  292. Irishgunner says:

    Rasp – Was it not DD that tried to get Kroenke in, in the first place?

  293. avenell says:

    Haha… I’m going to have another couple of hours grass cutting .. catch up later..

  294. Rasputin says:

    That’s news to me Irish, but it would not surprise me….. I thought he was great for Arsenal but couldn’t understand why he’d choose a dubious slob like Usamov to associate with. If Kroenke was his first choice, he must be furious that the board has now embraced him. I still think he is Arsenal through and through and will one day play a part in the club again.

  295. kelsey says:

    evening peaches,

    just read the article,but it is only an article and I am yet to be convinced that kroenke hasn’t paid for the shares.If it is true,why hasn’t it been slashed about all over the red tops.

    Ave, all this grass you keep cutting,seems a bit suspicious.

  296. Rasputin says:

    Ave – Ivan’s wiki page is pure spin – I wouldn’t be surprised if he didn’t write it himself….. I’m thinking of writing one about you myself…. listing your achievements in the world of blogging πŸ™‚

  297. Irishgunner says:

    Rasp – I’m nearly fully certain that it was Kroenke who Dein tried to bring on board but Arsenal were having none of it. There was the whole falling out, Dein left, sold his shares to Usmanov, Kroenke buys shares, Usmanov dumps Dein to try and get in with the board. That’s where we are now.

    Thats the story as I know it but am very much willing to be corrected.

  298. Rasputin says:

    Kelsey – he’s smoking it ……

  299. kelsey says:

    that’s what i meant.

  300. rico says:

    I hate the thought of us being another Russian owned football club, but sometimes……

  301. kelsey says:

    another thing as I am pro DD. he did muck up with the idea of playing our games at wembley in the CL, but i am not entirely sure whose decision it was,but he was opposed to the building at the grove and had opted for a much cheaper construction site of the same capacity at Kings cross,but was outvoted.

  302. Irishgunner says:

    Okey Dokey I’ve a party to go to.

    Talk to y’all soon.

    Have a good evening πŸ™‚

  303. Rasputin says:

    Yes, I trudged to Wembley for several CL games and never saw us put in a good performance – mind you, Arsene did spot Oneleg and sign him and totnum got Rebrov hahahahaha

  304. rico says:

    Have a fab time Irish πŸ˜›

  305. Irishgunner says:

    Will do Rico thanks – Its the afters of my cousin’s wedding so it could be a long one. πŸ™‚

  306. Rasputin says:

    Have a good evening Irish πŸ˜›

  307. Rasputin says:

    I was supposed to go out and have a good time, but my kids have put paid to that and its Daddycabs standby for me 😦

  308. JonJon says:

    hi guys…

    you know something…ive been reading through the comments over the last few days and its made me proud to have ‘met’ you all….

    arsenal means the world to me and blogging with you lot had opened so many more doors and taught me so much more about arsenal…things i would never have realised and things i never understood all seem to click into place…

    you learn something new every day about this great club just by being on here with you guys and reading your thoughts and opinions and its been a pleasure blogging with you all….

    i know its off the point and i know its totally random but its how i feel….

    long may it continue….

    group hug moment over…..

    onto serious matters…how much we gettin for eboue??? this is great…who would have thought that by selling two players we have actually strengthened the squad more than buying two…

    wengers a genius.. πŸ˜‰

  309. terry says:

    good luck with that Rasp. who has more money,the yank or the rusky. I think I would prefer the yank if it`s going to happen

  310. Rasputin says:

    Hi terry, I agree. Stan is a ‘sport man’. I don’t know exactly what Usamov is but these Russian oligarchs seem to have made their money through dubious means.

    JonJon – you brought a tear to my eye πŸ™„

  311. JonJon says:

    good evening terry….

    i think von greenback has more money….but stan has a background in sports business so id take him over the fat greasy one any day of the week….

    i guess we dont know eithers intentions…well, we do, they both want control of the club….but we can only work with the evidence weve got and so far i’d say that stan wants to maintain the self sufficient route whereas the toad wants to act as sugar daddy and use the club as a play thing and play with his gangster mate red rom…..before he sells us off piece by piece to make a massive profit…

  312. terry says:

    off out for a pint latter guy`s

  313. JonJon says:

    in the not so distant future arsenal will be the richest club in the world…

    and a self suficient one at that…we’ll be worth an absolute bomb and anyone who owns the club will be in an advantageou position….

