Look What You Could Have Won!!

I’ll start of with a quick review of Saturdays game.

That should have been the title decider between the two teams, it was more like a Charity Shield friendly.. (well a cup in the Dippers eyes) .. Man U just needed a draw and sure enough they got what they wanted without turning up the heat.. If the shoe was on the other foot and we needed a draw at the Emirates they would have been wound like they had been on Red Bull and Sherbet Dip Dabs all day.. They knocked us out of the Champions League and called us ‘babies’ so we went at them with the full range of sideways passing..  Apart from Fabregas’s studs that dug into Evra’s knee we showed no real fight and if we had of scored you can bet we would have got the feeling of  Deja Vu.

That is the difference between us and them, we don’t want to win bad enough, we just think if we keep tippy tapping about we will always score. We need players who can change a game and force the issue.. Like the AK47 man, but he was slightly subdued, he was still recovering form his bout of flu I guess.

Their was a couple of good things that came out of the game, but it is difficult to tell how good in  surreal match conditions,  but Song looked superb he brought his calmness that he has picked up with his confidence from his midfield role and took it back one row. This could mean either Mr Wenger OBE preferred him over Silvestre because he See’s him as a CB and will be buying a new Midfield player.. or Silvestre is on his bike so it’s win,win, win!!

The other good thing is Gibbsy looked top notch and has his confidence back in full swing.

Denilson looked good at times but I did notice Ryan Giggs run past him to gather a a pass and shoot over the bar.. Call me old fashioned but a defensive midfielder should track back and not let a 35 year old run past him.

When I saw the line ups I thought that Arsene has actually got the system right to play Man U.. apart from RvP is not really suited as a loan striker.. Then 20 minutes from the end.. the subs.. Nasri and Arsh off .. Bendy and Theo on.. any normal manager would put the 6’4″ bloke in the middle and get the winger to feed him.. Oh no.. The striker is the right winger, the right winger is the left winger and the love child Diaby stays on.. What goes on in his head ????

Other good news is Adebayor has a minor groin strain.. or a I talk too much on the BBC and you are for sale chap injury .. please!!

The Daily Mail says that Wenger is off because they take what they choose out of a sentence to make up a quote from him, perhaps there is also a little retribution after the Arsenal fans treated Arsene like a murderer.

What I will say is I don’t want Arsene to go, but tell the fans and the players what is going on in your head.. You want our full support but we only have yours until your contract runs out..  It’s a two way thing Arsene!!

Arsene also says that the team learned a lot from watching Man U lift the Premiership again, That’s debatable what.. I’m sure Kroenke and Usmanov learned a bit too..


82 Responses to Look What You Could Have Won!!

  1. chaf says:

    Good morning.

    Exactly – no one else learned from watching them lift the PL. We already knew…

  2. London says:

    Morning all

    Good post Ave, I was getting worried there.

  3. Big Raddy says:


    Can’t say I agree with your post Avenell. Sorry !

    Firstly, I thought we put in a decent shift at OT. Had we been hammered I could understand, but we controlled the game. As to the proposal that SAF went out for the draw… ?? No way.

    AW said last year that Song was a CB. I hope he doesn’t think he has found the solution to our problems. Though a possibility would be for Song to play much deeper than he normally does, in front of the 2 CB’s.

    As London said, the Real stories are just fantasy. Spin, spin spin.

    Ade: To AC? Inter? Juve? Real? Who cares…

    Good to see Traore score last night, but where does he fit into AW’s plans? Another loan next season I think.

    Would you keep Cesc as Captain next season, or has the influence of captaincy declined? AW likes to have leaders all over the pitch, but it seems to me that he hasn’t got a single “Leader”. AA perhaps, WG is too emotional, but does lead by example.

    Maybe we can sign Stevie G ?

  4. JonJon says:

    manure never got out of 1st gear….if they did we’d of been in trouble…

    and i dont want to upset anyone but i think wengers off….

    i honestly think that wenger will retire in 2011 and he wants to win the CL….

    he aint going to do it with this team….if perez takes over real he wants to create the new galacticos and wenger will get millions

    so..he either wastes the next two years on a team where hes losing touch with the fans and he has to rebuild and he only has 13mil

    or he spends the next 2 years at the biggest club in the world with 150mil to spend and goes all out to get the one trophy he wants before he retires…

    this summer could be the one where he actually does go

    morning all

  5. rico01 says:

    Morning all – i dont want Arsene to go either, as said before by many, just want the old Arsene back.