    its easy to see why we are wanted…

    in stans favour he seems to appreciate that and he wants to maintian that…whereas the slimey one seems to be only interested in the short term…selling us off at the end of it all and destroying everything weve worked for in the process….

    i have not sat by to watch our club go through the heartbreak of everything thats happened to us on the pitch…knowing that it will lead to good things in the future, to end up with it all destroyed if the ugly one has his way…

    its possible he will do exactley the same thing the glasiers did with the mancs…..

    i dont want it…we dont need it..we dont need him….

    he can shove his money, his good faith and his rights issue where the sun doesnt shine…..

  314. JonJon says:

    dont blame ya terry….

    is it just me and you rasp???

  315. avenell says:

    Here lies Avenell .. 19?? -20??.

    Blogger – Grasscutter- Gooner..

    I can see it

    JJ.. you creep.. πŸ™‚

  316. kelsey says:

    cheque is in the post jonjon πŸ˜‰

  317. Rasputin says:

    No JonJon – there appears to be four of us sados sitting in on a Friday night 😦

  318. London says:

    Rasp I am surprised that there is any doubt in your mind that Gazidis is absolutely Kroenke’s man.

    I have just read that Tines article and it confirms my point that it was the board giving Kroenke the shares that would take him to owner of 28% and thus make him the largest share holder. He will have to pay for them but in his own time.

    And Kelsey, the reason why it has not been splashed across the red tops is because there is no story, just because he hasn’t paid for them yet doesn’t mean that he can’t. I refer you to the example I gave you of the house.

    And Irish it was DD who introduced Kroenke to the board. It all went pear shaped because rightly or wrongly they thought that DD was going to mount a take over behind their backs…..a little bit silly really; if he had put his cards on the table they would probably have agreed to sell and he would be doing what Gazidis is doing today.

  319. Rasputin says:

    Don’t be surprised London … I’m not very good at the financial side of things – I leave that to you, ave and kelsey. I am interested in what went wrong with DD’s thinking. I’m always very impressed with him when I hear him being interviewed, both before and after his split from the club

  320. London says:

    I think of DD as a sub on the bench, ready to come on if needed

  321. London says:

    And as there are rumours of Eboue leaving I thought I would point you to this

  322. kelsey says:;_ylt=AoH4VKMmGKEtBZnEWxkZijQXRJ54?slug=ap-goldcup-costarica-mexico&prov=ap&type=lgns

    so vela scores the winning penalty to take mexico to the final. therefore he isn’t injured.

  323. peachesgooner says:


  324. Rasputin says:

    Evening Peaches,

    I wonder who’s gonna make up the magnificent 7? πŸ˜•

  325. peachesgooner says:

    I’ve managed to scrape the mud off my delicate bronzed body and having weilded a mathook for a couple of hours and dug up a couple of square metres of turf today I need some tlc – I am girl afterall 😦

  326. peachesgooner says:

    Hi rasp

  327. JonJon says:

    im back guys…had a few connection problems….

    i was watching a bit of the barca game and i heard the commentator say they lack a cutting edge and i thought of avenell… πŸ˜‰

  328. Rasputin says:

    Don’t you mean cutting hedge JonJon πŸ™‚

    I’m just cooking some food peaches – super hot chili, would some of that count as TLC?

  329. peachesgooner says:

    It would be a start rasp….. thanks πŸ™‚

  330. JonJon says:

    cutting hedge… πŸ™‚

  331. peachesgooner says:

    I was thinking more along the lines of…..poor you, you worked really hard today, let me pour a glass of something delicious for you to sip while I massage your aching feet…….you know the deal guys……

  332. JonJon says:

    open question…

    if eboue goes how would you view it???? i.e. what do you think the reasoning behind selling two players like eboue and ade in the same window could be…???

  333. JonJon says:

    sorry peaches didnt mean to change the topic…

    as it goes i love feet….i’ll massage mrs jonjons even if she has a hard day or not….

  334. Rasputin says:

    Ah JonJon, you’ve laid a trap for us…. you want someone to say that they actually listen to the fans and care what they think and so they’ve got shot of the two most unpopular players.

    Obviously not the case πŸ˜• They were both dispensable and more importantly someone offered us decent money for them πŸ˜›

  335. JonJon says:

    haha rasputin…

    thats a good why of viewing it…but i dont reckon its because of that….

    i reckon your 2nd paragraph is closer….

  336. Rasputin says:

    Very brave of you to own up to a foot fetish JonJon

    Peaches – let me see if I’ve got this right……

    “Poor you, you’ve worked really hard, let me pour myself a glass of something delicious while you massage my feet”

  337. avenell says:

    Your a creep and a pervert Jonjon.. πŸ˜‰

    That’s my mowing done for a few days.. I’m knackered.. luckily I had a good flow of Stella.. πŸ™‚

  338. peachesgooner says:

    Wenger was never gonna sell Ade cos the fans were on his back – likewise Eboue…..

    Agree with your 2nd paragraph rasp……

    Shall I edit your last comment for you so it reads properly or would you like to do it yourself πŸ™„

    Thats what i need……someone to stroke my feet

  339. rico says:

    This kind of news really naffs me off – why are we not getting a midfielder of this kind of quality ???

    pffff – catch you all tomorrow, stay safe all..

  340. JonJon says:

    heres my take on the potential ade/eboue double departure….

    wenger has two players, both in their mid twenties….one looks like hes already past his peak and one looks like he’ll never reach it…

    both have been problem players regarding mental attitude and relationship with the fans and both are easily replaced with the amount of potential we have coming through the ranks…

    add to the fact he will lose these two players anyway for the ACN which will disrupt the team even more and add to the fact that both are taking up a large chunk of the wage bill for their services……

    nobody at the club under wenger has been seen as indispensable….hes proved in the past if he gets the right offer he will sell no matter who the player is…

    if the right bid came in he will accept…given the fact that neither of these two have proved to be winners in a potentially winning team…

    if wenger sells he’s killing 5 birds in one stone…earning the club millions and strengthen the club if anything in the process….

  341. JonJon says:

    hi rico..night rico πŸ˜‰

  342. rico says:

    Sunderland boss Steve Bruce has confirmed the Β£5million signing of midfielder Lorik Cana from Marseille on a four-year deal.

    oops, forgot to paste what naffs me off !!

    Hi Jonjon, night Jonjon πŸ˜‰ πŸ˜‰

  343. Rasputin says:

    Nite nite rico…..

  344. peachesgooner says:

    What!!!!!!! Whats wrong with us……why is Cana going to Sunderland????????????????????????????????

  345. avenell says:

    Not talking to me again Rico.. okay I see.. got your favourites.. πŸ˜‰

  346. JonJon says:

    i never rated him rico….so im not too bothered…

    i suppose we can now see what all the fuss was about now hes in the PL but i dont think we are going to rue not signing him…

    if it was veloso or flamini id be well pissed…

  347. avenell says:

    Peaches.. Not just us why doesn’t any decent team want him?


  348. Rasputin says:

    That’s just S**t – if AW didn’t like Cana because he wasn’t his type of wengerball player – why the hell did he sign Ade?

  349. rico says:

    Ave – stop attention seeking πŸ˜‰

  350. peachesgooner says:

    Hi rico…. nite rico πŸ˜‰

    Hi ave – good point except we’re looking for a bit of a monster in mid-field and Cana fits that bill……

  351. JonJon says:

    i havent been keeping up today with the news and ive just found out gerrard got off without even so much as a slapped wrist…

    trail for affray??? it was assualt in the first place…….

    not guilty because he acted in self defence????

    self defence his when you hit someone back in an act of defending yourself against an agressor..this was a 2 versus 1 attack with the 2 throwing the only punches and gerrard being in the 2…

    how the fuck was it self defence…


    lucky git…

  352. rico says:

    Guys and Gals – its not about the player, its about the kind of player, we desperately need a player LIKE him, and we dont have one – BUT is Cana better than – Denilson, Song, Diaby, Ramsey, Eboue, and every other player who gets shoved in the middle alongside Cesc ???

    My guess is yes he is, and that is what really naffs me off !! :mrevil:

  353. avenell says:

    Only on You Tube.. when I saw him play for Marseille he was average.. and he was played at CH.. would we have played Vieira at CH?

    He will go to Sunderland and be forgotten, like we all wanted Kompany last year… who?