    If Saturday’s game had been any other day to play them in the league, i think we would have all been happy with a 0-0, and to be fair, at this stage of the season I would rather they got the result they needed to win the league – i would have not liked the dippers to have snuck in had we beaten Manure, and they deserve the title, well done them…

    At least they play football that is good to watch.

    I dont think the boss is off, i think its old news, mixed with a comment made to another stupid question fired at Arsene, then all twisted and written as only the paps know how – every season it happens, and right now the club is showing signs of a little stability behind the scenes, and now he may just get the funds and players he wants. We should soon be on the rise again, and for me there is no better manager out there to do it…

  6. rico01 says:

    Off for a couple of hours, ttfn

  7. London says:

    I thought Cesc was back to his best against the mancs; he looked more like a leader than he…well….ever has. I loved the rotational kicking of Evra. This instruction must have come from the top which gives me the hope that someone wants to change the perception of the team’s image to one of being tougher. We have had that in the past with Vieira and Petit: a reputation that was not achieved by accident; someone knew what he was doing and I believe that kicking Evra was the first sign that he wants a return to a tougher more determined reputation for the team.

  8. avenell says:

    Morning Roadsters..

    I’m not sure about this Wenger thing. Hill wood has come out and defended Arsene..On Talk Sport this morning the bloke from Arsenal Insider phoned in and said that Arsene’s contract is up in the summer and the 2011 bit are just extensions..I don’t know if that is true.
    If Arsene wanted to go they would tear up his contract anyway for all he has done for the football club.

  9. JonJon says:

    ive heard that too ave….

    ive heard the last two years of his contract are add ons…

    if he wants to leave…we have no right to complain…he owes this club nothing…

  10. London says:

    Arsene Wenger speculation is a joke, says Manuel Almunia

    Arsenal goalkeeper reveals that the club’s players consider all the transfer stories as something to be laughed off.


  11. JonJon says:

    well the board either gives wenger more money or wenger sorts this squad with the money hes supposed to be getting cos ppl like almunia will be laughing on the other side of their face when a new manager comes in and replaces him with another goalie

  12. rico01 says:

    Morning Roadsters – 🙂

  13. London says:

    Morning Rico

    Even I am too young for this but it is a superb exlanation of what the former great George Eastham meant to the club. Worth a read.


  14. rico01 says:

    Hi London – like you i am far to young, even to recognise the name, but i will take a peep 😉

  15. avenell says:

    Morning Roadsters..
    All the papers etc got in a flap over another non story as usual.. Will we ever learn?.. lol

  16. rico01 says:

    Hey Ave, that was a lot of sleep you had 😉

    How are you doing, long time no see, speak etc 😦

  17. avenell says:

    Hi rico.. Not a lot to talk about until the transfer window opens and we get linked to anyone that walks..

  18. rico01 says:

    We are linked to Barry again this morning 😦

    We dont want him – do we ??

  19. avenell says:

    He is too old for Arsene I would think.. Unless he is going for win or bust in the next 2 years..

  20. rico01 says:

    I think he is too old, and overated too 🙂

  21. avenell says:

    He isn’t my favourite player, but he looks good for england because he does the basics that Gerrard and lampard cannot do (the simple pass) and he done a job on our midfield at the emirates..
    So he would be an improvement on what we have..
    We just need a faster Song.. “breakaway” by Tracy Ullman was quite quiick.. 😉

  22. rico01 says:

    Ha Ha Ave – wonder what she is doing now

  23. rico01 says:

    And ave – I would look good for England 😉

    Gerrard and Lumpard never play well for their country 😦

  24. avenell says:

    She went to america and married some producer the last I heard of her..

  25. raif says:

    i dont want Barry. id rather have somone else..

  26. raif says:

    by the way hello everyone 🙂

  27. raif says:

    Till Next time people

  28. rico01 says:

    Hey raif – how you doing, come back real soon 😦

  29. London says:

    The win or bust idea is interesting, I certainly expect the club to change its transfer policy this summer but to what I am not sure. I feel fairly sure that we are not about to become a club that spends 30 mil on a single player, more’s the pity; so, my guess would be that the club will pick up where it left off when it actually had a transfer policy which, by my estimation, was when we brought Sagna and Eduardo. If the club brings in players of this calibre I will not be unhappy.