  354. rico says:

    JonJon – no way would a jury in dipper land find a fellow dipper guilty, but what really smacks in the face of justice is that the all the other chaps got found guilty of their offences – its all corrupt, trust me….!!

  355. JonJon says:

    i watched cana a few times last season after all the hype about him last summer…i actually seen that you tube clip of him last summer and i wanted him too…

    but as you do when theres nothing else on and setanta was in its prime i watched abit of french footy not to mention when marseilles played the dippers in the CL and i can safely say cana was shit….

    hes aggressive but so what….if we want agression lets go sign nicky butt or joey barton….

  356. avenell says:

    Or Stevie G.. he’s aggresive..

    Nikki “head” Butt as he is known..

  357. rico says:

    Def off now, nighty night

  358. avenell says:

    Nite Rico..x..

    I await your reply…..

  359. Rasputin says:

    The Stevie G case is just like OJ getting off – celebrity unbalances the scales of justice. He claimed he thought the other guy was going to hit him so he punched his lights out … yeah right.. πŸ™„

  360. rico says:

    I replied earlier ave……

    1001hrs πŸ™‚

  361. avenell says:

    Haha Rico.. I knew you couldn’t resist.. πŸ˜‰ nite..

  362. rico says:

    I love you too ave, you little tinker πŸ˜‰ πŸ˜‰ πŸ˜›

  363. avenell says:

    They couldn’t bang Gerrard up, it would ruin the scouse economy..

    No Range Rover sales, No CL medals down the pub.. No Coca Cola..

  364. avenell says:

    Whoops that’s Mrs Gerrard the last one.. πŸ˜‰

  365. JonJon says:

    gerrard mate got punished??? but gerrard got off…???

    JonJons public enemy list for the season ahead

    1. cashley
    2. ade
    3 stevie (i helped my mates beat up some bloke by hitting him 20 times, but it was self defence honest) gerrard…

    what sort of example is that to set the young aspiring footballers????

    gerrard is exactley whats wrong with the english national team and until they sort it out international football is off my calander for the rest off my life…

  366. raif says:

    is a fucking C*nt i cant stand him..

    the only reason he got let off was Bcos the jury were all liverpool fans.

    if he did this in London he would have been bangd up,

  367. raif says:

    G*rrard***** is a…..

  368. Rasputin says:

    I liked your music London……

    Hi raif, dey do do dat in Liverpool don’t dey…. I’m surprised his mates didn’t say “calm down, calm down” πŸ™‚

  369. raif says:

    HAHAHAHA… your right Rasp

  370. JonJon says:

    hey raif…

    sightings of Le Hunter have been reported from spain to germany…

    rumors are rife hes making his way to england but it wont be to the spuds because they cant even afford crouch.. πŸ˜‰

  371. raif says:

    Lets Hope he makes his way out of the wilderness and find him self safe in the house of Emirates πŸ˜‰

  372. JonJon says:

    arry reckons paddy wants to join spuds…

    hahaha… arry, arry, arry…

    the mind games dont work mate…maybe we should sign one of their legends to piss them off…i wonder who though cos they are all shit…

    and ades been opening his gob again saying kolo should join him at citeh….

    i know we are a classy club but i think its about time wenger grew some balls and started using the media the same way the others do to us….

  373. raif says:

    i think Toure should join them. as i think Gallas is a better CD. then go get Hengeland.

    Foget boying any ex spurs players. like what you said. they are ALL SHITE

  374. JonJon says:

    gallas contract is up though next year so we might be better off keeping kolo and swapping sen dare ross for the hanglider instead…

    gallas and kolo aint that bad…its the backup that let us down….

    and i think a CB foursome of kolo gallas hanglider and TV would be enough this year…then gallas leaves next year and JD takes his place….

    but i dont think we’ll get another CB raif…

    weve already got…


    someone may leave but i doubt anyone will come in…

    the midfield is where wengers looking i feel…

  375. JonJon says:

    GAEL CLICHY blasted former team-mate Emmanuel Adebayor, saying: You only left us for the money.
    Adebayor claimed abusive Arsenal fans forced him into a Β£25million move to Manchester City.

    But Clichy reckons the switch was all about the hitman almost doubling his pay packet to Β£150,000 a week.

    He said: “I really believe if you are a player who thinks only about money then you could end up at Manchester City.