    Hello raif

  30. avenell says:

    Hi Raif nice to hear from you mate..

    Hi london… I guess win or bust was the wrong term.. More like think of today and not worry about tomorrow so much policy..
    It may never come.. 😦

  31. London says:

    Hi Ave

    Yeah, I knew what you meant, it made sense to me. The board must be worried about Wenger by now; they must have realised that they have got to either free him up or he is going to leave in 2011 and they know that they will never find anyone who cares about the club’s financial health more than he does. Win or bust.

  32. chaf says:

    Good afternoon

    Whats all the shit about only 13 million availabubble.

    Does one think;

    a) It’s true
    b) Arsenal are trying to say don’t rip us off or quote us big
    c) They are preparing us for a ‘decent-player’ free summer signing again
    d) Or its untrue, and they’re putting people off the scent… I hope

    We could probably afford about 60% of Tevez. We’ll have the legs and the brain, Spuds can have the face and the arms, and the tackle and arse can go to Sheffield United.

    I don’t believe that figure. We’ll get 3 up and coming players (but could be Vieira, Pires and Edu)

    Confused of Hertfordshire….

  33. avenell says:

    Hi Chaf..
    The £13 million came from a whisper in a daily mail reporters ear from a certain source after the Q and A the other night apparently..
    I think he will have a bit of clear out anyway in the summer to make a few more pence for the kitty..

  34. London says:

    I am going to copy and paste this comment from Wenger all summer.

    “Where do I buy or who, that is difficult to speak about because if you come out with that you pay double price. We are rich, but we are not rich enough to do that. However, we will buy.”

    I think what he is trying to say is “D”

  35. rico01 says:

    Woop woop – hellooooooooooooo 😛

    If he sells the players we think he should, that could give us between 30-45M

    Add that to the supposed 13M = A lot 😉

  36. JonJon says:

    evening all…

    so wengers said he wants to stay…thats very admirable and loyal…but he needs help….13mil aint enough…

    manure will strengthen whether they lose ronaldo or not…chelsea will get a new manager and red rom is bound to hand them a hefty kitty….and liverpool are rumoured to be after tevez…even though they are supposed to be in the shit…how can liverpool have more money than us?????

    it does my head in…

    wenger wants two more years….so he needs to go for it…he needs money its that simple…if we only have 13mil then we dont stand a chance next year either…i hope its just a smoke screen….

  37. rico01 says:

    Hi JJ, where have you been, you have been missed.. 😦

    Well by someone I am sure 😉 😉 🙂

    13M is just pap crap I am sure, its the Daily Mail again and I dont believe a word they print about us

    Now, The Dialy Star……. 🙂

  38. rico01 says:

    Dialy = Daily 😳

  39. JonJon says:

    i been busy at work today rico…..

    of corse im missed im me… 😉

  40. rico01 says:

    Tee hee JJ, you are always missed … 😉

  41. JonJon says:

    dito rico 😉

    are you looking forward to the transfer window rico????

    im quite anxious if im honest…what will make me happy is if we go at it from the 1st day…and we have everything sorted in the 1st week….a few players out and a few quality players in and we can sit back and relax and concentrate on the new season without going into the last minutes of the window nervous that the team isnt strong enough like last year….

  42. rico01 says:

    JJ – I cant wait, I honestly think we are in for a few very nice surprises 😛

    Quick action is need Arsene, all done and dusted by the 1st July 🙂

  43. rico01 says:

    Off to get my beauty sleep all, could be gone a long time 😦

    Nighty night 😉

  44. JonJon says:

    im watching the uefa final and its been abit drab….bremen really miss diego…he would be a good player for us…

  45. JonJon says:

    hahaha…night night rico…

  46. avenell says:

    Did the Spuds make the final?..lol

  47. JonJon says:

    i wonder how much money they’ll have to spend in summer??? i bet its more than us…

    i wonder if they get downing for 20mil??? lol

  48. avenell says:

    It’s weird isn’t it no matter what a team spends they always seem to get the same type of players..
    the Spuds get all the Arsenal wanabee’s, Newcastle get all the asbo’s and pay over the odds for players that are past it etc..

  49. chaf says:

    Good morning

    This is interesting, I’m sure everyone’s seen it but….

  50. Big Raddy says:


    That is an interesting article. I am surprised that such an important step for the EPL should see the light of day in a Bangkok paper. Why has it been ignored in the UK press?

    Is this not a contravention of EU Employment Law? Hope not as I think it is a fine proposal.

  51. Big Raddy says:


    That was a very amusing post at 10.30

  52. avenell says:

    Morning Chaf and Raddy!!

    I’m just going to have a look around newsnow and “I’ll be back”

  53. JonJon says:

    afternoon everyone…the rumours are now rife that wenger will have 50mil to spend….honestly who comes up with these things….

    50mil would be nice but i think wenger can fix this team with 30…..

    chaf that and interesting piece….i remember talk of such a ruling a while ago but didnt expect it to come as early as 10-11….

    if its true we definately hold all the cards….a few signings wont affect us though 😉

    the chavs are fucked 😉

  54. JonJon says:

    i made a comment just then wheres it gone??

  55. JonJon says:


  56. avenell says:

    I binned it.. don’t you ever talk to me like that again!!!

  57. JonJon says:

    there they are…i couldnt see them earlier…howdy ave…sorry 😉

  58. avenell says:

    They have been on there all the time as far as I could tell.. What’s happening?

  59. JonJon says:

    oi oi wrighty…

    i dunno what happened ave i was trying to comment when i was at work and it wouldnt show up. . 😦

  60. JonJon says:

    im watching ATV when we beat everton at home in the 98 PL winning season

    the bit was just on where Keown had a go at duncan ferguson….Keeeeown…theres only one keeeown.. 😉

    oh they where the days….

  61. avenell says:

    I just watched some of it.. they were missing some tangent passing from Denilson .. we created too many chances and not enough possesion.. lol

  62. London says:

    there’s only one Keown.

  63. avenell says:

    If you are reading oi oi Wrighty..

  64. avenell says:

    The long lost london! 😉

  65. London says:

    It’s alive

  66. London says:

    I can’t get into this war chest speculation….seems a bit of a waste of time to me.

  67. avenell says:

    If Wenger wants a player badly we just borrow the money.. Figures are just a load of bollox from the press..

  68. London says:

    I was just looking for the kick off time on Sunday when I noticed on the official site that Cesc was wearing a blue shirt which I suppose makes it official and the team we support will be wearing it next season. Come on you blues, yeah, that sits well with me!

  69. London says:


    One word…yep

  70. London says:

    What I was trying to say through a wine induced haze was that I agree; the figures are bollocks.

  71. London says:


    I have a spare, free ticket for Sunday if you want it.

  72. avenell says:

    Did you see the new shirt video? What blue shirts have to do with a pub on the isle of dogs or wherever I don’t know.. lol..

    No Ade in the launch fingers crossed.. 🙂


  73. avenell says:

    Mannone could be in goal sunday 😦

  74. London says:

    I think it is obvious why Adebayor isn’t in the blue shirt video: being an Arsenal man through and through, he refused to wear that insult of a mock chav shirt.

  75. avenell says:

    I was told they only had mediums and Ade needed a XXL to get his head through.. 🙂

  76. avenell says:

    And his shorts needed a money belt sewn in before he would wear them.

  77. chaf says:

    Evening peeps

    London – I’m in Brighton this weekend, both me and Benwell are away. I think Stork is having it…

  78. chaf says:

    Adebayor is having the weekend off as well, so he’ll be in the starting eleven.

  79. JonJon says:

    evening chaps…

    just got back from the pub…im allowed back in now 😉 and read through the comments…been giggling at the adebayor ones…

    i know we should support anyone in an arsenal shirt..but even when he plays i just cant stand him…

    i know negativity doesnt help…but i cant help help it….

    i hated bendtner and i have done for 2 seasons bit that boy has won me over and i dont care if he cant shoot….he runs his socks of and that does it for me… ades just a wanker….

    not only is he shit but bendtner has shown him what it means to wear an arsenal shirt… critism or not….and in all fairness ade brought it on himself and it was up to him to win the fans over….

    he should take a leaf out of nikkis books and in a way eboues too because since he got booed he’s pulled his sox up too…

  80. avenell says:

    “Shall I write a new post for you?!” lol..
    NEW POST…..

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