    “You have to think if you want to play for a big club and have your image or if you want to play for a good club and earn big money.

    “When you ask someone to move for something like Β£300,000 a week it is just crazy.”

    Defender Clichy also scoffed at Adebayor’s warning that City are set to nick Arsenal’s Champions League spot.

    Eastlands boss Mark Hughes has spent Β£80m this summer in a bid to gatecrash the Big Four.

    Clichy declared: “I’ve been here six years and this is not the first summer where a club have spent big money to get big players.

    “But it does not always mean a team will do well.

    “Sometimes when you have players coming in like this it can take six to seven months for them to adjust.”

    Well said gael…..i wonder what all the ade lovers think to that little statement….

    stop it gael you naughty naughty man…leave ade alone…why dont you just go harrass some goats gael…

  376. Cartman says:


    really brillant gael πŸ˜‰ !

  377. JonJon says:

    morning cartman…

    your up early…do you live in a different timezone or something?????

    mmmmmkay!! πŸ™‚

  378. kelsey says:

    Morning Lads,

    I believe I read you live in Mauritius Cartman,is that correct.What a beautiful place.

    Well said Gael, and now Ade is alleged to urge kolo to join him at City.

  379. Cartman says:

    yep kelsey, if u ever come here, do tell me πŸ™‚ !

  380. JonJon says:

    ive always wanted to go to cousin went last year and she said it was one of the most nicest places shes ever been….

    kelsey…i wonder what all the fans that love ade still and think he was forced out think of that little statement from a man who played with him for years????

  381. Cartman says:

    * tho i’ll be in lyon in 2 weeks!

  382. Cartman says:

    JonJon, i wake up at 6 these days! have to regain my stamina!

  383. rico says:

    Good morning everyone, good to see the sunshine…

    So Eboue could be off and Ade has opened his big fat trap again and said Citeh should buy Kolo, I hope he gets a pre-season injury now and the other forwards at Citeh settle in and he is left on the bench…

    And, Arry is going to get Paddy – how can Paddy do that to us 😦

  384. London says:

    Cana, Cana, Cana, Cana, Cana, Cana, Cana, Cana, Cana, Cana, Cana, Cana, Cana,Cana, Cana, Cana, Cana, Cana, Cana, Cana, Cana, Cana, Cana, Cana, Cana, Cana, Cana, Cana, Cana, Cana, Cana, Cana, Cana, Cana, Cana, Cana,

    Do you know what that is?

    That, for all those who are capable of thinking for themselves, is the sound of bleeting sheep.

  385. Cartman says:

    i think it wud be stupid to let eboue go! he’s a decent backup at RB and i dont trust hoyte!
    besides our defence will be decimated next year with gallas and toure free to leave! wenger shud buy at least 1 cb before the world cup!

  386. rico says:

    I thought that was the first line of the chorus to a Culture Club song London, just missing the Chameleon…

    ok, it wasn’t funny πŸ˜‰

    Cartman, I agree Eboue is a good RB, but Arsene insists on playing him in other positions and he lets himself down, Coquelin can play there, Djourou can, so I reckon take the money, add it to the kitty and spend it!

    I have to go shopping, be back in a little while

  387. London says:

    Morning Cartman

    By this time next year I would expect Djourou and Vermaelen to have staked their claim as the main central defensive pairing. If they don’t live up to that billing, Wenger has the whole of this season to make the necessary arrangments.

  388. kelsey says:

    Morning Rico and eldest went to your islands,Cartman for his honeymonn,but he went in july which i believe is not the best time.

    I was rather positive a week ago, but surely we can’t let Eboue and Toure go and send dare ros is up in the air.

  389. peachesgooner says:

    Morning all

    rico – that was funny πŸ™‚

    Who will Arsene use as his scapegoat if Eboue goes too?

  390. JonJon says:

    hi guys…sorry but theres a new post!! πŸ˜‰

  391. Cartman says:

    Morning London,


    kelsey, the best months are in november-february but normally the hotels are full then!

  392. peachesgooner says:

    I love Gael Clichy – he should give Seminars to footballers on how to behave towards the club that pays you and the supporters that love you……..

  393. Rasputin says:

    Morning Roadsters…….

    CAN’T CAN’T CAN’T CAN’T CAN’T CAN’T CAN’T CAN’T CAN’T – would be more appropriate

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